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wessexairways
22nd Jul 2005, 23:40
Observed the incident of N280FT which today at approximately midday local crashed into the Charly area to the west or runway 15 at Kissimmee Gateway airport.

No one hurt, just a low hours ppl student on second solo had a problem yet to be disclosed and was unable to control the aircraft.

The nose wheel and undercarriage was completely bent off but caused no injury.

Once official data is posted will update this thread.

It would appear that there is no problem with OFT aircraft and as a current student I can confirm they have an excellent fleet in great shape for training aircraft and some excellent instructors who are very accomodating and willing to help.

Will keep this thread up to date.

Wessex

Mercenary Pilot
23rd Jul 2005, 09:52
Gutted! Ive flown all over Florida in 80FT:(
Still, glad to hear nobody hurt.

metar
23rd Jul 2005, 10:32
Probably stalled on landing, watched it balloon twice and on the third bounce broke the nose wheel and bent the aircraft. Doh... happens quite a bit - someone did it at Fife a couple of weeks back to a C152 - right off apparently.

PrecisionLandings
23rd Jul 2005, 21:02
Yeah this happened about two years ago when i was out in the states. Think it was abit more dramatic guy had an engine failure at the end of the runway and landed in the trees. I think he had a few scratches and bruises but was ok. Top guy though, few days later he was flying again. :ok:.

Glad to hear no one hurt.

Precision Landings !!

SR20flyDoc
24th Jul 2005, 09:01
:O

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Word from another student is that

- it was instructor with pupil
- he was out of fuel

Great, getting out of fuel with an instructor, this is the way to teach that fuel is essential.... and 85% of all single engine accidents.

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20050721X01072&key=1

S.
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Edited because this was a recent crash at NAC :O

Mercenary Pilot
24th Jul 2005, 09:33
SR20flyDoc

I think thats a different crash. N280FT is operated and owned by Orlando Flight Training.

Jinkster
24th Jul 2005, 20:38
Did about 30hrs in her myself inc a trip to Key West which included flying over the Everglades at night!!!!! :cool:

BillieBob
24th Jul 2005, 20:41
..which included flying over the Everglades at night!!!!! There's none so blind as those who will not see.

Mercenary Pilot
24th Jul 2005, 21:08
..which included flying over the Everglades at night!!!!!

If the fan stops at least you wont see the gator that eats you:E

Did the same trip myself, fantastic!:D

VisaGeeza
24th Jul 2005, 21:49
What’s with this paranoia about alligators in Florida? It's the mosquitoes that will get you at night in the everglades! The alligators are there to help clean up the left overs in the morning!;)

wessexairways
25th Jul 2005, 14:18
Still no clear news,

Definately was a student solo not with an instructor.

Looks like he may have cought some wake turb from departing traffic, but nothing official has been released so it is only speculation.

Just off to the keys for the 3rd day in a row

WA

smith
25th Jul 2005, 17:32
I think there are crossed lines here, two different incidents are being discussed, one at OFT a solo student and one at Naples FL a student and instructor running out of fuel. The incident at OFT sounds exactly like an incident, nothing more than an extremely heahy landing after balooning. THe Naples one sounds a bit more serious as it sounds as if it went down due to running out of fuel tut, tut.

stuart youngs
27th Jul 2005, 15:06
I am sure it was truly an accident, but I have seen and heard nightmare stories from OFT.
EG brakes didn't respond on the twin I was flying from there.
If you look at the previous history of OFT there has been an accident from bad maintainence.
I hope the guy is okay and up in the air as soon as ..

Jinkster
27th Jul 2005, 21:47
..which included flying over the Everglades at night!!!!!

Tis all good fun - dont think I'd do it again with more experience!!!:uhoh:

wessexairways
29th Jul 2005, 19:36
The student pilot concerened is back in the seat finnishing his ppl.

Does not seem phased by it at all, he was more pi**ed off with filling out the paperwork at the police station!

This incident did not have anything to do with poor maintainence at OFT. Think they have cleaned up their act, all acft seem to be in good shape and very very clean.

Currently I am flying the cadets and warriors and they are all appear to be well equipped and in good shape with only the occaisional minor defect.

They have also just purchased 2 new cadets which are being brought on line today. The main thing that lets the school down is the poor schedualing, watch this space for a post!

Wessex

TubularBells
31st Jul 2005, 15:37
I am sure it was truly an accident, but I have seen and heard nightmare stories from OFT. EG brakes didn't respond on the twin I was flying from there

Did you take off then? Or go back to get them fixed? Are you saying that OFT refused to fix the brakes of this aircraft? What action did you take as a result?

I have personal experience of flying with OFT and other than the fact that they could do with another Seminole, I had absolutely no problem with them whatsoever. To the contrary, I very much enjoyed my experience with them and successfully completed a multi-cpl there.

Don't cast generalised aspersions at other people or institutions unless you are prepared to back it up. Especially not when the discussion is so serious. I'm sorry for being a bit strong (I vary rarely make comments), but I'm sure you wouldn't like it if it was cast at you or your business.

Enough said,

TB.