Any useful extra purchases for ATPL study?

[Pilot16]

About to start my ATPL course in a month finally, and as weird as it may sound to a lot of people, I have actually looked eagerly forward to my ATPL studies and cant wait to get started and learning finally ;)

To those who have done the ATPLs or are still doing them...what other study material did you buy and found/finding useful on top of the course material provided by the institution?

I hear the '1000 Q & A + Explanations' are very good?

thanks.

[mad_jock]

Performance by Swatton

Dodgy 737 cbt CD which someone nice will have to burn for you.

And flying the big jets if you can get hold of it.

And one of those videos of a flight with xxxx from LHR to LAX or something. Make sure its one that go's through the EFIS systems and auto pilot modes on a boeing. And if it has a CAT III landing even better. I hear the multi screen dvd;s are pretty good.

MJ



Would leave the feedback well alone until you have read the course material

[redsnail]

Pssst MJ, don't you mean "Handling the Big Jets"? That's the one I used during my ATPLs. It's the good one :D

[mad_jock]

yep cheers Reddo. Like rocking horse ****e these days though to get hold of.

And no i ain't selling mine. Its got way to much good stuff in it.

MJ

[Pilot16]

yup, thanks for the reply,
I been hearing praises for 'Handling the Big Jets' book too...I think Ill go for one!

[loftustb]

I agree with mad-jock on "Aircraft Performance Theory for Pilots" by P. J. Swatton.

I found the "Dictionary of Aeronautical Terms"* useful (compiled and edited by Dale Crane - it's American). Contains a concise paragraph on everything you can think of like "hung start", "hydraulic actuator" and "mach tuck" - these terms will mean something when you get into the ATPLs.

* Available from all the usual Pilot Shops

[mattd2k]

I recently picked up copies of both 'Handling the Big Jets' and 'Flying the Big Jets' from a certain well known pilot store at Shoreham airport. They did have more copies of both at the time so give them a call.

Although both are quite similar they are proving useful in my ATPL studies as a supplement to my ground school notes.

Don't worry about feeling strange because you are looking forward to starting your studies as I am actually enjoying doing them, even Air Law! :\

Good Luck!

[mad_jock]

The 737 CBT CDrom is a god send for the FMS and EFIS instrument stuff. You can't buy it though......

Quite a few schools do hand it out but as its boeing copyright i should imagine its completley illegal. And covered by WWW post above on software sharing. Maybe someone nice who has a copy will PM you and send you it ;)

MJ

[Topgun 4122T]

I found keynotes for pilots vol 1 & 2 by Stuart E . smith a very usefull aid and also the Oxford met cd ..hope that helps...................topgun

[Pilot16]

Thanks for all the replies...Just ordered 'Handling the Big Jets', 'Arcraft Performance Theory for Pilots' 'Key facts for JAA ATPL exams Vol 1 and 2'

That chould keep me busy for the month ;)

Thanks again

:ok:

I already have the Dictionary of Aeronautical Terms. Its very useful, came handy in my physics A-Level too!

[Charlie Zulu]

I'm finding the following useful for the ATPLs.

Oxford Meteorology CD-ROM
Oxford ATPL Exam Preperation (2500 questions on CD-ROM)

For the technicals there is a 4 book series called "The Commercial Pilots Study Manual Series" written by Mike Burton. I bought these many years ago (around six) and my PPL instructor back then said they were really good books. Mike Burton was his ground school instructor... hehehe.

Best wishes,

Charlie Zulu.

[PFD]

And one of those videos of a flight with xxxx from LHR to LAX or something. Make sure its one that go's through the EFIS systems and auto pilot modes on a boeing. I think MJ is referring to the go fly 737-300 video with Capt John? Mahon Stanstead to Lisbon return, it's got a TCAS TA in it as well which is good value. If you are interested I think I have a spare copy I got with a FS upgrade, PM me.

[Pilot16]

I have little concern, not sure I want to start a new thread.

People usually seem to have done their hour building before commencing ATPL. However I have only about 75 hours total, of which 15 hours P1, also covers a night rating.

I hav not done the hour bulding up to 150 hours, 100 hours P1. I thought I will leave it till after the ATPL (due to circumstances beyond control). Am I putting my self at a disadvantage by doing this? :confused:

[mad_jock]

Nah I faxed my order into OAT before my PPL had hit the door mat.

You can use hour building as a treat for doing your studies.

After the next 5 sections i can have 10 hours flying etc.

You have to have finished and passed you ATPL's before any skills test and you have to have built 150 hours before starting your CPL course. You are actually better saving 10-20 hours of you building until just before you start your course. Then you start current. Would recommend though that you have all the exams out the way before starting either IR or CPL

MJ

[Pilot16]

Thanks very much mad_jock :ok:

Thats what I was thinking too, but it did strike me how many people advise (including FTO's) and actually get the 150 hours before ATPL theory.

Infact, in many ways, after thinking about it, its better to leave the hour building till after the ATPL, then you'll be a more knowledgable and overall a wiser person to build up your flying skills. Plus as you say mad_jock, you will be current when starting CPL.

Thanks for your reply again. :)