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Lyneham Lad
7th Oct 2005, 13:20
From the latest MOD Oracle newletter:-

US president George Bush has said that he was instructed by God to invade Iraq and Afghanistan, according to a new BBC series.

The claim comes from the first meeting between the US leader, the Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas (also known as Abu Mazen), and his then foreign minister in June 2003.

The ministers say that Bush also revealed to them that he had been told by God to create a Palestinian state.

Former Palestinian foreign minister Nabil Shaath, now the information minister, describes the meeting with the US leader, in the BBC2 programme, Elusive Peace: Israel and the Arabs. He says: "President Bush said to all of us: 'I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, 'George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan'.

"And I did, and then God would tell me, 'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq...' And I did.

"'And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, 'Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East.' And by God I'm gonna do it."

Abbas, who was also at the meeting in the Egyptian resort of Sharm al-Sheikh, recounts how the President told him: "I have a moral and religious obligation. So I will get you a Palestinian state."

Be scared.....be very very scared. :(

Talking Radalt
7th Oct 2005, 14:25
Bet he's genuinely looking forward to a visit from Santa in a few weeks as well. :rolleyes:

ComJam
7th Oct 2005, 14:30
Very scary bloke....

DSAT Man
7th Oct 2005, 14:53
Didn't Peter Sutcliffe hear voices from God?

oojamaflip
7th Oct 2005, 14:56
It makes it rather awkward to launch a war on Islamic fundamentalist terrorism when you can't honestly say that you are doing so from a secular and unbiased starting point.

Despite what I see on the TV, all of the Americans I've ever met have been intelligent and kind-hearted people - if sometimes a little naive about other people's cultures. It has always amazed me that George W. Bush could ever be elected, let alone twice. A man of less than than average intelligence and exceedingly poorly travelled when elected, a good example of his religiously skewed politics was the administration's naming of the war on terrorism 'Operation Righteous Crusade' - not exactly guaranteed to ensure the support of many Islamic nations. That name fortunately didn't last long. He seems incapable of understanding that whilst the American way is perfectly fine, not everyone signs up to it.

I find myself embarassed that the leader of the free world is 'hearing voices'. What would he do if God told him that all non-believers must be punished?

The only comfort is that the US constitution fortunately limits Bush to two terms and will effectively allow the voters to be protected from themselves. The next person in the hotseat has a lot of work to do to restore American credibility, especially in the middle East.

SilsoeSid
7th Oct 2005, 15:23
I wonder how Tony Bliar feels about this revelation.

Aah yes, the book of Revelations.

'There will be wars and famines and disease epidemics and heavenly signs that will alert the world to some sort of crisis. Then will come an Antichrist as he's called, or a political ruler, that will establish control over the whole earth. He'll be backed up with a religious ruler, who's called the false prophet. They together establish a unified social, economic and religious system that dominates the world.

The only thing opposing them are the people of God and these two prophets, they're called the two witnesses, who appear in Jerusalem, and begin to speak against this power.

The beast, the false prophet, who has the number 666, the Antichrist, is overthrown with judgments and plagues. Most of them are very cosmic. Asteroids hitting the earth. The water turning to blood and that sort of thing, until finally, Jesus Christ returns as a warrior on a white horse and sets up the kingdom of God. ... '

If you add up the name 'George Bush' in Hebrew letters it comes out:

G = 3 (gimel)
e = 5 (heh)
o = 70 (ayin)
r = 200 (resh)
g = 3 (gimel)
e = 5 (heh)
B = 2 (beth)
u = 70 (ayin)
s = 300 (shin)
h = 8 (cheth)

total = 666 (Antichrist)


:ugh:
SS

http://www.bushisantichrist.com/

7th Oct 2005, 15:47
Quiet day at the office Sid?

JessTheDog
7th Oct 2005, 15:52
What about the W?

Maude Charlee
7th Oct 2005, 16:42
I thought the 'mission from God' was to put the band back together. :}

SilsoeSid
7th Oct 2005, 16:47
Why doesn't his Dad, who started it all (same name, same numbers, seems like the anti-christ needs 2 goes!) take him to one side and say the good old parent saying;

"And if God told you to jump off a cliff, would you have done that aswell?"

:ok:
SS

Jess, if the 'W' was included, you would only say that it was there to make up the numbers!!! :rolleyes:

crab, I don't know the answer to that one at this moment, but I can find out for you! ;)

Maude, wasn't it to keep the orphanage running? :confused:

soddim
7th Oct 2005, 17:05
Maybe he believes God told him to do it but Allah is telling him to f off.

Fg Off Max Stout
7th Oct 2005, 18:10
Isn't one of the founding principles of the US constitution the separation of Church and State. Someone better tell Dubya that his governance is supposed to be secular.

Elvis told me to write this.

The Rocket
7th Oct 2005, 19:20
Uh huh huh

;)

scpc
7th Oct 2005, 19:38
So the terrorists crashed into the twin towers in the name of god, GWB invaded Iraq in the name of god, the insurgents are retaliating in the name of god..... Am I missing something here!!!!


Homer Simpson for President

BEagle
7th Oct 2005, 19:45
Just had an e-mail from god(yesitreallyisme,yousinner)@heaven.net:

"Hi BEags. Please remind that total ar$e Dubya that I told him if he took my name in vain just one more time, then it'll be downstairs to the mate with the horns, pointy tail and toasting fork when he finally turns his toes up!"

OK, big G. Shall pass it on. You still doing that water into wine thing, mate?

The Rocket
7th Oct 2005, 19:55
How blasphemous Beags.

Really:eek:

I'd have expected better from a gentleman such as yourself:rolleyes:

;)

soddim
7th Oct 2005, 20:50
At least Bush listens to God - Bliar thinks he is God.

NotTheOrganGrinder
7th Oct 2005, 21:10
Kill one person and claim God told me to do it - Broadmoor
Kill many thousands, claim God told me to do it - Re-elected.

Surprised Tony B hasn't done that

Oh wait.....

ORAC
7th Oct 2005, 21:33
Amazing those willing to believe the word of a Palestinian politician - 2 years after the event. Anyone find it surprising he wouldn't have said anything at the time, considering his opposition to the invasion? or the chance of Bush saying anything like that after the furore over the use of the word crusade and the sensitivity over religion?

Still, any opportunity to have a go at Bush.......

Talking Radalt
7th Oct 2005, 22:36
A Dog once told me I wasn't dyslexic. :)

Two's in
8th Oct 2005, 00:23
It's not God you should be worried about, but the other voices in W's head - Rove, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Haliburton, Exxon, ad nauseum...

Jackonicko
8th Oct 2005, 01:15
“Amazing those willing to believe the word of a Palestinian politician - 2 years after the event.”

While the word Palestinian is enough for some folk to assume that the person being discussed is an untrustworthy rogue, and a violently anti-Western trouble maker, we are talking about Mahmoud Abbas. He is widely regarded as having been a moderating influence in the PLO and in the Palestinian Authority, with a genuine fondness towards the West and a sincere commitment towards achieving peace. He is recognised as a major architect of the 1993 Oslo peace accords, who travelled with Arafat to the White House to sign the accords. He has met Bush on a number of occasions and is supposed to have a reasonable relationship with the Pres. We're not talking about Arafat, for goodness sake!

And Bush's words have an awful ring of truth…. so unless you believe that all Arabs are liars........

West Coast
8th Oct 2005, 05:02
Well, Jacko I hope you feel sufficiently foolish for adding credibility to the story now that both Shaath and Abbas have said it isn't true. I didn't expect much from the lambs here that are easily led, I guess I shouldn't expect more from a jouro either.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4320586.stm

soddim
8th Oct 2005, 09:16
That's more than a bit unfair, West Coast, the article linked does not contradict the allegation headlined in this thread. In fact, according to the BBC article, Mahmoud Abbas said

"President Bush said that God guided him in what he should do, and this guidance led him to go to Afghanistan to rid it of terrorism after 9/11 and led him to Iraq to fight tyranny," he said.

The article also reports Mr Shaath as saying that GWB said

"God would tell me, George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan. And I did, and then God would tell me, George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq... And I did.

I think I understand English - Jacko is innocent!

Thud_and_Blunder
8th Oct 2005, 10:05
:ok:

Thanks all! It's exchanges like this that help make Ramadan whizz by.

SilsoeSid
8th Oct 2005, 11:06
This whole episode has been taken out of context.
It follows a discussion between the Bush administration and Eurovision.

After being told that it would be pushing it a bit to allow the Americas to participate in the Eurovision Song Contest, the Palestinian official was heard to say;

"Listen to Gold by Abba, (http://www.danceage.com/listen/396-ABBA-586-Gold--3A-Greatest-Hits.php)and you'll see how far away your music is from Eurovision."

Besides, I've heard it said that if you play ABBAs records backwards, they take on a completely different meaning.

I think George needs to listen to this. (http://www.abbasite.com/playlist/play_video.php?file=09.wmv&bw=high)

BEagle
8th Oct 2005, 12:05
"Abba? Where them folks from?"
"Sweden, Mr President"
"OK - ya got me there. Which state is that?"
"Europe, Mr President."
"Europe? Hell, ain't never hearda that. Guess it must be in Canadia?"
"No, Mr President. Further than that. It's the other side of the Atlantic"
"Goshdarn it, they must be brave folks. Ain't that close ta thu' edga thu' World? No wonder they sang about an SAS. Guess they need thu' helpa good ol' Uncle Sam? Gemme some Marines....."

West Coast
8th Oct 2005, 21:05
You know Mr President, the place that keeps starting those world wars.
Hmmm...
Mr. President, the place that has genocide in its own backyard.
Hmmm...
C'mon George, the place that is led by France in a drive towards socialism.
Ooh, that one.

BEagle
8th Oct 2005, 21:17
"OK - guess ya' mean Noo Orleans? Ah heard about that place - aint't that in Canadia as well?"
"No, Mr President"
"An' whaddya mean about World Wars?"
"The first one we came in 3 years late, the second one 2 years late, Mr President"
"Well, ah made up f'that! Ah dun bin' startin' ma own war in that place...Irachnia..., err, Iranistralia? Or was it someplace else? Hell, we whupped 'em any way, ah guess? You know, the place with the GMCs...err, FBIs...err, BLTs..err, WWFs...?"
"WMDs, Mr President?"
"Huh? Who they?"

West Coast
8th Oct 2005, 21:33
"Mr President, its time to recognize Chirac as the King of U rope, they whooped that Brit ass to earn it, plus that's where that airbus plane is made, plus the concord thingey"

SPIT
8th Oct 2005, 22:18
Most people who claim they acting on instructions from GOD are QUITE MAD and are LOCKED AWAY????:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Always_broken_in_wilts
8th Oct 2005, 22:31
How unusual to see old Westy embroiled in a trans Atlantic slanging match:rolleyes: But defending his Cdr in Chief....now I know he's lost it:p

all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced

Onan the Clumsy
9th Oct 2005, 05:05
If you add up the name 'George Bush' in Hebrew letters it comes out:

G = 3 (gimel)
e = 5 (heh)
o = 70 (ayin)
r = 200 (resh)
g = 3 (gimel)
e = 5 (heh)
B = 2 (beth)
u = 70 (ayin)
s = 300 (shin)
h = 8 (cheth)

total = 666 (Antichrist)


I thought that was R-o-n-a-l-d W-i-l-s-o-n R-e-a-g-a-n




the place that has genocide in its own backyard Well at least we're living on our own land, allbeit a little reorganised from time to time. At least it's not someone else's wot we nicked.

You know Mr President, the place that keeps starting those world wars. Let's hope we're not at the beginning of another one that makes the earlier ones look like ammature night at The Paladium.


at least we have proper wars against proper enemies

West Coast
9th Oct 2005, 06:39
Lighten up Francis.

BEagle
9th Oct 2005, 07:01
"So who's this Sh-eye-raq dude then? He ain't Thuh King; wha' I was only talkin' to tha King the other night when I was lisnin' ta God.. Asked him if we was doin' okay whuppin' they sand nig..."
"What'd he say, Mr President"
"He just said "Uh huh huh...." "
"Is there a new plan for Iraq, Mr President"
"Irachnia? The place with the Eye-oh-telstar?"
"Err, no, Mr President. You know, sand, oil, Sunnis, Shias, Saddam f***in' Hussein... W've got all those guys over there watching 'em..."
"Goshdarn it - we got guys watching the Sonny and Cher show? Is that still on TV. Hey, I remember that...."They say our love won't pay the rent. For it's learned our money's all bin' spent".... An' tha' King said he dug 'em. 'an all."
"Suh, yes suh, Mr President!"

PICKS135
9th Oct 2005, 14:28
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