17th Jan 2004, 01:33
In support of the BBC who in their infinite wisdom are broadcasting a musical piece of silence tonight, can I just say....
17th Jan 2004, 01:35
Best thing they've done in a long time. :ok:
17th Jan 2004, 01:47
It's good to see that rests are still a part of music. It's not the notes that make a piece, it's the space between em that gets ya!
Well I've heard of "less is more" but really!
Anyone got anymore information on this?
Who's the "composer"? :p
How much will it cost for the CD? :p
Will I be sued for making my own identical 4.33 minute silent
Are the musicians on a union minimum wage? :p
So many questions......
17th Jan 2004, 02:12
Well at least the BBC didn't pay some luuvie twat 50 grand to compose it, its been around a long time I think, I remember seeing a tongue in cheek item on it years ago, they should have learned long ago that the world of the arts is indiferent to having the piss taken out of them.
PS Just remembered, I think it was available on Jukeboxes in noisy pubs once, of course what was concidered a noisy pub then would pass for almost tomb like silence now.
Drapes can remember when it was possible to hold a conversation in a pub.
Can somebody trim a bit off their post, so it fits on the page again please?
17th Jan 2004, 02:18
.......the world of the arts is indiferent to having the piss taken out of them.
Or possibly they're too self absorbed to actually get the point.
17th Jan 2004, 02:47
The composer is John Cage. Click here for a detailed insight into the piece:
All a bit Emperor's New Clothes if you ask me.:yuk:
17th Jan 2004, 05:05
From CBC Arts News:-
Music publisher claims copyright on silence
Last Updated 2002-07-08
London - When British composer and producer Mike Batt put a one-minute silent track on an album he was putting together, he didn't expect to get a notice of copyright infringement.
But representatives of John Cage, an avant-garde composer who died in 1992, are claiming that Batt violated the copyright on Cage's 1952 silent composition 4'33''.
Batt put together an album for the Planets, a group of eight classical music protégés, which included variations on several classical pieces.
He added in a track at the end of the CD, called "One Minute's Silence," as a nod to the Cage composition. Batt listed the composer of the silent track as "Batt/Cage" in the album's credits, but that was "just for a laugh," he told London's Independent newspaper.
It was apparently that credit that caught the attention of Cage's publishers.
Batt said he received a letter on their behalf, claiming royalties on the track. Batt said he was "in hysterics" when he read the letter.
When Batt told his mother, he says her reply was, "Which part of the silence are they claiming you nicked?"
Gene Caprioglio, a representative of Cage's American publisher told the L.A. Times that the British organization that collects royalties sent Batt its standard license form.
Caprioglio said the Independent article tries to make the publisher look foolish, but it was Batt, after all, who credited Cage as the composer.
Link to the page (http://www.cbc.ca/artsCanada/stories/silencea020702)
17th Jan 2004, 05:07
Bug*er.. thought the thread was someone bragging about their prowess between the sheets. :bored:
17th Jan 2004, 05:38
(just getting into the spirit of It);)
17th Jan 2004, 06:23
Can't wait for Girls Aloud to do a cover version....
17th Jan 2004, 06:36
Does the composer where a dress?
17th Jan 2004, 06:44
I missed it! Does anyone have a recording of it?
17th Jan 2004, 23:45
I never heard it! Actually I gather it was in three parts. The programme producer reckoned it might last more than 4'33'' to allow for the breaks between parts. "It's a bit difficult to tell how long the breaks are", he said.
18th Jan 2004, 06:56
It's a pity that John Cage, the "composer" of the piece is dead. I'd have liked to invite him to dinner, which of course would have consisted of an empty plate!
18th Jan 2004, 07:26
Presumably he is listening to a eternties worth of his favourite music now then.
18th Jan 2004, 14:33
Back in the Rock n' Roll heyday of juke boxes there was an establishment in Washington DC whose most popular play was 'Three Minute's Silence'.