What on EARTH is all the fuss about? Everyone I've ever spoken to (youngsters admittedly) bangs on about "the craic", or however you spell it. "The Liffy" this and "the Guinness" that. "Oh it's graand, you'll have a roight craic!".

Well b*llocks. I was there for two days recently and all I saw was a DUMP. Depressing grey stone buildings, some of the ugliest brutes you ever saw (including on the flight over and in the hotel WITHOUT EXCEPTION), dreadful taxis, appalling roads, non-stop smoking and the drinking... We drove from the airport to downtown on Sunday evening and, apart from there being more pubs than you could counts on all your fingers and toes, we saw THREE fights and one that had mercifully just finished. The only highlight was the financial buildings we were in the following day- at least we felt safe.

So, go on then, sell it to me...

You just listed all Dublin's best points.

What's there to sell? :E

Seems you fell in with a bad crowd. Next time, get a local to guide you...bit like Tokyo really...best toured with a guide.

So you are a Banker [I think I spelt it right?]
Who doesn't drink, smoke or like a bit of a punch up.
Try Glasgow next time.

May I recommend Newark........:p

Have to agree, a complete and utter hole in my opinion. Don't get me started on the friendliness of the people!

I quite like it!:(

Flat Spin, you're obviously a boring a**hole. If you're there for a good time, it's a great place to go. tell me, did you actually try some of the local pubs, did you go out to eat?

I can say exactly the same thing about London pal, I was in Leicester Square one evening last May and there was the biggest street brawl I've ever seen. And outside "fashionable" London? What a kip! Huge tower blocks and grey boring suburbs. And next time try going to a game of GAA or Soccer, you'll be surprised, there are no mounted police, seperated fans sections or neo-nazi skinheads looking to take your head off.

Don't insult other peoples hometowns if yours isn't up to much either. People in glass houses etc.....

(Now if you were from Sydney, then it would be another matter!)

I have to agree...I quite like Dublin actually, not a big fan of London though. Been to a couple of cracking resteraunts in Dublin which REALLY impressed the ladies I went with. Went once with my brother too and got him nailed at the Guiness Brewery...yeah..nice enough place. Far better than London

I think Dublin roads are a joke. All I wanted to do was get onto the N11 south. could I find a sign? could I b:mad: :mad: ry!
Two hours spent driving around the outskirts of Dublin was not my idea of fun. Such a shame as the road signs around the rest of Ireland are pretty good.
Big thanks go to the workmen who told me to head for Dun Laoghaire or I'd still be there now.

Maybe not the nicest place in the world, but not the worst...maybe Flat Spin caught us on a bad weekend? Either that or he/she fell for the usual tourist guide nonsense...

Anyway, I always tell visitors to head west & visit Galway - a better place for a break & some great scenery out that way too. And it's a bit cheaper than Dublin...

Funny though, all this description of drinking, fighting & all round ignorance...sounds more like Englishmen on a club 18/30 package deal to Ibiza than a weekend here... ;)

(With apologies to all decent English people who don't act like idiots when abroad!)

well, coming from Dublin but not living there anymore, I cannot agree with FlatSpin more. Someone sent me a link to this thread thinking I'd be offended but alas that's not the case anymore.
I was there last weekend and everything he/she mentioned is true - the roads are crap, the place is gray and totally unkept looking, the people are generally rude, the price of stuff is crazy, i don't want to depress myself anymore. On the plus side, it's home and where most of my friends live. Also whatever about the women, Irish men in general are pretty good-looking :D - thank heaven for small mercies - or is that miracles?? :confused:

What can be good about it? Its full of Irish and American Wannabees.

Right that should get the thread going...

..But why is the Guiness over there such Nectar?...
Life holds such mysteries.

Must say I always enjoy visiting Dublin.

Bloody expensive and everyone from barmen to taxidriver having a MOL like attitude and aggression problem...not one of my favourites :oh:

Had a great time in Cork, so if you don't like Dublin try it there instead. :ok:

Can't agree that Dublin is a dump, as has been mentioned, most cities will have punch-ups etc. Perhaps you've never been to Birmingham?:}

It IS expensive though. try out to the west, agree that Galway is one great place, and there are enough pubs in Ennis to satisfy anyone's needs, and a punch-up is hardly ever seen! If you really want to see a good tangle, try Limerick (or Stab City as it's known!):E

Dublin, Belfast, Galway and Cork all feature in my favourite top 10 cities.

Flat Spin:
Go scriosa cúnna ifrinn do thóin bheagmhaitheasach.

Imeacht gan teacht ort

And furthermore
http://www.geocities.com/justanaveragejane/spabdes1.txt

The dining room in The Gresham is one of EU finest, and pubs like Jury's are great, and there are plenty of them.

The women are among the best looking in the world, and the streets are safe.

Blackrock is a fine residential area, with some magnificent hotels.

This pops up every so often, doesn't it? I do think peopl do hype Dublin up into something more than it really is. Sure, great pubs (who hasn't heard somebody rave on about Temple Bar?), great drink, great craic etc.............but the actual city isn't the cleanest (but then same could be said for a few European cities). The roadwork last time I was there was a pain in the @<hidden> Prices are a little high, especially since the Euro came in. I do like the Tokyo analogy, it's very true of Dublin.

Big votes for Galway. Really nice part of the world.

Oh dear

Well I've lived in Dublin all my life so I've a reasonably good insight into the city. Okay I admit it does look like a construction site at the mo, them putting down the tram tracks for the Luas & all entailing half the srteets in the centre of Dublin to be dug up. On top of this the lengthy revaunting of the main thoroughfare, O'Connell Street ain't helping. That stupid yoke of a 'spire' (I won't tell you the filthy names it's been christened, a hobby of Dubliners is to do this with new statues, fountains etc) that they stuck up in the middle of the street soaring into the heavens is a nonentity & was a waste of money IMHO. You can neither climb up or slide down it, infact you can't do anything with it besides stare at it & wonder what the hell the gobsh*tes who opted it as the best design to construct were thinking. Now something on the vein of the BA wheel in London, that would have been a different matter. :D

So what makes Dublin special you ask me. Well for every citizen its different, & for me its certainly not the proliference of pubs & getting pissed out of my tree every night although some pubs do have quite a charm & character which is worth experiencing & like their British counterparts, excellent food. But to me what makes it special is that its close both to the mountains & the sea. One day I can be out doing a coastal cliff walk or sailing or swimming in the sea, possibly having taken the lovely southern route on the Dart (Dublin Area Rapid Transit System) to Greystones or north towards Malahide or Howth, both lovely seaside towns where I can also see the planes come in to land at Dublin Airport & visit nice restauranrs/pubs etc or take a boatride :ok:

The next day I can be walking & cycling in the mountains & viewing the whole of Dublin Bay whjere I was the day before stretching before me or the Dublin & Wicklow mountains on the other side stretching into infinity.

What also makes Dublin special to me is unlike London (a city I like actually & always thoroughly enjoy visiting) it doesn't take an infinity to get out of, just as well cause I don't drive, & frequently rely on pedal power to get me up into the mountains & out to the sea in less that half an hour. Also like alot of its European counterparts it has the sense of history that American & Canadian cities lack (well the ones I've experiencd anyway).

Sorry you didn't enjoy my hometown so much, like every city it has its ups & down, good points & bad points. IMHO to enjoy a city it's what you make of it, you have to do your homework before you visit & suss out the places to go & the places to avoid to make the most of it.

Coco

That's not very polite Smedley.

How do you know Flat Spin's butt is worthless ?? ;)

How about

'Pog mo thóin' then :p

Coco

PS: Boss Raptor, I'll be having a private word with you later :\

I like Dublin, it has alot of history and culture, which is usually what attracts me to cities plus theres lots of loose chicks in Dublin who seem to have a thing for my Scottish accent :} The pubs are fantastic too, great atmosphere and the Guiness is heavenly! It's the real stuff, not the sh!t they import all over the world. My only gripe is the price of things there, infact remember hearing that Dublin is richer than London now. I think every city has it's unique spirit (except Birmingham, what the hell is that about :yuk: ) you just have to find it first.

Seems like Flatspin needs to travel with his parents a bit more if he finds places so intimidating, would have thought youd be familiar with senseless violence however ,as ive been to london before. Id also stay for longer than two days if i was to sum up a whole city. When you turn 18 and feel your ready to face the real world, you should try out the pub scene, theres a great atmosphere and lots of friendly people everywhere, also many many tourist attractions worth visiting

infact remember hearing that Dublin is richer than London now.
The whole of Ireland is in fact richer - and that's 'cos its capital's always dublin'. Boom! boom!

Cork's the best city in Ireland. London's the best city in the world (although NYC's close) and Birmingham is utter, utter bollocks. Anyone who disagrees probably has an unhealthy relationship with farm animals.

Flat Spin...

Don't mean to be rude mate but, who the feck asked you?

If you don't like the place - don't go back.....

Piece of the proverbial piss

:cool:


Coco

Any chance you'd hit Wicklow and just keep on pedalling? I'm getting a bit sick of seeing your drippy P.C. drivel in JB.

Seriously...

FT

The last time I was there, we vacationed in Kerry. marvelous spot. Fishing, golfing, great pubs and restraunts, friendly people, and dynamite redheads and blondes.

The scenery alone is worth a visit.

I'm in Temple Bar now !

Na Na Naa Naa Naaa

Don't miss the film by Salla Tykkä showing today. Next showing the 24th.

besides which the airport is an absolute hoot !

I must admit, I hate driving in Dublin. Now there is a bunch of lunatics who just don't care about anybody else on the road.

strafer
I have to tell that one to my pro-republican mates, hehe :}

Jerricho
You think Dublin is bad for wreckless drivers, try driving in Malta! :uhoh: :{ :\ :*

I think Rome and Tokyo are the worst places to drive, especially the circus's in Rome.

A "reckless" driver will not remain "wreckless" long... ;)

In fact, it's very difficult indeed to be both reckless and wreckless.

Its just the taxi drivers, the government decided that anyones fit to be a taxi driver as long as they walk in with 2000euro in their pocket, now we have all sorts of low lifes and ex cons who think they own the roads. Apart from them the roads are grand, especially in comparison to places like Rome and Greece

Fishtits

No more sick believe you me than I am of seeing your innocuous, forgettable, tripe not to mention your silly, pathetic, pervy username.

Get lost!

Coco

You really should try to get out more...

Maybe try some cycling perhaps?