Air Officer Dress Standards

[Stan Bydike]

I just happened to be on an open top tour bus in Central London last Thursday.

I was absolutely amazed to see an Air Cdre, in shirt sleeves uniform, with briefcase etc striding down Piccadilly. What annoyed me was that a hat was nowhere to be seen.

Sounds trivial, and joe public wouldn't ever notice. However, people get bollocked for even going from their car to a sqn hq without headdress so why can't an Air Cdre maintain standards in full public view.

[LuckyBreak]

bothered.......

[BEagle]

Well, hold the front page......

:rolleyes:

[Gainesy]

...maybe he was going to buy a hat?

[Fg Off Bloggs]

Stan,

3 fairly PPRuNe predictable and immediate responses above but may I commend you for your attempt to maintain standards. There should be no excuse for anyone wearing uniform out of doors without a hat and rank does not draw any differential. Just a warning, however, I nearly dropped myself in the cack recently when I thought I espied a guy wearing KD (inc. shorts) whilst romping in the UK. He turned out to be from an antipodean air force and felt comfier in his tropicals in our August heatwave! He looked a complete jessie, however!

[Pontius Navigator]

Gainsey

Please see PM.

Maybe the AC thought he was on a flight line and worried about the FOD hazard. Or thought he looked inconspicuous sans headgear?

[Max Contingency]

All right point taken. I will wear my hat next time.





;)

[tablet_eraser]

Spot on, Stan... dress regs apply equally to everyone who wears Her Maj's light blue uniform, regardless of rank. I'm sure there was some mitigating circumstance, but an Air Cdre should know better.

It's easier in the Army, of course... given their massive variety of uniforms he could have claimed he was in dress 14L...

:=

[Blacksheep]

Was he a REAL Air Commodore? I was once surprised to find myself behind a scruffy looking Air Vice Marshal in the NAAFI wagon queue, but it turned out he was an extra from a film crew.

[Flobadob]

Just maybe he was the same chap who lost his briefcase with all the Gulf War 1 secrets in many moons ago. His memory still continues to fail him, hence the lack of hat.

Surprised he has not been promoted higher:hmm:

[reynoldsno1]

Didn't realise tranvestism had reached beyond the Wing Commander level....

[PPRuNeUser0172]

Can we please have a forum for people with petty axes to grind, far, far away from the military AIRCREW forum.

I know we could call it the "Blunty Forum", that way they could discuss what floats their boats and likewise with us. ;)

[The Rocket]

So what do you suggest goes in the MILITARY aircrew forum?

A forum for the professionals who fly the non-civilian hardware, and the backroom boys and girls without whom nothing would leave the ground. Army, Navy and Airforces of the World, all equally welcome here

Nothing about any side of the "Blunty" Airforce?

Would Stan Bydyke be banned from posting whatever you disagreed with? Even though he is "military AIRCREW"?

With an attitude like that, your new improved Mil Aircrew forum sounds like it would be a great idea:yuk:

[Always_broken_in_wilts]

I'm right behind DS on this one, blunty - ponti - remf whatever your handle s@d off elsewhere and leave this forum for those it was intended for:E

all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced

[Impiger]

Flobadob

I think the chap you are refering to subsequently left the Service and has since died of cancer.

[average pilot]

Shame, he was a great Sqn Boss, that's if your talking about the officer who took the wrap for the missing case but who was rumoured to have been a scapegoat for a more senior officer,

[Pontius Navigator]

Sucking the hind tit again I expect.

[The Rocket]

Think carefully about the consequences of that ABIW,



Wot no Allan907 to wind up:p :p

[Always_broken_in_wilts]

Damn, it's that baldrick humour of mine, just cant seem to grow out of it:p .......still at least I now what teamwork is all about!!

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[Trumpet_trousers]

I think the chap you are refering to subsequently left the Service and has since died of cancer

Shame, he was a great Sqn Boss, that's if your talking about the officer who took the wrap for the missing case but who was rumoured to have been a scapegoat for a more senior officer,

Impiger: Correct on one count (leaving the Service,) but I don't think DF would be pleased to learn of his (allegedly) early demise!!

AP:

Concur, and have also heard that version of events from other sources too!!

[The Rocket]

ABIW,

In that case, you should be very proud.

:p :p :p

[buoy15]

Come on chaps and chapesses

Surely a senior officer is allowed to have senior moments, such as forgetting the hat or losing a briefcase.

Working in Main Building is stress-full (so I'm told) but without the sand

Gainsey

Did you notice a brevet? - could have been a Nav looking for Main Building and lost his bearings after leaving home without his Buss Pass (and hat) !

Cadbury's Dairy Milk is Very Tasty

Love many, Trust a Few, Always paddle your own canoe

[Gainesy]

[QUOTE]Gainsey

Did you notice a brevet?

T'wernt me that spotted said chap.

(BTW, when was wearing uniform in public sanctioned? Thought it was verboten since the 1970s, IRA etc?)

[JessTheDog]

Should have b@llocked him! The top of a tour bus is surely a safe enough location from which to shout "YOU! WHERE's YOUR HAT!" and the chances of recrimination are few, assuming you are serving. :D

The only problem is that the story would be too good not to tell and word would invariably get back to the bare-headed one.

[BEagle]

Shouting a command in a firm military manner often provides amusing results....

A chum of my late father was a Happy Hunter Hero of the 1950s, now passed away. One fine day he and a chum attended another chum's wedding in London. Feeling playful, after the wedding they had a few sherbets, then swayed amiably down to Horse Guards Parade to watch the changing of the guard. As the "Dismount!" order was given, they waited until the troopers were half in and half out of the saddle before bellowing "AS YOU WERE!". Much cursing, dropping of swords and falling out of stirrups followed, much to the utter consternation of the guard commander (or whatever the pwoper cavalwy term is) - wherupon the giggling duo legged it back to the RAF Club sharpish!

[Always_broken_in_wilts]

Rocket,

Subtlety is lost on us mere mortals:rolleyes:

all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced

[southside]

when was wearing uniform in public sanctioned? Thought it was verboten since the 1970s, IRA etc?)


Since the threat reduced about 2 yrs ago. Not sure about the crabs or Pongos but in the RN wearing of Uniform whilst ashore is positively encouraged.

[BEagle]

Goes down a treat in the 'Blue Oyster', I hear.....

[Kevin O'Neill]

From what I've seen; "Security" never really got into East Anglia so no-one there ever bothered about it.

There was another person involved in the "Missing Lap-top Scandal" that was also 'scarred' by the Gulf War plans going missing - The Driver (who was also looking at new BMW's in the showroom at the time) - He was told (allegedly) he would never make it to Sgt and very soon left the RAF to form his own business (and is doing very well thank you).

Its nice to see that bickering isnt just a 'GC' trait!

[brakedwell]

HAS ANYONE SEEN MY HAT?

[JNo]

What he needs is a good dressing (no pun intended) down from a high ranking officer. Someone like a "Senior" Flight Lieutenant should just about do it.

[Pontius Navigator]

A senior flt lt does not have the gravitas. Now the CAS's WO would be a good one!