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7th Dec 2004, 16:27
Do any Virgin Crew have any comments on the "Suite Dreams" porno being played in Hotel rooms across the US?
For those who havn't seen it it's about a flight on a virgin flight with cabin crew as prostitutes etc etc.
Produced by Virgin Atlantic and aimed at the businessman.
7th Dec 2004, 16:50
Come again?! The airline itself has made an adult film to promote itself?!
7th Dec 2004, 17:00
Its a "piss take" and part of Virgins long term integrated marketing strategy. And an excellent addition I might add. End of story.
7th Dec 2004, 19:10
I wouldn't say end of story i've heard that cabin crew are very annoyed at being portrayed in this way?
7th Dec 2004, 20:05
Where can you get a copy!!!!!
7th Dec 2004, 21:03
did anyone read that story in one of the tabloids last weekend?
hmm yes the shenanagins they get up to on a STOPOVER to CORFU :rolleyes:
8th Dec 2004, 05:13
I guess just one of the cons for working for Virgin and having Richard Branson as your boss!!!! lol-isn't this the whole look Branson is wanting of his crew anyway? If i was Virgin crew, i would be extremely annoyed!!!! Maybe a good marketing strategy, but i don't think a good idea to depict your employees as porn stars!!!!!! a year or two ago, Virgin's low cost Australian airline, "Virgin Blue" was voted to have the best looking cabin crew out of ANY airline worldwide.........that there proves what he's looking for!
8th Dec 2004, 05:54
It's totally crappy and corny. Im suprised no one has seen snippets in their emails of it. It makes flying more dissappointing after watching it haha
8th Dec 2004, 07:34
Can anyone verify/support with a link or 3, that this story is actually true?
8th Dec 2004, 08:47
ps sorry its called "suite and innocent"
8th Dec 2004, 11:51
SO Virgin Blue have the best looking cc in the world? Can't see what's wrong with that. It's what the customers want to see, end of story.
8th Dec 2004, 12:09
Bluebaron, you seem to have some sort of private agenda. Care to share it with us?:suspect:
8th Dec 2004, 13:56
Thanks for those links Bluebaron.
Always good to know a bit more before making up ones mind.
You guys must have heard the joke thats been doing the rounds for years and years.
B4 shooting me down in flames, I didn't make it up and it was one of my cabin crew members who told me.
What separates two raging alcoholics from a bunch of prostitutes........................................
...............the cockpit door!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
8th Dec 2004, 20:11
Why do FAs have one more brain cell than a cow?
So they don't sh!t in the aisle.
9th Dec 2004, 05:44
Nothing wrong with good looking cabin crew at all, thats part of the stereotype isn't it? This is obviously just ONE of Branson's marketing strategies to get people to fly Virgin Blue. As a passenger i would tend to focus on the level of customer service and the product rather than the looks of the person delivering it? Just my thoughts anyway.
9th Dec 2004, 13:21
I disagree in the strongest terms - looks shouldn't be a factor. Yes, it's nice to have pretty crew. But I'd rather have a crew who can do their jobs properly.
I seem to remember a specific airline who's cabin crew were all beautiful. When they had a SERIOUS accident, the cabin crew couldn't get the pax out - they just froze - and people died.
Not pleasant. Ability should be the criteria, not looks.
9th Dec 2004, 13:37
I seem to remember a lot of fuss many years ago when BCal had its 'I wish they all could be Caledonian girls' ads on TV. Some of the cabin crew called it sexist, demeaning, blah, blah, blah.
If you speak to anyone re BCal these days and they will probably talk of the excellent customer service, then launch into the tag line from the ad.
Strange to think that a spoof comedy full of innuendo and sexism like 'take the high life' (or whatever it was called') is popular among cabin crew, but an airline sponsored advertising spoof gets people all twisted in angst.
It is a spoof................ nobody thinks it is for real............. now go and get a sense of humour girls and boys
9th Dec 2004, 19:07
BB - I was most disappointed to see its called Suite & innocent; particularly as Virgin Atlantic post is franked "Suite Dreams" these days :cool:
10th Dec 2004, 06:42
I think to be accurate they burnt rather than froze, but you point is valid. The problem is that as a pax (100,000 miles a year or so, mostly in F) I'm not going to choose my airline on how survivable I think they will be if they crash - the chance of that happening (i.e. a crash that has any chance of being survivable) is so small as to be insignificant. I'll choose on the basis of the likelihood of a crash in the first place (excluding KE, CI GA, AI, PIA on that basis) and then on the quality of the service, which, politically incorrect though it is to say it, includes how attractive the cabin crew are. I'll take a beautiful Cathay girl calling me "Mr Christep" over an American Granny calling me "sweetheart" (in the tone she uses for her grandchildren) any day.
10th Dec 2004, 07:20
panda-k-bear - Let's imagine that you're responsible for Cabin Crew recruitment, there's one place vacant, and you've got a choice of two people where both are ace at all the safety stuff and in all other issues they're practically identical. However one is a minger and the other is a babe. So which one are you going to pick for the job ?
10th Dec 2004, 08:45
Oh come now, DA, not very likely is it. There will be something else that separates them. Demeanour, perhaps. One thing I've run into several times is that good looking people tend to know it - usually a little too much. 9 times out of 10, the minger will be more pleasant and will try harder - the beautiful one has never had to. IF they were equally capable of doing the job,I'd pick the one with the most pleasant attitude, not the one who looks the best. Maybe I'm perculiar, but that's the way I see it. Chances are I'd never see the crew member again anyway, so what is gained by picking a pretty one?
Generally agree, 'cept I avoid Air France at all costs cos I detest CDG. I can honestly say that the attractiveness of the cc has never influenced my selection of carrier - and I am similar to you in that I travel frequently in the front of the bus long haul, but probably doubling that 100 000 miles. If I'm satisified with a carrier's safety, then yes, service and reputation is next in line. Trouble is it takes an incident like the one I referred to to reveal how safe an airline really is by revealing its flaws. Haven't flown with them since that happened... Not only the cc issue, but the CRM up front sounded pretty darn frightening too, but it's not something that I, as a non-pilot be still heavily involved in the industry, would have known about.
10th Dec 2004, 08:52
panda-k-bear - Hypothetical as it might be, please don't duck the question - wherein I did say that the two were identical in every way except their looks and, on that basis, which would you pick ?
10th Dec 2004, 09:15
I wouldn't give a monkey's either way, quite frnakly. Probably have to toss a coin.
10th Dec 2004, 12:21
Probably have to toss something!:ooh:
10th Dec 2004, 13:22
Had the Virgin FA philosophy explained to me by one of their pilots the other day. While I am very glad my company doesn't do it that way, it sounded to me like Virgin FAs know exactly what they get into, what the company's aims and ideas are, and what is in it for the FAs.
Virgin, (acc to this chap) looks for young attractive people, easily smart enough to do their SEPs, with an outgoing personality and a fresh aproach to giving service. Young people who do not intend to make a career of being an FA, but who want to travel the world for a few years and then get into 'real' careers. As he said: " We don't pay them enough to make it worth their while staying, but we do make sure we have on every flight at least one senior old enough to bring to the operation the amount of life and FA experience necessary for an overall good and safe product."
One can argue about the truth and wisdom of that ( Flyblue & I did just that and he gave as good as he got ;) ) but it works for Virgin and it works for those who FA with Virgin.
We all have the choice of who we fly with as pax, and no one has ever been forced to accept a job with Virgin either.
Different strokes .................... :p
10th Dec 2004, 15:05
The above makes good sense! If you don't like it - leave! Life is too short to be miserable anyway. Move to Florida and live with us! (The sun shines most of the time!)
11th Dec 2004, 08:06
Why do people feel compelled to tell us they travel in First..... like that has any relevance to the post.... God I'm bored....
11th Dec 2004, 14:34
I know - I have no time for show off's! Bored = yes aren't we all?
12th Dec 2004, 06:53
The point I was trying to make by mentioning First is that it is my own money, not a company's, and quite a lot of it, so I'm going to pick airlines carefully so I get what I want. And attractive cabin crew is part of that - ones whose actions tell me that they are there primarily to make my flight as enjoyable as possible, rather than those who get the whole flight off to a bad start by telling me they are their primarily for my safety - that's not what I pay the extra above economy fares for.
12th Dec 2004, 08:10
And why do they feel the need to then tell us it's their own money? Somebody needs to get out more. Preferably in the privately purchased Aston :p
A good looking crew is not the reason to choose a particular airline but it's a nice side benefit. :) Much more important though is how they treat people and interact with pax. Couple of brain cells beats a couple of nice **** any day.
12th Dec 2004, 12:52
hey calm down boys and girls, this is a bulletin board for people to put their opinions. All Christep is doing is qualifying his reasoning, I can't see any boasting in his replies. I'd say it was you guys who had the problem.
Christep said 'quality of service' which 'included how good looking the cabin crew were'. So 'good looks' are not the prime and only reason for his choices, but they are contributory. What is wrong with that? I can think of some lovely looking cabin crew that were hopeless at their job, and I can also think of some average lookers that had such a 'you'd better be PC or else' attitude that they were also hopeless. It is a contributory factor that's all.
edited to add
cargosales are you really suggesting that good looking cabin crew cannot also have brain cells?
12th Dec 2004, 13:15
absolutely not, plenty I know have great looks, great attitude and brain cells :)
13th Dec 2004, 13:43
Whats all this got to do with my orginal question??
13th Dec 2004, 17:11
Well I guess the lack of replies from Virgin crew probably means they aren't as wound up about it as you.
Could be the end of the thread then !!
13th Dec 2004, 17:34
It's about time!
13th Dec 2004, 17:49
Seeing as Virgin were the airline who were going to have urinals in their exec loung shaped liked womens lips, it can only be suggested that RB will truly stop at nothing in his quest for PR.
It seems the more tawdry and sleazy, the better, from this latest venture. :yuk:
13th Dec 2004, 18:05
Hmmm from that response you'd never guess you worked for BA :D :D
13th Dec 2004, 18:19
A matter of opinion I'd say anti-ice!!
Branson must be doing something right due to the huge success his airline has had.
It might not be in everyone's tastes, but it's AMUSING and it sells!! If the PC brigade got their paws on every bit of distasteful comedy these days, we wouldn't be laughing at anything. So wind your necks in and see it for what it is. Poor crew? What a load of old tripe!!
:D :D :D
13th Dec 2004, 18:27
I notice you are a fan of 'Little Brittan' Anti-Ice!! That is a show which parodies all manner of situations, and is occassionally quite lewd, so I guess it is just VS in total that you don't like.
13th Dec 2004, 20:26
Regardless of all this fury about this ludicrous Virgin episode, I guess the publicity strategy works...I'd rather be watching those flicks then seeeing people blown up on CNN every day in the morning. Just an opinion:ok: