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R1820
23rd Jul 2005, 15:24
Wondering if anyone can give me a close approximation of how many pilots are currently employed by Cathay

Thanks

Night Watch
23rd Jul 2005, 20:31
I think about 1800 or so at last count....... maybe close to 1900 though.

skibeagle
24th Jul 2005, 15:59
1802 on the list as of this afternoon

R1820
25th Jul 2005, 02:47
Thank you. Do you happen to know how many they are looking to add this year?

ConditionLever
26th Jul 2005, 10:52
They want to add about 100 this year that will take the total to just short of 2000 by the end of the year.

Pierre Argh
26th Jul 2005, 14:17
how many pilots are currently employed by Cathay

as opposed to "how many pilots work for Cathay"?

... about 10% of them.

Yeager
27th Jul 2005, 14:15
Cheers,

Yeah employed and working is different. A lot of guys do actually work quite hard - if you ask me. Personally I did not come here to work!! :ok: Hey who the h... wants to work?? :p :p

Work to live - dont live to work. :cool:

Stay cool,

I.J.

skibeagle
28th Jul 2005, 03:04
Condition lever - according to my sources they want to add about 1500 this year. Unfortunatley the Pilot training system is the choke point - didn't you read the DFO's newsletter that pilot training is the chokepoint of the company's expansion ???

The figure is more like target of 230 - reality will be about 185ish. Which is all the pilot sausage machine can turn out.

JetSitter4
10th Aug 2005, 01:44
Yeah employed and working is different "how many pilots work for Cathay"?
How much do you work?
days / month?
Hrs?
Schedules?

Thanks

ConditionLever
14th Aug 2005, 11:06
skibeagle,

I didn't read the update and my figures must be out of date. I got them from the DFO's article in the Christmas 2004 issue of Crews News. Thanks for the latest.

CL.

Scooter Rassmussin
17th Aug 2005, 06:54
Any chance of direct entry F/os on pax fleet if they have 330/340 ,777 , or 747-400 ratings already.

The Messiah
18th Aug 2005, 01:56
Yeah and you'd be real popular for that.

404 Titan
18th Aug 2005, 02:18
Scooter Rassmussin
You said:
Any chance of direct entry F/os on pax fleet if they have 330/340 ,777 , or 747-400 ratings already.
Does a snow flake exist in hell? Answer = NO.

If you want to get into CX as a direct entry F/O the only way is on the freighter fleet.

tamalai
18th Aug 2005, 02:47
all of which may be about to change.........................the accountants want DE F/O's on all fleets..............................

petitfromage
18th Aug 2005, 07:40
nice try: bolleaux!

Nullaman
18th Aug 2005, 12:47
tamalai is closer to the money than you think little cheese - although I understand your scepticism.

The hard facts are that, with the growth forecasts for the company, it will be a gargantuan task indeed to man all the pumps. With impending pilot retirements, and the arrival of new equipment, the training machine will be hard pressed to cope. We know what happened when the training pressure became a bit to much to bear on the 'bus fleet recently. It could easily happen again if previous lessons have not been learnt.

The area that will need to be addressed is how to expedite suitably qualified S/O's to their upgrades so they don't get leap-frogged by DE F/O's (paxfleet) should it come to that. Oh no not another round of bypass pay! Then how do you reconcile that with the current freighter folk and their payscale?

I suspect a few 'what if' scenarios are being run at the moment to try and find the most expeditious way to man the expansion. My bet is that there will be a bold move shortly to sort it all out once and for all. Probably encompassed within the 60 retirement deal/scenario.

Bottom line is share performance. Grounded aircraft due to crew shortages will not reflect well on the end of year balance sheet. Shareholders will want results and not excuses.