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spittingimage
29th Apr 2004, 13:29
Heard today that very recently a passenger was pulled at EGCC for having lifejackets packed in her luggage - presumably because of the CO2 charge. Anyone know anything about this one ?

simfly
29th Apr 2004, 13:36
Don't know about said incident, but yes, it would probably be because the CO2 bottle is classed as dangerous goods (compressed gas). Life saving aparatus which are part of the aircrafts own equipment (lifejackets/rafts/defibrilators etc) are exempt, therefore someone's own life jacket must be classed as DG's as it's not the aircraft's- make any sense??

crewboi83
29th Apr 2004, 13:38
CO2 is a compressed gass in the lifejacket so yeah its classed as a dangerous good on the aircraft. but its essential we have them on board. A lot of things we carry on the a/c are restricted for passengers, or not allowed at all ie Dry Ice, CO2, Oxygen, and the main one, is BCF's... not allowed to be used on the ground at all, banned, but in the air they are our best bet in fighting fire.

no sig
29th Apr 2004, 16:26
The small CO2 cartridges are OK.

In the IATA DG Manual they are permitted as carry on baggage or in checked baggage: wording as follows

Non-flammable gas cylinder fitted into a self-inflating life jacket:

Two small cylinders containing carbon dioxide or other suitable gas per person fitted into a selfinflating life jacket, plus up to two spare cartridges.

Intruder
29th Apr 2004, 18:13
Fire extinguishers are "dangerous goods," too...

In the IATA DG Manual they are permitted as carry on baggage or in checked baggage

I wonder if the CO2 bottles are restricted by ignorance of the rule, "company policy," or "security" rules...

Sheep Guts
29th Apr 2004, 22:08
Its because, more than likely, they can inadvertantly inflate. So if you were to dishcarge them, empty the bottle then they can be sent. I have to send a Life Raft back to Eastern Areo Marine in Miami (for service) next week and I have to disconect and empty the CO2 bottle before shipping it with FEDEX.

I believe they can send it back afterservicing but it must be disconnected and properly classified with appropriate HAZMAT or DG paperwork.

Sheep

Diverse
29th Apr 2004, 22:21
Maybe the liferaft has to be disconnected because there is a huge difference between the size of a liferaft container and the size of a liferaft. Depending on size it is just as dangerous as the slides of an aircraft if inflated in a restricted space.

Looking at our dangerous goods stuff you would be allowed to take a co2 inflating lifejacket on board with one spare co2 cylinder.

Flap Sup
30th Apr 2004, 04:39
Sheep Guts,

If you send a inflatable lifejacket as bagage, its not DG, if you send it as cargo, it is...
The philosophy behind must be the same as regarding booze; Its DG as cargo (RFL), while allowed when taken as bags/handbags.

/FS

604guy
30th Apr 2004, 12:14
In a similar vein, in this country, first aid kits are classed as DG. The person(s) in the receiving department and stockroom must have dangerous goods training/certification to handle said first aid kits. Once they are installed in the aircraft though they become "part of the aircraft" and are then exempt. Oh, and what is the item that triggers the DG classification? That little bottle of hydrogen peroxide.