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Don't forget the extra fire cover that would be needed. So who picks up the tab would be an interesting question? Would have thought it would be easyjet.
Is the terminal still locked up over night? It used to be 45 minutes after the last arrival but does the airport really turf people out into the night when they have missed the last train home. I would have thought some people would rather wait in the warm for a train the next day.
Most airports seem to have people who are camped out for the night mainly for early morning departures but not Southend?
Is the terminal still locked up over night? It used to be 45 minutes after the last arrival but does the airport really turf people out into the night when they have missed the last train home. I would have thought some people would rather wait in the warm for a train the next day.
Most airports seem to have people who are camped out for the night mainly for early morning departures but not Southend?
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The A320 arrived at SEN 7.15am from STN. It must have flown there from Barcelona early this morning. It is G-EZTM. It had left Barcelona at 02.00am arrived STN at 04.00am
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[QUOTE=LTNman;8925467]Don't forget the extra fire cover that would be needed. So who picks up the tab would be an interesting question? Would have thought it would be Easter'
LTN man: a couple of months ago the fire CAT changed to CAT 4 all night with CAT 6 at 30 min notice (I believe the upgrade staff are already on site). So it seems nighttime Fire cover is no longer an issue.
LTN man: a couple of months ago the fire CAT changed to CAT 4 all night with CAT 6 at 30 min notice (I believe the upgrade staff are already on site). So it seems nighttime Fire cover is no longer an issue.
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Statement from easyjet.
I thought I had read here that delayed flights were going to be allowed to land at Southend but it seems that is not the case. I do remember though that the council had put in place restrictions on overnight flights so maybe that is the reason.
Due to the delay your flight has suffered as a result of the air traffic control restrictions in Amsterdam today we have missed Southend curfews and will now be diverting into Stansted. Our ground staff are arranging coaches to take you onwards to Southend. Please collect you luggage and the staff within the terminal will direct you to where coaches will be waiting for you. We apologise for any inconvenience this may cause you today.
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I'm also surprised that the late arrivals could not now be accommodated at SEN following the revision of the fire cover categories. I'm not sure who pays the cost of such diversions as I recall hearing that in some circumstances it is Stobart in the case of easyJet diversions. I heard that when the RVR is below CAT 1 but above CAT 2 may be one such situation where that applies but I cannot confirm if that is correct.
The Flybe LCY-DUB services on Good Friday using SEN instead seems very odd but little surprises me as far as Flybe are concerned these days.
Edit: LTNman - delayed scheduled flights are exempt from the night flight restrictions.
The Flybe LCY-DUB services on Good Friday using SEN instead seems very odd but little surprises me as far as Flybe are concerned these days.
Edit: LTNman - delayed scheduled flights are exempt from the night flight restrictions.
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Yes they are exempt so that clears that matter up as I have found this on the Southend website so it seems that Stobart said no.
Are night flights allowed?
Yes, but under strict conditions. Night flights are permitted by the Section 106 agreement between the airport and the Councils under strict conditions which place limits on the numbers and types of aircraft which can be flown. A “quota night period” is established between 2300 and 0630.Up to 120 movements may be permitted each month in this quota night period, however, specific rules apply to passenger flights.
The Airport may schedule up to 90 passenger flights in any month to arrive between 2300-2330. Late operating (arriving or departing) flights may also be allowed after 2330 under particular conditions – normally because not to allow them would cause passenger hardship. These are subject to review by the Airport Consultative Committee.
Yes, but under strict conditions. Night flights are permitted by the Section 106 agreement between the airport and the Councils under strict conditions which place limits on the numbers and types of aircraft which can be flown. A “quota night period” is established between 2300 and 0630.Up to 120 movements may be permitted each month in this quota night period, however, specific rules apply to passenger flights.
The Airport may schedule up to 90 passenger flights in any month to arrive between 2300-2330. Late operating (arriving or departing) flights may also be allowed after 2330 under particular conditions – normally because not to allow them would cause passenger hardship. These are subject to review by the Airport Consultative Committee.
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Adria Airways
Schedule (Local times):
Mon: MBX 18:20 - 19:25 SEN (JP162), SEN 20:10 - 23:05 MBX (JP163) - A319
Tues: MBX 18:20 - 19:25 SEN (JP162), SEN 20:10 - 23:05 MBX (JP163) - A319
Thurs: MBX 18:20 - 19:25 SEN (JP162), SEN 20:10 - 23:05 MBX (JP163) - A319
Cannot see the CRJ900 scheduled yet. Perhaps they will use it on days where there is less demand.
Mon: MBX 18:20 - 19:25 SEN (JP162), SEN 20:10 - 23:05 MBX (JP163) - A319
Tues: MBX 18:20 - 19:25 SEN (JP162), SEN 20:10 - 23:05 MBX (JP163) - A319
Thurs: MBX 18:20 - 19:25 SEN (JP162), SEN 20:10 - 23:05 MBX (JP163) - A319
Cannot see the CRJ900 scheduled yet. Perhaps they will use it on days where there is less demand.
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Perhaps they will use it on days where there is less demand.
But seriously........... those timings are clearly aimed at Austrians visiting England rather than the other way around. Good fare level though. I'm definitely tempted......
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That means every day then.
But seriously........... those timings are clearly aimed at Austrians visiting England
But seriously........... those timings are clearly aimed at Austrians visiting England
All involved should be applauded for giving this new route the very best chance of success. The lead in fares are extremely attractive, and the route was launched with a major press conference a few days ago. Media coverage has been significant and positive overall.
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Why be so pessimistic when you don't even seem to know what country Maribor is in?! I think the professional expertise of Adria's team should be given rather more credit. They know their home market.
All involved should be applauded for giving this new route the very best chance of success. The lead in fares are extremely attractive, and the route was launched with a major press conference a few days ago. Media coverage has been significant and positive overall.
All involved should be applauded for giving this new route the very best chance of success. The lead in fares are extremely attractive, and the route was launched with a major press conference a few days ago. Media coverage has been significant and positive overall.
I hope they can make a go of it. It certainly seems quite ambitious to be launching a three times weekly flight, especially when Slovenia is such a small country and Ljubljana is in fairly easy driving distance.
Maribor
the Adria flight seems to represent a market that SEN will be aiming for, a secondary city which can't justify/afford a service in to the bigger LON airports. Definitely a niche worth working.
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OK. I know Maribor is in Slovenia. Certainly there will be Slovenes on the flights, but I'd guess the main demand will be from southern Austria.
As far as the demand goes, as you should be able to see from reading my email, I was only joking. I wish Adria great success; SEN needs it and deserves a change in fortune. Niche routes like this can work.
As far as the demand goes, as you should be able to see from reading my email, I was only joking. I wish Adria great success; SEN needs it and deserves a change in fortune. Niche routes like this can work.
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Due to air traffic control restrictions in Amsterdam earlier caused by high winds.
Seems that Southend now allow a little extra time for late arriving aircraft landing after 23:30 but not more than an hour or so.
Seems that Southend now allow a little extra time for late arriving aircraft landing after 23:30 but not more than an hour or so.
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Difficult time at SEN
The flight from Geneva G-EZBL having problem and circle round SEN then diverted to STN and return back to SEN then circle round then finally landed at SEN. Had it cause by wind. There are some delayed flight at SEN . There is problem with G-EZTM Tenerife flight is return to LGW After it went past west side before end to Southampton Area and redirect to LGW.
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The diversion to LGW of the SEN-TFS flight was due to 'passenger welfare' reasons.
Crosswinds/windshear was the problem for the inbound GVA flight:
29022G43kt 260v330 so not pleasant.
Crosswinds/windshear was the problem for the inbound GVA flight:
29022G43kt 260v330 so not pleasant.
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Thank for information. In my sense why another EZY flight able to landed at SEN without effect them. Oh dear another EZY G-EZAK from Malaga have diverted to STN. It Because of it Runaway is the problem with windy day ? or just of one those day crosswind cause it ? can you clarify me.
Thank for information. In my sense why another EZY flight able to landed at SEN without effect them. Oh dear another EZY G-EZAK from Malaga have diverted to STN. It Because of it Runaway is the problem with windy day ? or just of one those day crosswind cause it ? can you clarify me.
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The runway at Southend is narrower than standard - 37m instead of 45m, therefore (for EZY at least) the crosswind limits are lower than they would be at an airfield equipped with a standard width runway.
On a day like today its the gusts that are putting the wind out of limits, so its a question of luck and timing as to whether you get in or not.....
DH
On a day like today its the gusts that are putting the wind out of limits, so its a question of luck and timing as to whether you get in or not.....
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The runway at Southend is narrower than standard - 37m instead of 45m, therefore (for EZY at least) the crosswind limits are lower than they would be at an airfield equipped with a standard width runway.
On a day like today its the gusts that are putting the wind out of limits, so its a question of luck and timing as to whether you get in or not.....
DH
On a day like today its the gusts that are putting the wind out of limits, so its a question of luck and timing as to whether you get in or not.....
DH