DEFO Training accomadations

[AV8R737]

Can anyone answer a few questions. I will be starting F/O training on the freighter in a few months and was wondering:

1. How long does the training take. We were told at the interview that it was 4-6 months. Why would some take 4 months and others take 6 months. Is all the line training in HK or does some of the line training take place at your base.

2. Does Cathay expect you to bring your wife and kid with you to Hong Kong for the training. 6 months is a long time to be away from the wife and newborn.

3. If they expect you to bring the wife along, does Cathay give your wife and child a positive space ticket to come to Hong Kong?

4. Is it true that you can stay in a serviced apartment in the city. If so how much is the monthly allowance? Do some guys do this?

5. How long does it take to convert your ATP to a HK ATPL. or does it depend on how many tests you have to take? Is this in HK, I know the S/O's go to Adelaide?

Thanks

[arryboy]

Ok, the reason they tell you the training takes 4-6 months is because..................it takes 4 - 6 months, being a "Septic"(American) I assume you are joining on the 744 not the classic and as the 744 only flies Ultra long Haul it can be difficult to get more than 6 or 8 sectors a month..............so you have the following:

Join Cx then 3 weeks groundschool with phase exams in which you will be expected to score mid 90% (Pass is 80%) make sure you get Vol 13's when you get to Hong Kong (ask your mates)

14 x 4 hour sim sessions with max 2 sessions then day off, sometimes 2 days off in between

Emergency training

Induction workshops etc

so all this will take two months.....................they will then keep you in hong kong for line training as you can train on the passenger fleet which flies short sectors, Taipei, Manilla, Bankok etc etc

Cathay ain't interested in Mrs.Trainee, she's your concern and you are not entitled to tickets (other than full price) until you have completed 6 months service.

Yes, you can stay in a serviced apartment in the city..........at your own expense..............Cathay provides a room at the headland...................your choice wether to use it or not

HK ATP is based on the UK ATP so you'll have to take the various exams, air law (easy) Performance A (real bitch) and a couple of others, probably take about 2 weeks but I seem to recall you have to do this in your own time, but tech training will help you with all you need to know about this


So, enjoy the training, and don't forget to kiss Mrs trainee goodbye when you leave..........................you won't be doing it again for ..................a long time

hope this helps!!!

[SlamClick]

Septic this!

The Cultural Differences Between Aussies, Canadians, Americans and Brits

Aussies: Dislike being mistaken for Pommies (Brits) when abroad.
Canadians: Are rather indignant about being mistaken for Americans when abroad.
Americans: Encourage being mistaken for Canadians when abroad.
Brits: Can't possibly ever be mistaken for anything else when abroad!

Aussies: Believe you should look out for your mates.
Brits: Believe that you should look out for those people who belong to your club.
Americans: Believe people should look out for and take care of themselves.
Canadians: Believe that it's the government's job.


Aussies: Are extremely patriotic to their beer. Sing loudly and off-key after drinking several beers; national anthem sounds like drunken snoring.
Americans: Are flag-waving, anthem-singing, and obsessively patriotic to the point of ignorance and blindness. Their national anthem is an old British drinking song.
Canadians: Can't even agree on the words to their anthem in one language, let alone actually be bothered to sing it... except before SOME hockey games. No idea who composed it or their nationality.
Brits: Do not sing at all but prefer a large brass band to perform "God Save the Queen." Most couldn't carry a tune in a basket.


Americans: Spend most of their lives glued to the "idiot box."
Canadians: Don't - unless it's "Hockey Night in Canada" - but sure as Hell would if they could get more American TV channels.
Brits: Pay a ridiculously high tax just so they can watch four channels, not a bloody one of them worth a damn.
Aussies: Export all their crappy programs, which no-one there watches anyway, to Britain, where everybody loves them.


Americans: Will jabber on incessantly about American football, baseball, and basketball. And the weather.
Brits: Will jabber on incessantly about cricket, football, and rugby. THEIR weather isn't WORTH discussing.
Canadians: Will jabber on incessantly about hockey, hockey, hockey, and MORE hockey, and how they beat the Americans twice, playing baseball. Their weather is best described as 9 months of winter and 3 months of bad skating.
Aussies: Will jabber on incessantly about how they beat the ****** Brits in every sport they play them in. Could give a big rat's arse about the weather.


Americans: Spell words differently, but still call it "English."
Brits: Pronounce their words differently, but still call it "English."
Canadians: Spell like the Brits; pronounce worse than the Americans.
Aussies: Add "G'day", "mate" and a heavy accent to everything they say in an attempt to get laid.


Brits: Shop at home and have goods imported because they live on an island.
Aussies: Shop at home and have goods imported because they live on an island.
Americans: Cross their southern border for cheap shopping, gas, liquor and cigarettes in a backwards country.
Canadians: Cross their southern border for cheap shopping, gas, liquor and cigarettes in a backwards country.


Americans: Drink weak, pissy-tasting beer. Belch and fart a lot.
Canadians: Drink strong, pissy-tasting beer. Too polite to belch; too poor to fart.
Brits: Drink warm, beery-tasting piss. Afraid of the tax for belching; afraid to fart for fear of arrest for mocking the Queen clearing her throat.
Aussies: Will drink anything with alcohol in it, regardless of taste.


Americans: Seem to think that poverty and failure are morally suspect.
Canadians: Seem to believe that wealth and success are morally suspect.
Brits: Seem to believe that wealth, poverty, success and failure are inherited traits or gifts from the Queen.
Aussies: Seem to think that none of this matters after a few beers.

[arryboy]

slamclick,

the funniest thing about your post is.......

It just ain't funny,

so here's a geography lesson for you......


Geography of a Woman

Between the ages of 18 - 21 a woman is like Africa or Australia. She is half discovered, half wild and naturally beautiful with bushland around the fertile deltas.

Between the ages of 21 - 30 a woman is like America or Japan. Completely discovered, very well developed and open to trade especially with countries with cash or cars.

Between the ages of 30 - 35, she is like India or Spain. Very hot, relaxed and convinced of its own beauty.

Between the ages of 35 - 40 a woman is like France or Argentina. She may have been half destroyed during the war but can still be a warm and desirable place to visit.

Between the ages of 40 - 50 she is like Yugoslavia or Iraq. She lost the war and is haunted by past mistakes. Massive reconstruction is now necessary.

Between the ages of 50 - 60 she is like Russia or Canada. Very wide, quiet and the borders are practically unpatrolled but the frigid climate keeps people away.

Between the ages of 60 - 70 a woman is like England or Mongolia. With a glorious and all conquering past but alas no future.

After 70, they become Albania or Afghanistan. Everyone knows where it is, but no one wants to go there.



The Geography of a Man

------------------------

Between the ages of 15 - 70 a man is like Zimbabwe - ruled by a dick.

[Truckmasters]

Slam Click -
We're well off the topic.
Who cares
Fabulous post and so true too

[AV8R737]

arryboy,
Thanks for the reply. I guess it will have to be a full fare ticket for the mrs. and the little one and a full room at the Headland.
On another note, I hope you meant to write "skeptic American" not "septic American" like you did since that would be rather insulting.

[SlamClick]

I guess humor (or that's humour for you) is a subjective thing. Most "yanks" have a good sense of humor, but a lot of us just don't get the "septic" Aussie slang. Personally, I don't know of any American slang for Australians. Perhaps, it's because we just don't think of you guys like that. In retrospect, I suspect we should be flattered by being so honored (or honoured for you) by this special "septic" title. I guess it means Americans are a big topic of conversation in the land downunder. The only time we think of Australia is when we see Elle McPherson, Kylie Minogue, or lofting a Fosters. ;)

[BlueEagle]

The East End of London, (UK), has long been famous for it's Cockney rhyming slang, "Apples & Pears" = stairs, "Dog & Bone" = 'phone, "Ginger Beer" = queer(gay), etc. so "Septic Tank" = yank.
Not very polite but probably not quite as insulting as it may first appear!

A whole lot more about it here! (http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=cockney+rhyming+slang&btnG=Google+Search&meta=cr%3DcountryUK%7CcountryGB) .

[arryboy]

and the winner is......................yes........Blue Eagle correctly recognises Rhyming slang and wins a major prize. So, being as it is "Cockney Rhyming Slang" and the language of those born within the sound of Bow Bells........................it may also suggest that the authors naionality is other than Australian..........................
Certainly the term Septic is not used or intended to be derogatory in any way........................

Slamclick, couldn't agree more, humour is highly subjective and also often regional................

More importantly, and back on subject AV8R737, sorry to be the bearer of what is probably quite disappointing information but like everyone else you'll get through it and you'll probably find it is worth it long term, especially for a secure future for JuniorAV8R,
think you may need a new handle though, last time I looked don't have any light aircraft.............................

Enjoy

[petitfromage]

If the poster was Australian and you wanted a bite.... just ask him about the Rugby, Netball and oh dear, the Ashes! (all those sporting egos and icons; finally the world can see Australia for what it really is.......the GAFA)

"Septic Tank" = Yank, often shortened by our antipodean cousins to "Sepo's"

Speaking of which......Im "Hank Marvin" (f@ckin starvin)....time for supper!

PS: GAFA for you Sepos is "Great Australian F@ck All"

Anon

[En-Rooter]

OUCH! Fromage. Who stole your cheese? Been done over by a GAFA have ya! Are we stealing too many of your women, or red wine sales?

:cool:

[petitfromage]

Non mon amis, just stirring the pot a little. Dont start me on the cheese eating surrender monkeys......... actually we've done that thread already!

Goodluck on Thurs, can Warney save Aust from a fate worse than a fate worse than death? ;)

[En-Rooter]

Gilly's due for a big one, Lee has balls of steel and oo-ahs back! If the poms win this one they'll certainly deserve it, but it aint over yet!

Cheers,

From rooter (Great Southern Land)