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ryan2000 17th Nov 2006 14:09

IRELAND WEST AIRPORT KNOCK
 
After the past few months of disappointments at Knock, i,e the withdrawal by Easyjet fromLGW and the subsequent and some would say inevitable follow up closure of the NOC-LGW route by Ryanair it is reported that there may be some very significant good news for the airport for the 2007 season involving a UK based airline.

airhumberside 17th Nov 2006 20:56

Wasn't there a rumour of some LPL-JFK flights by GSM being routes through Knock. Not sure how true they were or if the Ireland-US air service agreement would allow it though

EI-BUD 18th Nov 2006 00:31

Flyglobespan @NOC?
 
it is reported that there may be some very significant good news for the airport for the 2007 season involving a UK based airline.[/quote]

I have heard it that Flyglobespan have been in talks with NOC about possibility of Leeds/Bradford programme and a possible Transatlantic flight, possible twice weekly commencing summer 2007. One flight nonstop and one via Shannon .

This is my first posting to the website , hope some of you find it interesting.

It is very Sad that Easyjet have pulled the route.

I also believe NOC were in talks with Flybe about new routes, but Flybe agreed to services from Galway instead.

SAM-EMA 18th Nov 2006 18:24

FR: NOC-EMA 'a sucess'
 
Hello,

I've noticed that Ryanair have been taking very positive bookings for its new service between Knock and East Midlands. The flight will be operated by an EMA based a/c.

SAM-EMA 18th Nov 2006 21:27

I'm very sorry Hawk, I didn't realise.

Apologies
SAM-EMA

phil_2405 18th Nov 2006 21:57


Originally Posted by SAM-EMA (Post 2973856)
Hello,

I've noticed that Ryanair have been taking very positive bookings for its new service between Knock and East Midlands. The flight will be operated by an EMA based a/c.

How do you know that?

SAM-EMA 19th Nov 2006 10:10

Hi

I found it on Airport News. It is under the East Midlands section.
Here's the link if you want it:

http://www.uk-airport-news.info/

phil_2405 19th Nov 2006 11:11

Cheers SAM-EMA, some good news before the new route even starts :ok:

flyerz111 19th Nov 2006 21:25

Should be interesting when Flybe Galway to Birmingham gets off the ground next spring - are there enough people who want to fly between western Ireland and the English midlands to keep both happy?

sawtooth 20th Nov 2006 11:08

Any word on the infrastructural improvements at IWAK, I believe they were going ahead with the apron/turning pads expansion, moving VOR, moving CAT I ILS to runway 09, CAT II navigation upgrade for 27. Have any of these these projects been completed this year or are they waiting on the government investment package? The ILS upgrade will make the facility much more attractive to prospective airlines, especially if transatlantic links are a possability.


http://www.iaa.ie/safe_reg/pdf/supp/...2006_09_en.pdf

Just a spotter 15th Jan 2007 09:17

Call for military planes at Knock
 

Businessman Ulick McEvaddy has confirmed that he will discuss allowing the US military to use Knock Airport at its next board meeting.
RTE business news, 15th Jan 2007.

http://www.rte.ie/business/2007/0115/knock.html

JAS

sawtooth 24th Jan 2007 13:10

US approve flights from IWAK - JFK
 
According to today's the local newspaper the Flyglobespan LPL- NOC-JFK service is ready to launch bar Irish government approval:

"American authorities gave the go ahead for the new route and it’s under-stood the flights will run direct from Liverpool to JFK from May 25 with the Knock stop-off awaiting Irish Government approval.
Speaking to the Western People, a spokesperson for the airport confirmed that bosses are in talks with Flyglobespan and are hopeful that flights to America will get the nod from the Irish authorities.

“We have been in talks with a number of airlines including Flyglobespan. We have got permission from the US Dept of Transportation and that was a major milestone and we’re waiting for the Irish authorities to give permission. The whole process has taken months.” It is understood Mayor of New York, Mike Bloomberg who visited the airport last year supported the idea."

StephenM_SMC 25th Jan 2007 10:17

All I could get from the Executive summary under the Sligo section was this;

Continued support for Knock and Sligo Regional Airports;
In the full text they had this to say about the regional airports in Ireland;

Regional Airports
The six regional airports in the State — South East Regional Airport Waterford, Farranfore Airport Kerry, Ireland West Airport Knock, Sligo, Galway and Donegal, which are all in private ownership, are eligible to apply for State assistance under the Transport Programme. In addition, the Government has committed \7.5 million to the development of the City of Derry Airport which will benefit citizens throughout the North West region. The key role of regional airports is to complement that of the State Airports and to help promote regional development. A provision of \96.5 million of capital funding will be available under this heading over the period of the Plan. The purpose of the funding is two-fold. Firstly, it will fund existing and future essential safety/security requirements of the regional airports. Secondly, there will be Exchequer support for capital investment in developmental projects at these airports up to 2010, where sustainable demand for additional air services can be demonstrated and where an economic case can be made to justify
increased investment.
In addition to capital funding, subventions are provided to the regional airports for core operational expenditure and to airlines operating public service obligation routes. This is an important regional development intervention and the scheme will continue to operate subject to periodic review. In principle,
the objective should be to promote, as far as possible, commercially viable routes from and between the regional airports.
In the past, support for the development of Ireland West Airport Knock has also been provided under the CLA´ R Programme and the Western Investment Fund operated through the Department of Community, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs. The provision of additional support under these programmes which are encompassed by the Rural Social and Economic Development Programme of the Enterprise, Science and Innovation Priority will be kept under consideration.
Source: NDP 2007-2013 Transforming Ireland Complete Text - National Development Plan (NDP) Ireland
http://www.ndp.ie/viewdoc.asp?fn=/do...13-English.pdf

Devonair 25th Jan 2007 20:59

I believe a press conference is being held in NOC on Monday. BOS and NYC have been mentioned as services from the airport via GLA and LPL.

Charlie Roy 25th Jan 2007 23:12

Glasgow, Liverpool, New York, Boston and military flights!

Cork could learn a lot from Knock! Well done Knock :D

Tom the Tenor 25th Jan 2007 23:42

Devonair, you refer to the flights from Knock to be via GLA & LPL. Flying east first to then head west again out over the North Atlantic? Or is this is how the project be will scheduled to get around the Shannon stopover?

If so, it is surely An Irish Solution to an Irish Problem in the style of Charlie Haughey!?

EI-DHC 25th Jan 2007 23:51


Originally Posted by Charlie Roy (Post 3090037)
Glasgow,:D

Will Globespan be offering the Knock-Glasgow leg of the route for sale seperately aswell?

gaelgeoir 26th Jan 2007 09:54

Stopovers
 

Originally Posted by Tom the Tenor (Post 3090073)
Devonair, you refer to the flights from Knock to be via GLA & LPL. Flying east first to then head west again out over the North Atlantic? Or is this is how the project be will scheduled to get around the Shannon stopover?

The service is planned LPL-NOC-JFK-NOC-LPL under the terms of the U.K./U.S. bilateral which permits intermediate stops subject to the approval of the intermediate State. A similar operation could be permitted via Cork, but then you'd have a Cork stopover as well as the Shannon and Knock versions!

sawtooth 26th Jan 2007 12:29

From the Flyglobespan thread:
"All GSM flights to New York departing Sunday, Tuesday and Thursday will stop at Knock. The aircraft will now land at JFK at 1800 rather than 1530 but departs Liverpool half an hour earlier.
The return flights on Sun, Tue and Thur operate via Knock inbound too arriving at Liverpool at 0845. This applies to the summer schedule only at the present time...

The Glasgow/Boston operates westbound via Knock on Wednesday and Sunday and eastbound on Tuesday and Saturday during the summer period."


I could see this being popular for summer months if marketed well. I haven't experienced Flyglobespan (or any low cost long haul ) yet myself but I'm wondering how attractive these flights will be using a 738 and requiring a fuel stop in St Johns. Not so bad for Knock pax, bit of a rollercoaster for Liverpool though. But if the price is right...

diesel36 26th Jan 2007 15:10

The liverpool flights are all on a 757-200ER so will operate

LPL-JFK-LPL OR LPL-NOC-JFK-NOC-LPL

The Gla-Bos is on a 738 but having seats taken out so it can make it direct

So that will be GLA-BOS-GLA OR GLA-NOC-BOS-NOC-GLA

So no need for stops anywhere


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