View Full Version : Bmi Longhaul (man) Recruiting!!!!!!
flymeagain 24th Jan 2004, 23:57 Just to let those of you know who might be interested. BMI are looking for crew on there longhaul program out of man. They are looking also for in-flight Chefs!!!
For crew, you need to be 5'2 and 6'2, at least 19yrs old and have the right to work in the U.K. together with full UK national insurance no. In addition you must have at least 4 GCSE at grade A-C including English and Maths with 12mths customer experiance and live within 1hrs drive from the airport. For the chef you must hold a food hygiene cert together with NVQ level 2/3 professional catering qualifications or BTECNational Diploma in Hotel and Catering management.
They are recruiting internally at the mo in preparation for the new Man - Toronto service due to be announced this week. But they won't get enough crew as they can't afford many crew from other bases as they are very short at LHR especially!
I can tell you that as a junior on the longhaul you probably take home more than BA junior crew on Longhaul. Including allowances you can take home between £1,000 and £1,800. this is obviously based on the amount of trips you do in a month which avarages at about 4-6, that includes one back to back.
The inflight chef just works in "The Business" cabin and is quite cushy, with them taking home the same wage as a Flight Supervisor Grade 2.
If you want to know anymore then just ask. But I can tell you that we do have a great laugh and get paid, well probably the best in the industry at the mo. plenty of holidays and great people to work with.
GOOD LUCK!!!!!
You can send your C.V. to;
Cabin Crew Recruitment,
Stockley Close,
West Drayton,
Middlesex,
UB7 9BL
OR
e-mail cabincrew.recruitment@<hidden>
CLOSING DATE FOR APPLICATIONS 2ND FEB!!!!
UFGBOY 25th Jan 2004, 00:04 One assumes that no SCCM positions are available?
Cheers
flymeagain 25th Jan 2004, 00:23 flight supervisors on the longhaul programe are promoted from within. sorry!!! but junior crew do make very good money!!!!
Little Blue 25th Jan 2004, 01:35 U know, after 15 years with bmi,,,I reckon it's time I took to the skies !!!
U got room for an ops-monkey, up there in Manch?
;)
djsdb 26th Jan 2004, 21:15 Hello all. I'm a forum newbie and very interested in the bmi recruitment drive. Can anyone tell me if the positions at MAN are likely to be seasonal or perenant. Also, could there be a chance that successful applicants would be put on bmi baby or is that a seperate recruitment programme altogather.
Thanx guys.
Tiger 27th Jan 2004, 04:20 mmm.....not sure about bmi crews earning more than Main Crew at BA on long haul. [main crew is much nicer than junior crew]
Short haul Main Crew LHR based earn those figures as quoted by "fly me".
bmi are ALWAYS short at LHR due to poor £, and T&C.
May I also warn of an Incharge Crew Member based at MAN ex BHX who bulled and intimidated crew with lies.
Even after I left that company this person tried to slag me and others down who tried to stand their ground. A double BRU was bad enough- a transatlantic? Christ! :{
Little Blue 27th Jan 2004, 04:59 hmmmmmmm..
wonder who that could be ?!!!!
Heh heh
;)
flymeagain 27th Jan 2004, 05:03 Tiger. i didn't write what did without knowing the facts!!! BMI longhaul crew do earn more than Ba crew (most of the time) who are on the new contracts! as for the sca that your talking about (I know who it is) I can only say that it is a pleasure to fly with them!!! Maybe the problem wasn't on there side?????????
My friend has applied for bmi however she is slightly overweight, does anyone no if they weigh you at your interview?
Thanks
jbird11 27th Jan 2004, 23:15 Does anyone know if it is just longual or if you are expected to do some short duties also. If so how many short trips to you get and how many long haul trips do you get? is it possible to commute?
mytdc10 28th Jan 2004, 01:15 Hi
What long haul do BMI have? I know theres a Washington, Chicago and there will be a Toronto. So if you are on Long Haul is that all the flying you do or is it mixed with short haul?
Tiger 28th Jan 2004, 01:55 fly me. Whilst I don`t doubt your intelligents, whether new contract or not I`d be interested to see these allowances and how they are being worked out. I don`t do WW and have no intensions of doing so. But on LHR SH new contract the allowances come out with the figures you quote.
If bmi pays this sort of dosh, would BA crews not be jumping ship as bmi crews do to join BA???
As for the person I`m talking about ...then you must have known that they were like that as well ie.. as I described huh???!!!!
I take it you were in the "Fan Club" then...I just find it a little odd that I leave a company, and I have NEVER experienced anything like that again. So I somehow doubt problem was on my side. Even after I left this person started up about me....Pleasure to fly with or not...who cares? It aint me! :cool:
Hey! Now I have B/TEC Hotel Catering Management, plus a few more Training Qualifications [gathered since well away from bmi]...shall I apply for this? mmm :p
Could anyone give me any information on the inflight chefs, what are the wages? do you wear a crew uniform?, do you do the same training as crew? Is there a hight and weight ratio for chefs.
How many flights could I expect to do a month, do you do sbys?
Any help appreciated,
thanks
Tiger 31st Jan 2004, 14:43 Certainly interesting to see that user name "something" A2B`s first posting removed their inane rantings about me...Now on pprune we don`t name names so I can not and will not name the person. It is unfair and not pleasant. But I have a little feeling that the removed posting was by this person. It isn`t nice or pleasant to get named and shamed....but I hope you are not continuing how you were, and hopefully you now know how I felt and a few others did.
Regarding your bitter comment....no I am not and how could I be?
And lack of knowlegde on Aviation and being a dinner lady? mmm :D Naw love you have no idea :)
Now be nice. :ouch:
Well I sent off my CV etc on about the 28th Jan and have heard nothing. So I take it `flymeagain` they dont want to take direct entry longhaul crew. Anymore info would be good. PM me if you have any. Thanxs
TJ747 10th Feb 2004, 06:15 Hi there,
just wondered if there are many differences between working out of LHR or MAN.
is the pay the same,what are the crew like, training etc and what are the chances of moving bases.
How short are they of crew at LHR/MAN and does anyone know what the interviews are like as i have mine on thursday.
many thx in adv for your replies.
cheers
tj747
pilots pal 81 10th Feb 2004, 21:25 :( i also sent off my CV when i saw the post but have also heard nothing. Do you think it is worth calling them to inquire? Have noticed on a couple of the other threads people have interviews on thursday 12/02 and on sunday, is this for the same positions?
would be gratefull of any advice.
ba-user 11th Feb 2004, 00:06 I applied on Friday, then had a call on Monday to have an interview on this Thursday.
pilots pal 81 11th Feb 2004, 01:07 Oh well i guess its better luck next time to me!! Good luck with the interview x
TJ747 11th Feb 2004, 07:00 Hi Pilots Pal,
Message from BA user, just give BMI a call on
0208 990 7861 ask them, dont just give up on it, theymay have just placed your CV somewhere and forgot on it they may ask you to e mail it then call you in thurs.
Good luck
pp BA - USER
pilots pal 81 11th Feb 2004, 21:35 Thanks for the advise. They actually called me this morning to go for an interview on friday!!! A little bit nervous. Will let you know how I get on.
Thanks again
YYC F/A 12th Feb 2004, 00:16 After writing a big long reply, PPrune booted me and I lost the entire message, so here goes writing it all again!
So, I flew for Bmi and also worked for a while on developing the longhaul service, so although I haven't been there for a few years, hopefully this info will help some of you and answer some of the questions earlier in this thread.
Longhaul bmi at MAN is a very different beast from S/Haul LHR. The crew enjoy better pay, better terms and conditions, and all in all they work less, get more time off, have an easier schedule and get paid more even though the cost of living in the NW is far lower than London. Some would argue that CC89 did a great job of getting better T&C for L/Haul but have left LHR and S/Haul in the dust. Certainly that might explain the constant staff shortages at LHR for bmi, and the mass exodus of the best crew everytime BA, NZ etc etc hires. But we digress!
While in theory the company can get L/haul crew to do s/haul flying if operational requirements change, in practice they only do L/haul, working about 4 trips a month, with occasional standbys and some back to backs where you get 24 hours in MAN in a hotel between trips.
In so far as the Chef, the Chef is a normal member of the Cabin Crew, is fully qualified and does all normal initial and recurrent training. They wear the normal C/C uniform, but inflight don 'Chef Garments'. They work The Business galley, and occasionally do some aisle for dessert service etc but that's about it. (at least that was how the service was designed, in practice it may be slightly different). Chef's get a higher payscale than other main crew.
In addition to the Chef there are Flight Supervisors and a Cabin Service Manager on each flight.
The only negative things are that you always stay in the same 2 (now 3 with YYZ) places, and hotels have often been out in the sticks and not downtown which is not conducive to a great layover life. Also, (this may have changed) but bmi doesn't seem to follow any other airline in how positions on aircraft are assigned. The CSM will allocate people, whereas I believe at BA you can pick and choose the door, and therefore cabin and service area in which you work based on seniority. This may or may not be important to you, but worth mentioning.
The plus of bmi, especially at MAN where the pay is pretty good, is that the staff travel is v good. You can have a nominated friend, AND your parents, AND 2 siblings! Also, after certain length of service qualifications you get totally free tickets for all your travel eligibles and even confirmed tix after I think 5 years. Interlines are better than most as bmi has good ZED agreements, so you can fly to N AMerica with AC for about 30 pound each way, and Thailand was about 35/40 pound each way with TG/LH etc.
Things do change, but certainly when I was there, L/Haul crew were enjoying a good lifestyle, and good money, with a decent amount of time off. I enjoyed working for BMI, but being based in LHR, the shorthaul T&C and $$ sucked compared to BA for instance. But if you are happy to move up NW, then I would say go for it. Yes there are some very 'finnicky' CSM's. Some of the dictatorial leadership styles exhibited by some are just not appropriate, and if a CSD or Purser tried that crap at BA or UA for instance, the crew just wouldn't stand for it. But to be fair, most of the crew and Flight Supervisors and CSM's are great, and bmi management is trying hard to get away from 'dictatorial' leadership and promote more team work and a supportive culture.
Good luck with your application and interviews!
:ok:
baboy 12th Feb 2004, 00:23 Great post YYC F/A.
I got my phone call today for an interview on saturday.
Looking forward to it.
Tiger 13th Feb 2004, 19:10 Have to say very fair posting YYC F/A, with many good points made, including positive and the negative feedback on the company on the whole.
Its true that staff travel is excellent with bmi. Unfortunately, its difficult to get over the unhappy times at a certain base with your life made hell by a person. Anyway enough of that...I`m pleased to hear that bmi are working at removing the dictatoral methods by some- although asking about a persons private life then laughing and being nasty and using the information in a vindictive way and lying about the person....is totally unexceptable!
Good Luck to who that enters... ;)
baboy 15th Feb 2004, 16:54 Well I had my interview at Manchester and basically its not what you know but who you know. Out of the 50 people there only 6 got through to second stage,and I know that 2 of them already worked for BMI and knew all the recruitment people there.
Oh well, just wasnt meant to be for me.
Good luck to others who are trying.
And Longhaul manchester is only on a 11 Month fixed term contract with traning on shorthaul fleet aswell.
chrisnutter1 19th Feb 2004, 03:00 baboy, i presume you referred to me when you said 2 bmi crew well i'm employed by regional, which is why i was at the group assessment. Internal bmi applicants can transfer thus skipping the process. Its the same with any airline though that internal applicants will have a higher success rate than external. It is true that the contract is fixed term for 11 months but new entrants will be trained solely on the A330 and if operationally required toward the end of the contract training will be given on the shorthaul fleet. I'm sorry that you feel its not what you know but who, nothing is guaranteed and you'll be pleased to know that the 2 bmi regional crew are yet to hear the outcome!!!
englishflyboy 2nd Mar 2004, 22:17 Hello all
Have just found this thread on here re the bmi recruitment at man. Have just been offered a position but as yet not sure which fleet etc etc.
Just a few questions to see if any body else has been sucessful and if any one knows what is going on and what the course dates would be like etc etc.
Also would be good to hear from anybody currently there who could give some inside info
Good luck to all those who have interviews etc
Thunderbird One 2nd Mar 2004, 22:29 Are they still recruiting for MAN to do long haul?
flymeagain 3rd Mar 2004, 18:53 Englishflyboy, all the new entrants for man WILL be for the longhaul program, all Ill say is take it with both hands, so far the first two cources are at about the 17th march, and the next one starting the week after that., then there are one or two more after that! now I know that the contracts are fixed term, but the chances of you being let go after that are very slim at the mo. the company is looking at either the Carribean aor India (hope it's the first) once the Toronto has finished in Oct/Nov. believe me the money is good, VERY good! and the crew are great to work with, and conditions are great!!!
As for the last post I think that they may still be recruiting but you'll have to be quick.
englishflyboy 4th Mar 2004, 19:27 Thanks for your reply ppruners
Received a call / letter from bmi. Got a training course start day 2nd Apr. Decided to take the job from all the good reports that I have heard about it and so far the company seems very nice.
For anyone that is thinking of applying, I have a friend who has gone for interview today but I am not sure what base or fleet, all I do know is that theyy are in the last phases of recruitment so I am told.
Thanks once again and good luck to those still trying
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