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13th Jan 2005, 12:30
does anyone know what the ryanair sim check at east midlands might involve. Any info would be great and from anyone that has just recently completed it. Also have you any info on how many cadets are being taken on.
this might also be a stupid question, although ryanair are doing the sim checks, do you have to pay for it and if so how much.
13th Jan 2005, 15:51
I had more or less the same question, I've also had an invitation!
If anyone would like to share any information with us, such as airports and aircraft used, the scenario for non type-rated pilots, anything would be more than welcome!
Thanks in advance!
13th Jan 2005, 19:16
When did you apply and which school?
Did you get invited by email?
13th Jan 2005, 22:05
How long did you have to wait for an invitation, after you'd applied?
14th Jan 2005, 14:24
I had to wait just under a year and received information by email, it would be great if anyone else would give there comments if they have recently completed sim check and how long they had to wait for an answer that they had been succesful
14th Jan 2005, 14:48
I started to apply to Ryanair approved flight schools almost 6 months ago.
I never received a reply.
I apply to all of them, including the new one approved starting from 2005.
I recently applied through CAE, Amsterdam I think.
No replies at all.
I will continue to wait...
14th Jan 2005, 16:19
Well thanks a lot, and great that you took the effort to reply to our question.
At least now we have some idea now what's waiting for us, what's expected in general and a bit what the grading in EMA could be like. I'm sure we'll do our best and we'll see how it turns out!
License to Fly
14th Jan 2005, 17:36
Has anyone who has been on the SIM ride at EMA heard about/had the interview yet ?
14th Jan 2005, 17:38
Those who are going for sim checks, which school is it through and how long ago was the application?
14th Jan 2005, 19:46
For those of you that have been to EMA - but have not had an interwiev date yet:
FR are re-writing their OM to allow pilots that have not done initial training on the NG, but rather been trained on 400's through 600's and then had a conversion. Word is that they want the IAA approval in place before giving any dates.
Info from reliable recruitment source contracting for FR - hope that helps. ;)
17th Jan 2005, 15:58
What patz said is accurate, had my assessment in December.
The T/O was something like climb on reduced EPR, to 1500' then accelerate up to 3000' then flap retraction per their schedule.
Also you will get some technical questions and they were generally on the overhead panel. Be honest with your answers tho dont try to bull the Head of Training, he knows more than you.
Also what empty said is true bout their OM. i'm waiting for them to change to get my interview. So i have to wait until its done.
If your going for it enjoy the -200 its quite good fun.
17th Jan 2005, 17:51
This is for those that have gone to the sim check,are you given an interview no matter the outcome of the sim check or is it a case that if you pass sim check you get interview and how soon after sim check are you informed that you have completed the check succesfully.
17th Jan 2005, 19:01
Do you have any more details about FR re-writing their OM?
When will it be done and what exactly are the updates etc?
18th Jan 2005, 07:50
To Oskar, No not all people will get an interview some have been told 'no not straight away but maybe if we still need pilots in a few months'. A polite way of saying NO. I found out i'd passed the following friday, the longest week of my life.
Pattz, How long is a piece of string, by the sounds of it, Ryanair are pretty desperate so I think they would be pushing it through as fast as they could, but it will be the IAA who will decide how long. The changes as far as i'm aware are to allow those who have compleated a type rating on 3/4/500 with NG diff. to work for them but dont quote me.
Good luck to all.
26th Mar 2005, 16:10
I apply to all of them, including the new one approved starting from 2005What are the approved training schools at the moment. Since FR changed their website, I can not see 'the list on the left' anymore. I guess CAE and SAS. What about GECAT? And what about this new one?
And any news on the re-writing of those manuals? Anybody who passed the sim invited for an interview yet?
30th Mar 2005, 15:04
- 737-200 SIM.
- 45 mins left 45mins right
- Approved Schools are CAE & SAA
- Pay for SIM yourself
- Everybody gets Personnel Interview irrespective of SIM result.
31st Mar 2005, 11:24
- Approved Schools are CAE & SAA
What about RWL? They have a website for General Information B737-800 Type Rating course RWL/Ryanair (http://www.rwl-training.de/)?
- Everybody gets Personnel Interview irrespective of SIM result. I know some guys who did the sim in EMA who were told 'no not straight away but maybe if we still need pilots in a few months' after the sim. As rjay259 pointed out, a polite way to say no?! Anyway, no interview for them. But I understand that there haven't been interviews since december last year anyway due to this manual problem? Or has this been solved yet?
Hi Folks, No posts on this thread in a while.....keep coming with the gen. Im still waiting but information in gold!"!!!
12th Apr 2005, 17:07
To be honest it seems like you don't know what you are talking about...5 of my mates have been to EMA this year, all have had Personnel Interviews and only 2 passed the SIM.
None were told NO outright. Those who did fail were contacted and invited to reapply next year. Change your source me thinks!!!
3rd May 2005, 09:24
The source I'm talking to is the guy who was told no thank you himself. I'm sure he must be right! He surely isn't going to be interviewed. Sure he may apply another time.
When did your mates have those interviews, because I haven't heard about interviews lately. This rumour about manuals... What is the situation like at the moment? Anyone who have been wainting for an interview this year have been invited yet?
Sure there must be starting TR's for Ryanair at the moment.
4th May 2005, 08:45
Its been a while but,
Laslo perhaps your 'mates' were lucky at the time, I dont know but I was told by the guys who were told no not yet, of course they could apply next month, next year, do you really think that FR are going to say no to someone who will pay them money, me thinks not.
The last I heard regarding the manual was that unless you do the ryanair course which is entirely on the -800 you must have 100 hrs on type before they will accept you onto the course.
Sucks for me.
Please dont assume that because it didn't happen to you they way it happened to others that they are wrong, it will make an ass of u and me.
Good luck everybody.
Hi to you all!
Although I still donīt want to get too excited about it, After millions of negatives, I just got called for an assessment next Tuesday in East Midlands! I didnīt expect them to call me and specially not with 5 says in advance! So I was hoping to get some advice from any of you to help calm my nerves down a little. Is anyone else going on the next 10th of May? How many assessments do they usually run per year? You think I could actually have any chances of making it through, or I will just be spending money and time? Where in Europe could I find some 737 200 /300 simulator time, apart from CAE in brussels? Any answers welcome!
4th May 2005, 20:13
If you can use a 737-300 sim SAS flight academy has one .. you may enquire about what you want to do thru www.danfly.net
5th May 2005, 06:49
PARC Aviation in Dublin has a B737-200 sim and some instructors are from Ryanair. Don't stress too much about it - just be positive and be yourself. HR interview very relaxed. Technical interview - know the aircraft that you've flown last. Sim check - an hour or two in a 200 sim will do you the world of good. Did selection last week and starting type rating next week :D . Hope that helps.
Thank You Ibanez, id did help indeed. Weīll see how it goes! Good luck with the rating
6th May 2005, 14:43
I successfully did the FR sim check a little while back. It was tough, including an asymmetric procedural ILS. There was a mix of airline experienced and inexperienced candidates. Pass rate is quite low according to my sources, so I would very much recommend brushing up in a sim before hand, and the cost was Ģ252.
One excellent sim instructor I have used is Dan Brownie (+ 44 (0) 7947 007569, Ģ150 per hour inc sim per crew of two) who uses the 727 sim at Bournemouth. This sim has a very similar layout and instruments to the 737-200 FR use at EMA, so was very good practice.
The training captains who took the day did put you at ease and the atmosphere was very much 'we have got loads of jobs going so you are not in competition with each other - everyone who is good enough and works well together will pass' rather than ten competing for a couple of places, best two on the day wins sort of thing.
Cheers and good luck
6th May 2005, 15:00
Takes place in either an SP77 or an SP177 analogue B737-200, depends on the configuration of the sim on the day. All manualy flown from the seat of your preference.
Take off, climb out on a simple SID and level off at about 3000. Speed AC up and slow it down whilst maintaining height and heading. Steep turns whilst maintaining height and speed both directions. Then a few questions about QDM and QDR reference a VOR/NDB...ie what QDM/QDR are you on now. Then asked to intercept specific QDM/QDR.
Engine failure slow time and then into the hold for a procedural ILS to land.
6th May 2005, 16:16
Ibanez well done! Good luck with your rating! Where will you do the training? With CAE or SAS?
Cipri good luck on Tuesday! Profile of my mates was the same as ifleeplanes described, but they didn't do any assymetric stuff. As you may have read, some of them didn't get through, but most did. They are still waiting to be interviewed by HR though.
7th May 2005, 09:09
Rating is an internal type rating at East Midlands. You will definitely get an engine fire followed by assymetric approach on the day - everyone got one, no matter what the experience. The sim is paused, however, when you do your briefings and when you set up for the approach. HR interview is on the same day (normally) as the sim check.
Good luck to all. It's such a pitty about the negativity that people have about Ryanair.
17th May 2005, 13:13
It all worked out very smoothly and it seems Iīll be starting the course very soon, so thank you all for your help, although I still have my doubts. I am wondering if everyone that after having an assesment at EMA and successfully completing the rating, finally got a job, because the contract as I see it doesnīt assure you a job. I have now been asked by the SAS to fill in the application on the Ryanair site (the one you have to pay for) I canīt see the point in doing this after having passed the assessment and having been asigned a starting date. Does anyone know if this is strictly necessary?
17th May 2005, 15:18
Congratulation for your assessment ! :ok:
Can you give us a lil bit about it ?
Regarding SAS, I thought u should have apply with 'em before the appointment.
How did they get youre data though ?
and a piece of youre felling would be great.
18th May 2005, 09:58
Well, i have completed the course, have my LST on friday. Although they do not garuntee you a job you initially recieve a six month training contract that begins as soon as base training is completed and ends six months later, although i believe it actually ends when line training is complete which can take anywhere from 3 weeks to 6 months. After that as long as you are up to the standard you then recieve a full time contract.
Pay wise you start on second officer basic and half sector until line training is complete. I should take home on average Ģ1300 to Ģ1500 net a month then work your way up the pay scale as your experience increases.
The type rating course is difficult, it requires a lot of effort put in away from standard office hours. Ryanair is a help yourself airline, I (we) are expected to look after all our own affairs - Recurrency date awareness, medical, travel, roster, lunch etc etc. no one is calling me or ringing me making sure i know where i should be and when.
18th May 2005, 15:49
Sonds like the Air Force.
No nanny !?
18th May 2005, 19:24
Well the assessment was quite straight forward, they told me in advance how the check was going to be, and that's exactly what it was like, a SID, and then an Eng Fire and a 1 engine ILS approach. I didnīt manage to get some time on the 737 simulator before hand and although it would have surely helped, I found it quite "affordable" to fly even though I have only piston time. The Instructors made me feel quite relaxed about it, and that surely helped. The personal interviews werenīt intimidating at all. So I guess all this helped to make me feel as comfortable as you can feel in such a situation. By the way, Before hand I just sent my cv through the SAS.
19th May 2005, 17:35
Hi Cipri !!
' like your answer and your feeling about this day, thanks lot.
Just have to go through the dam MCC before turning up at EMA... and...shake:D
9th Sep 2005, 12:15
I done it in July and passed. It's not to hard, a departure from EGGP on the WAL 2T departure, followed by tight turns both 30 and 40 degrees. Intercept a QDM back to the beacon, enter the hold and i got a engine fire in the hold. Shut it down and fly a raw data ILS back to Liverpool.
Hope this helps
9th Sep 2005, 13:57
What about RWL? They have a website for General Information B737-800 Type Rating course RWL/Ryanair?
Type rating 737-800 RWL/Ryanair (http://www.rwl-training.de/index.htm)
Does this offer still exits?
And how many hours is the line training?