Findo

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Joe Curry

Very doubtful if PIK's new carrier forecast bears fruit.

ajamieson

It has nothing whatsoever to do with whether the PIK talks bear fruit.

Sheep fancier

These last few days have turned Mr Joe Curry esq into a very very worried man indeed judging by his ra...., sorry mutterings, on other ng's re GLA's probable upturn in fortunes culminating in a report by the much respected Fraser of Allander Institute which sheds much light on the value of Glasgow International Airport to not just Glasgow's but Scotland's economy as a whole.
This has probably pushed GLA further in front re 'Hub' status for Scotland.
Mind you, if BAA had (or were allowed ?) killed off PIK entirely (I'm glad they didn't though) then GLA wouldn't have had to go through this whole tiresome east v west nonsense.
It's so much better when the boot's on the other foot so I'm told.

ajamieson

Mr Curry has little to worry about.

I was at a Scottish ministerial briefing on the airports strategy the other day and the idea of creating one hub over the other is really not on the agenda, despite the FoA report (which was commissioned by BAA incidentally). What is more worrying is that the most dynamic idea BAA is working on is the lengthening of the taxiways at EGPH; frankly this should have been done ages ago.

Mind you, compared with the state of the Edinburgh Waverley sation rebuilding project (see tomorrow's Scotsman), Scotland's airports are in good shape.

GustyOrange

http://www.theherald.co.uk/business/...-23-50-19.html

Not nice reading for Mr Curry...

ajamieson

Forgive me, but I preferred this version.

bounty

I have been a bit entranced by this idea of ministers "creating" a hub at either EDI or GLA. Surely it is up to airlines to create hubs, not politicians? Hubs are created by basing a/c at an airport and by interlining routes.

The only airport that has an operator with enough a/c at a Scottish airport right now is Ryanair at Prestwick. I don't think they are too keen on interlining, but this is the nearest that Scotland will have to a hub for a long time.

ajamieson

I think the poster who used the word 'hub' originally was referring to the creation of one 'preferred' airport as Scotland's main gateway, rather than the strategic base of one airline.

Not when the airport operator asks for millions of pounds of public money for improvements, transport links, promotional spend etc.

Oh, and there's this, FWIW.

Joe Curry

>>I was at a Scottish ministerial briefing on the airports strategy the other day and the idea of creating one hub over the other is really not on the agenda, despite the FoA report (which was commissioned by BAA incidentally). <<

The BAA commissioned FoA report stated that GLA supported 2K jobs in Edinburgh.? One wonders if the 'findings' in this report has lost past credibility in the FoA's reputation.?

Anyone know any Edinburgh-based GLA employees - except in
EDI's Almond House.?

>>What is more worrying is that the most dynamic idea BAA is working on is the lengthening of the taxiways at EGPH; frankly this should have been done ages ago. <<

Along with the promised new International Pier, ATC tower, multi-
storey car park, full length taxiways etc. etc

Going back to the original poster, will LH now consider new
GLA/German routes given that they will have a budget carrier to
compete with at PIK.?

ajamieson

Mr Curry, might I suggest you don't mix strong coffee with your medication?

As already stated in this thread, any low-cost developments at PIK would have no relevance whatsoever to LH route decisions at GLA for reasons which are made obvious in the original article.

Findo

Joe - maybe I'm missing something here. Ryanair operate out of Prestwick to Frankfurt and will probably introduce a service to Hamburgh. The new low cost carriers are going point to point into Europe and usually for higher volume sun destinations. Logic would say a new Prestwick based carrier would follow that pattern.

What has that got to do with services out of Glasgow to Germany ?

Sheep fancier

"What has that got to do with services out of Glasgow to Germany"

Judging by his posts elsewhere he would like nothing more than to see GLA closed/downgraded so that EDI could gain the prestige of 'TX' flights that he sems to crave so much?
Maybe I'm wrong of course but we'll see.'Fly Local' I say.

P.S. This is the same chap who wants the WCML closed north of Carlisle & routed to Glasgow Central (Scotland's busiest Main Line Termini) via.................Edinburgh.

GustyOrange

Looks like you have taken a bit of a pasting Joe...

Are you going to reply and stand up for yourself ???

Or have you a lot of homework to do ????



edited for typo.

Joe Curry

Pasting.?

Just the sort of reaction one might expect from a forum
full of west coast 'nodding donkeys'.

I stand by my PIK projection as originally stated. :o

Voldermort

To return to the original point, Ive just read the article in last weeks paper and it looks to me just like a very clever DLH advert.Mr Grotepass gets a free article on praising everything about his airline i.e. load factors,profits and connections through the FRA hub while also having a subtle dig at RYR, HHN + PIK.I don't expect to see any DLH a/c at GLA in the near future but maybe a possibility of a Midland E135/145 using a Lufthansa c/s but even that would be enough to provoke Ryanair into a fares war with increased frequencies which I don't think BMI would have the stomach for.However I do hope something happens as it will at least mean more flights,more bums on seats and all for less dosh am I right in thinking that is what we all want to see?????

GustyOrange

Since when was someone from EDI (A Jamieson) a west coast nodding donkey ???

Joe Curry

>>PIK.I don't expect to see any DLH a/c at GLA in the near
future <<

Game, set and match.?

Sheep fancier

Or COA at EDI either

GustyOrange

Or AA or AC. Or even PIA...