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Old 14th May 2016, 09:33
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It seems that the relationship between Stobart Air and the airports has become more "arms-length" than it was. I believe that EI own the -600s and lease them to STK, which probably dictates a large part of where they operate to. Stobart allowed flyBe to take over the DUB-SEN route, for reasons which were never clear to me. Its strange that they have never resumed the route - unless the aircraft can gain better returns elsewhere.
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Old 14th May 2016, 17:50
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SEN-DUB lost money.
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Old 14th May 2016, 20:18
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Originally Posted by cumbrianboy
SEN-DUB lost money.
You got trend data to support the comment?
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Old 14th May 2016, 20:22
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It seems that the relationship between Stobart Air and the airports has become more "arms-length" than it was. I believe that EI own the -600s and lease them to STK, which probably dictates a large part of where they operate to. Stobart allowed flyBe to take over the DUB-SEN route, for reasons which were never clear to me. Its strange that they have never resumed the route - unless the aircraft can gain better returns elsewhere.
I think they part funded them however may as well own them as they are only for EIR ops. Now that was for the 6 ordered in 2013, since then they have almost doubled the ATR 600 a/c with number 11 been delivered in the last 2-3 weeks. 4 extra aircraft added to EIR within 12 months to take it from 10 to 14.
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Old 15th May 2016, 10:08
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I heard recently that some of Stobart's ATR 72-600s are configured differently than the standard 72 seats, could anyone provide any further information please? Geeky question... sorry!
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Old 15th May 2016, 12:17
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The 3 new 600s (FMJ/K and FNA) are all in 70Y config, the original 8 are in 72Y
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Thanks cumbrianboy, appreciated!
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Old 6th Jun 2016, 15:09
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DUB to EMA, DSA and Cardiff being axed apparently

Stobart Air axing routes between Dublin and Britain - The Sunday Business Post
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Old 6th Jun 2016, 20:36
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Any other source? Doesn't seem reliable.
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Old 6th Jun 2016, 21:21
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It's reliable alright. Those 3 are to cease at the end of October.

I'd imagine BE would pick up the DSA, and the whole reason why EIR have dropped CWL is the whole BE thing.

As for EMA i'm not sure.
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Old 6th Jun 2016, 21:38
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RYR already do EMA
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Old 6th Jun 2016, 22:42
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Isn't the fleet due to be reduced for winter schedule with the retiring of some of the older birds? With that in mind and the cost of constantly having a wet leased 'flying clown' hanging around (currently OY-RUG) it's understandable to cut the more marginal routes.

Perhaps suggests there isn't any plans to add new 42's to the fleet.
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Old 7th Jun 2016, 04:21
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stobarts doing extra rotations ex brs 4 days per week. this starts november 1st
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Old 3rd Jun 2017, 00:19
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Looking on FR24, it appears that the 2 aircraft owned by Jota have been operating for flights sold on the Flybe website but operated under commercial responsibility of Stobart. If I look on the Flybe website, the same route-date-time flight combinations (but over the next 2 week period) are listed as being operated by Stobart Air, rather than Jota. I remember earlier in the spring the Flybe website made explicit mention of Jota as being the operator of these flights

Has something changed in the relationship between Stobart and Jota to cause this to become a drier lease than the previous wet lease, or is this just the Flybe website giving incorrect info ?
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Old 20th Jun 2017, 19:06
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SEN winter schedule shows...

3 new routes from 29 October
SEN-DUB 3x daily (E195)
SEN-GLA 8x weekly (E195)
SEN-MAN 3x daily (ATR72)

3 dropped from 27 October:

SEN-CFR 5x weekly (ATR72)
SEN-CGN 6x weekly (E195/RJ)
SEN-GRQ 8x weekly (ATR72)

Reduced:
SEN-RNS 12x weekly to 7x weekly (ATR72)
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Old 20th Jun 2017, 21:25
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Don't forget new routes to MXP, VIE, PRG, BUD, LYS
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Old 20th Jun 2017, 22:15
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DJ 6

no its just jota doing it on ACMI until Stobart get the EMB on their licence and enough crews to undertake - no real news = its all just timing
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Old 23rd Jun 2017, 22:17
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When are those EMB supposed to be inbound?
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Old 6th Jul 2017, 17:29
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I've bumped the Stobart Air thread up the page for potential discussion of their possible, if any, interest in acquiring Flybe.
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Old 6th Jul 2017, 17:32
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I would say smart move, Stobart have got some interesting players onboard including Warwick Brady who would be more than capable of running a combined airline. Maybe the fresh start and thinking it needs.
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