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Tarnished
31st Aug 2005, 15:24
I've just been sent a 5mb .wmv file of a Rafale getting closer to stooffing than anything I have ever seen.

I have the technology to get pictures on here but don't know how to do video.

Anybody care to either tell me how to get it hosted or have me send it on for you to do the necessary?

Regards

Tarnished (IT Challenged of Texas)

Navaleye
31st Aug 2005, 15:30
Tarnished.

Go to www.putfile.com. Its free

Tarnished
31st Aug 2005, 15:39
Thanks Navaleye, if this works then that was easy.

Click here to watch rafalemalmostsplashes (http://media.putfile.com/rafalemalmostsplashes)

Tarnished

My PC won't run the first link so here's another try

http://media.putfile.com/rafalemalmostsplashes

<a href='http://media.putfile.com/rafalemalmostsplashes?PHPSESSID=cea7e124a3a4053536e367713213 64e8' target='_blank'>Click here to watch 'rafalemalmostsplashes'</a>

Can someone let me know if it works?

Rakshasa
31st Aug 2005, 15:42
Almost the same thing as the Typhoon at RIAT.

Gainesy
31st Aug 2005, 16:19
Second link works fine Tarnished.:uhoh:

althenick
31st Aug 2005, 16:26
Perhaps he fancies himself as a buccaneer pilot :O

Tarnished
31st Aug 2005, 16:31
If he had lowered his hook, he could catch fish (with the right lure of course)

KC-10 Driver
31st Aug 2005, 16:34
Reminds of a video I saw some months ago of a USAF F-16 (Thunderbird, I think) doing a loop.

He started the maneuver too low (or perhaps didn't pull hard enough on the backside), and the aircraft pancakes in. The pilot ejected a split second before inpact.

Can anyone post a link to it?

juliet
31st Aug 2005, 17:06
what was all that stuff about typhoon being the only jet that could recover from such a situation? bad way to prove a point but looks like rafael is every bit as powerful and agile as the eurojet

southside
31st Aug 2005, 17:24
So, whats the difference between that and what happens every Tuesday afternoon and Thursday morning in the Plymouth sea areas? That wasn't a near miss at all. The RN Hawk pilots do that weekly.....and with more gusto.

tug3
31st Aug 2005, 20:09
KC-10 Driver

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?threadid=186874

C-here

Rgds
T3

8ball
1st Sep 2005, 01:10
southside, difference is, the Hawks are within intended parameters.

16 blades
1st Sep 2005, 01:28
As Austin Powers once quipped: Fook me!

what was all that stuff about typhoon being the only jet that could recover from such a situation? bad way to prove a point but looks like rafael is every bit as powerful and agile as the eurojet

Yes, either that or it's pilots are just lucky fookwits.

THIS chimp was fooking lucky IMHO.

16B

RiskyRossco
1st Sep 2005, 09:19
Certainly, he missed although I'll bet he still drowned his drawers.

whiz
1st Sep 2005, 09:58
Whilst browsing a certain army site yesterday I came across these 2 very close calls:

Mirage (http://ufcna.com/union-riverains-BA115/crash%20mirage.WMV)

Delfin (http://www.mrdetonator.szm.sk/video1.php)

The Delfin clip takes a little while to load but is worth the wait. Click on the still image of the Delfin and the clip will begin to download.

:eek:

Tarnished
1st Sep 2005, 12:51
Pedantic mode on:

The Mirage one is not a close call, its a crash.

Can't view the Delfin one.

Pedantic mode off.

Tarnished

RebornCyclogenesis
1st Sep 2005, 13:03
Southside,

Yeah and FRADU can even bounce Hawks off the Sea as well....and land in 40kt crosswinds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

maxburner
1st Sep 2005, 13:09
Just watched the Mirage video clip. Nasty! This flying lark seems awfully dangerous, I'm glad I only do battle with the M6. Come to think of it, the M6 is far more deadly than any plane.

whiz
1st Sep 2005, 13:33
Ref the Mirage clip, Trust the French to find a new and novel way to lay down their weapons :rolleyes:

tug3
1st Sep 2005, 15:37
Another driver who experienced ground rush. (Hope the guy walked however - did hit the deck kinda hard!)

http://www.combataircrafts.com/F18.MPG

Rgds
T3

Captain Kirk
1st Sep 2005, 15:46
Comments about 'enough agility to get out of trouble' rather miss the point that it is the performance of the latest generation of aircraft that can so quickly get a pilot into trouble in the first place!

In performance limited aircraft, 'all' the pilot had to do was hit the entry parameters (principally height and speed), park the throttles and pull the requisite g. Typhoon and Rafale will accelerate in the vertical (making it easier to be a little hot at entry) and then accelerate under g: too much power = faster than intended = larger radius of turn = oh sh1t, here comes the ground.

In any jet, things can go from 'normal' to horribly wrong, very quickly. Now it can happen even more quickly! Comments about Typhoon et al being 'easy to fly' do not do justice to the inherent hazards of such dynamically capable platforms. Routine 'poling' skills may be less demanding but the spatial awareness required and the ability to assimilate and act with reference to rapidly changing parameters can not be described as 'easy' by any stretch.

Interestingly, a display pilot will usually have at least 1000 hours on type. The introduction to service of a new aircraft presents an interesting, and demanding, dilemma!

Tarnished - thanks for sending the vid!

Ewan Whosearmy
1st Sep 2005, 16:58
The Hornet driver suffered spinal fractures and even fratured one (or both, can't recall specifically) of his eye sockets. Doubt he flew again.

EDIT: Anyone know the where and when of the Mirage 2000 crash?

Safeware
1st Sep 2005, 17:53
Isn't the hornet crash the one where he is distracted by ATC as he is doing a display, something about a delay and having to change his display on the hoof?

I've seen a longer clip somewhere at work.

Anyone know how to download the Rafale clip on its own?

sw

Tarnished
1st Sep 2005, 18:25
Safeware see PMs for one option.

Tarnished

BEagle
1st Sep 2005, 19:31
That F-18 accident is very nearly what happened to a CF-18 display pilot on a baking hot day at Abbottsford many years ago. We learned later that he'd bottomed at 17 ft agl.....

The Canucks told him to terminate, land, refuel and poke off whence he came.

Density altitude?

West Coast
1st Sep 2005, 19:43
The F18 crash was at MCAS El Toro, South of LA. The pilot went on to fly a number of years later, even performing at a later El Toro airshow as part of a 3 plane civilian act. The Colonel that pancacked choose to do the airshow himself rather than the designated airshow pilot.

tug3
1st Sep 2005, 20:47
Glad to hear the guy made a partial recovery by the sounds of it.

On a lighter note and somewhat off the thread, but a crash of a sort that will make you laugh (a bit):

Ladies and Gentlemen, Children of all ages, may I present to you the world's first 'Human Overrun Barrier' (Ouch!):

www.rob.com/matt/rc/rc-video/747strike.mpg

Rgds
T3

5 Forward 6 Back
1st Sep 2005, 21:11
Anyone have a direct link to the Mirage and Rafale ones?

whiz
2nd Sep 2005, 06:53
Direct link to Mirage

http://ufcna.com/union-riverains-BA115/crash%20mirage.WMV

jwcook
2nd Sep 2005, 10:14
This is a bit smaller for those who don't have bandwidth or time.

http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/755/rafale2043qy.gif

from OPIT posted here :-
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=43856&page=15&pp=30

Cheers

John Eacott
2nd Sep 2005, 11:23
The Rafael clip is somewhat reminiscent of an F4K flypast (well, beat up) off Ark: zot feet, Warp 9, pull, burners, and kept going horizontally, standing almost vertical, for a long, long time before thrust overcame inertia. The exhaust from the afterburners kicked up enough spray to put most of the flight deck IMC, to the great delight of the goofers :cool: :ok:

Happy days......

Thud_and_Blunder
2nd Sep 2005, 17:23
Have managed to download the Delfin (eek!) and Rafale vids, but every time I try the Mirage I get an error message saying "invalid http server reply" plus a load of ANSI hieroglyphics. I've tried the usual right-click-"save-as" alternative method too - same result.

Does anyone have an alternative link, please?

Gainesy
3rd Sep 2005, 08:28
Thud,
I can't view the Delfin one but have the Mirage one, if you PM me an e-mail address we can do a swap.

Moe Syzlak
20th Sep 2005, 15:07
Southside: The FRADU are no longer authorised to 50' after a chap bounced off the water. Most if not all of them are ex-RAF with currently NO fulltime RN. Other than that-a good post.