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I think TOM best chance for seeing new routes at BHX, I can't see HKT but perhaps a couple more Caribbean destinations? The Dom Rep is a big hole, TOM is launching Punta Cana from GLA next summer on the 787. Surely TOM must be evaluating the potential for new routes with the runway being extended at BHX?
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EDI-ORD to launch next summer by UA using the 757. Looks like it's summer only June-Sept but nevertheless exactly the kind of route BHX is crying out for. I thought I had read somewhere that UA weren't going to do any new TA 757 routes?
BHX have done well to recently gain AI and Air Blue but with less than a year to go before the runway extension opens, I hope there will a new 'headline' airline/route to open it with the fanfare it deserves.
BHX have done well to recently gain AI and Air Blue but with less than a year to go before the runway extension opens, I hope there will a new 'headline' airline/route to open it with the fanfare it deserves.
EDI-ORD to launch next summer by UA using the 757.
I honestly fail to see how a short season route from ORD is ever going to work at BHX - now year round business service, that might work, but reckon that an aircraft with some cargo capacity, with BHXs' extended runway, might be preferable to the 757.
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Andrew certainly be a bit tight westbound on a 757 to Chicago from BHX.
Agree cargo on a 767 flt would be preferable, but now AA are in One World doubt they would look at BHX, which is a One World free zone apart from some codeshares with Fly Be.
So would have to be UA and they have heavy premium seat 767s for business routes
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Andrew certainly be a bit tight westbound on a 757 to Chicago from BHX.
Agree cargo on a 767 flt would be preferable, but now AA are in One World doubt they would look at BHX, which is a One World free zone apart from some codeshares with Fly Be.
So would have to be UA and they have heavy premium seat 767s for business routes
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August 2013
Second highest monthly figure but still 30000 short of 2008.
One million pax in a month in double figures.
Air India BHX-DEL-ATQ 7391 with 36 rotations gives 205 pax per flight and a configuration of 256 seats equals a load factor of 80%.
Considering the lead-in was one of the shortest I have ever seen for long-haul I wonder what money went in the till?
Dubai 46565 up 15% not too far from the all time high. 376 pax per flight and as some three class still operated in the early part of the month a load factor of 91%, which is remarkable.
Turkish to Istanbul was up 26% but a modest 117 pax per flight at around 75% load factor.
Newark breached 10K with 10002 up from 9567. Average 161 at 95%!!!!
Turkmenistan dropped from 5597 to 3976 which is just 117 per flight.
Islamabad was up 17% at 7914 but still only around 71% load factor.
BMIR - improvement. Billund 1031 at 26 per flight 53%, Toulouse 1094 at 25 per flight 51% and Gothenberg 1198 at 27 pax or 56%.
Lyon with flybe 4616 at 59 per flight, 79% load factor.
Domestic - easyjet Belfast record 15697 average 138 pax 88% load factor.
Flybe BHD went from 27780 to 23714 so not too bad.
LDY 7012 at 159 per flight or 84% load factor.
Overall some of the highest load factors seen and it would seem that some routes could have done with more seats but I suppose most airlines (other than FR) want to see more than a one month wonder. Slaughtered by EMA on ALC, AGP, PMI and FAO.
Well done to EMA nearly 600K.
Pete
One million pax in a month in double figures.
Air India BHX-DEL-ATQ 7391 with 36 rotations gives 205 pax per flight and a configuration of 256 seats equals a load factor of 80%.
Considering the lead-in was one of the shortest I have ever seen for long-haul I wonder what money went in the till?
Dubai 46565 up 15% not too far from the all time high. 376 pax per flight and as some three class still operated in the early part of the month a load factor of 91%, which is remarkable.
Turkish to Istanbul was up 26% but a modest 117 pax per flight at around 75% load factor.
Newark breached 10K with 10002 up from 9567. Average 161 at 95%!!!!
Turkmenistan dropped from 5597 to 3976 which is just 117 per flight.
Islamabad was up 17% at 7914 but still only around 71% load factor.
BMIR - improvement. Billund 1031 at 26 per flight 53%, Toulouse 1094 at 25 per flight 51% and Gothenberg 1198 at 27 pax or 56%.
Lyon with flybe 4616 at 59 per flight, 79% load factor.
Domestic - easyjet Belfast record 15697 average 138 pax 88% load factor.
Flybe BHD went from 27780 to 23714 so not too bad.
LDY 7012 at 159 per flight or 84% load factor.
Overall some of the highest load factors seen and it would seem that some routes could have done with more seats but I suppose most airlines (other than FR) want to see more than a one month wonder. Slaughtered by EMA on ALC, AGP, PMI and FAO.
Well done to EMA nearly 600K.
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Thanks Olton Pete,
Incredible load factor on the Air India, about 81%.
Emirates at 91% ,if this continues surely must be an A380 next 12 months or less likely a third 77W morning flight.
United have built up to having virtually full planes in summer months. No doubt it could support 10 a week summer only.
Nigel
Incredible load factor on the Air India, about 81%.
Emirates at 91% ,if this continues surely must be an A380 next 12 months or less likely a third 77W morning flight.
United have built up to having virtually full planes in summer months. No doubt it could support 10 a week summer only.
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Monarch winter is their busiest at BHX I think but still disappointing. With East Mids to consider as well I suspect they are trying not to duplicate too much or at least not flood the market.
It is five based but some days only three operate. When I last checked the seat-maps it was 4 x A321 and 1 x A320 but they are fluid with the changes.
Alicante is stuck at four a week one less than EMA
, Malaga is four a week no change, Tenerife gets an extra Friday flight, Venice has gone forv winter, Rome reduced to twice weekly, GIB of course is an extra three frequencies, Sharm is still three up one from last winter, FUE and LPA are as pathetic as ever at weekly but to be fair Ryanair are the same.
They have at least matched FR on Arrecife this winter with three flights. Larnaca is static at two and so is Funchal. Barcelona is also suspended like last winter, which is probably a blessing with FR at four a week.
Faro sees an extra frequency making it three a week.
Nice and Palma are also suspended as usual and the rest are always seasonal.
Ski flights are twice weekly Grenoble but it does increase to four a week at February half-term.
Sunday is the busiest day when Grenoble starts 10 flights - 9 schedule and 1 SKI charter to KTT. Saturday sees 8 flights 7 schedule and GVA IT Ski.
The summer 14 schedule has a couple of gaps but nine based with extra Faro and Dubrovnik but less Malaga's, Palma's and Nice just five a week.
I know they got burnt with Milan and Munich but I thought they might have looked at Prague this winter with Lisbon and Madrid next year but I suppose caution is the word at present.
I know in winter 214 seats is an awful lot to fill and more 320's might be the answer at BHX on the shorter routes.
Pete
Monarch winter is their busiest at BHX I think but still disappointing. With East Mids to consider as well I suspect they are trying not to duplicate too much or at least not flood the market.
It is five based but some days only three operate. When I last checked the seat-maps it was 4 x A321 and 1 x A320 but they are fluid with the changes.
Alicante is stuck at four a week one less than EMA
, Malaga is four a week no change, Tenerife gets an extra Friday flight, Venice has gone forv winter, Rome reduced to twice weekly, GIB of course is an extra three frequencies, Sharm is still three up one from last winter, FUE and LPA are as pathetic as ever at weekly but to be fair Ryanair are the same.They have at least matched FR on Arrecife this winter with three flights. Larnaca is static at two and so is Funchal. Barcelona is also suspended like last winter, which is probably a blessing with FR at four a week.
Faro sees an extra frequency making it three a week.
Nice and Palma are also suspended as usual and the rest are always seasonal.
Ski flights are twice weekly Grenoble but it does increase to four a week at February half-term.
Sunday is the busiest day when Grenoble starts 10 flights - 9 schedule and 1 SKI charter to KTT. Saturday sees 8 flights 7 schedule and GVA IT Ski.
The summer 14 schedule has a couple of gaps but nine based with extra Faro and Dubrovnik but less Malaga's, Palma's and Nice just five a week.
I know they got burnt with Milan and Munich but I thought they might have looked at Prague this winter with Lisbon and Madrid next year but I suppose caution is the word at present.
I know in winter 214 seats is an awful lot to fill and more 320's might be the answer at BHX on the shorter routes.
Pete
Manchester advertising campaign
Looks like the marketing team are moving south to target the Midlands and attract business. What are the BHX team going to do I wonder?
'Fly Manchester' arrives in Staffordshire | Burton Mail Travel |Travel and Tourism News | Holiday and Travel Reviews
'Fly Manchester' arrives in Staffordshire | Burton Mail Travel |Travel and Tourism News | Holiday and Travel Reviews
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You think it's easier to get to LHR than MAN from most of Staffordshire.
Keep taking the medicine !!
Stoke on Trent (for example) to MAN is a leisurely, shortish and often pleasant drive up the A34, off=peak and in a hurry the M6 gets you there in next to no time, whereas LHR ???
You are seriously deluded.
You think it's easier to get to LHR than MAN from most of Staffordshire.
Keep taking the medicine !!
Stoke on Trent (for example) to MAN is a leisurely, shortish and often pleasant drive up the A34, off=peak and in a hurry the M6 gets you there in next to no time, whereas LHR ???
You are seriously deluded.
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Per RAC Route Planner
Uttoxeter or Stafford to Manchester Airport - 1 hour
Uttoxeter or Stafford to Heathrow Airport - 2 hours
Or double......
Although Stafford is only BHX is only 43mins, I was quite surprised that it's is actually 56mins from Uttoxeter to BHX !
Uttoxeter or Stafford to Manchester Airport - 1 hour
Uttoxeter or Stafford to Heathrow Airport - 2 hours
Or double......
Although Stafford is only BHX is only 43mins, I was quite surprised that it's is actually 56mins from Uttoxeter to BHX !
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I can assure you no medicine to take. Obviously staffordshire is a large county and for the most part of course MAN is closest.
From where I am MAN according to Google is 1hr 37mins
To LHR is 1hr 51 mins
To LTN 1hr 29 mins
For what its worth Doncaster Sheffield is also quicker!
But in the real world the M6 is a total nightmare and the journey time is totally unpredictable so I almost always find LHR easier to get to.
All I'm saying is that I live 21 miles down the road from BHX, but for me MAN is No 5/6 by choice. The dynamics between competing airports is complex - even though I live between BHX and EMA the third choice would be LTN. Dont shoot me down!
All names taken: Thanks for the insult, you clearly have issues.
From where I am MAN according to Google is 1hr 37mins
To LHR is 1hr 51 mins
To LTN 1hr 29 mins
For what its worth Doncaster Sheffield is also quicker!
But in the real world the M6 is a total nightmare and the journey time is totally unpredictable so I almost always find LHR easier to get to.
All I'm saying is that I live 21 miles down the road from BHX, but for me MAN is No 5/6 by choice. The dynamics between competing airports is complex - even though I live between BHX and EMA the third choice would be LTN. Dont shoot me down!
All names taken: Thanks for the insult, you clearly have issues.
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Germanwings Summer 2014
Not much change for BHX from Germanwings for summer 2014:
BHX-TXL 6/7, Sundays a shift to a fairly late evening flight which helps weekend breaks.
BHX-HAM 6/7.
BHX-TXL 6/7, Sundays a shift to a fairly late evening flight which helps weekend breaks.
BHX-HAM 6/7.
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MAN to Birmingham on the M6 IS A COMPLETE NIGHTMARE !!!
Done it 8 times in 4 months dropping my daughter up to and back to Salford .
Each time severe delays, 40MPH speed limits, accidents,roadworks, animals on motorway, heavy rain delays. Been forced off 6 times out of 8 before Stoke each time heading south.
Last Sunday took up 7.5 hours return and yet again forced off this time at J19 ,even then sat in a massive queue on the A road, fortunately able to see some departures from MAN to stem the boredom.
Then hit severe congestion again south of Stoke and approaching Birmingham.
pSo good luck Manchester with this one, I would rather walk through a minefield than traverse this route
Nigel
MAN to Birmingham on the M6 IS A COMPLETE NIGHTMARE !!!
Done it 8 times in 4 months dropping my daughter up to and back to Salford .
Each time severe delays, 40MPH speed limits, accidents,roadworks, animals on motorway, heavy rain delays. Been forced off 6 times out of 8 before Stoke each time heading south.
Last Sunday took up 7.5 hours return and yet again forced off this time at J19 ,even then sat in a massive queue on the A road, fortunately able to see some departures from MAN to stem the boredom.
Then hit severe congestion again south of Stoke and approaching Birmingham.
pSo good luck Manchester with this one, I would rather walk through a minefield than traverse this route
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BUT Nigel if you live in Stoke the same hassle applies to M6 Southbound. Just North of Birmingham the M6 is completely clogged with road works where the new gantrys are going up. There is no escape here because coming off means traversing Birmingham City centre.
You can take the toll road of course which I personally prefer despite outrageous cost and quite a detour.
If heading North you can at least route via A34 Congleton without much trouble, certainly won't take 7.5 hours !
Living in North Staffs you can of course route Ashbourne, Leek Macclesfield, a glorious run......
You can take the toll road of course which I personally prefer despite outrageous cost and quite a detour.
If heading North you can at least route via A34 Congleton without much trouble, certainly won't take 7.5 hours !
Living in North Staffs you can of course route Ashbourne, Leek Macclesfield, a glorious run......
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Staffordshire marketing campaign
Marketing is a very expensive operation and its aim is clearly to attract business.
While MAN clearly has Emirates sown up perhaps the 'battleground' here is the Asian market as it affects India and Pakistan. BHX has stolen a march on MAN with Air India coming in initially X4 each week; and now with Air Blue coming in within days could it be that MAN wants more of a slice of this cake - at the expense of BHX?
While MAN clearly has Emirates sown up perhaps the 'battleground' here is the Asian market as it affects India and Pakistan. BHX has stolen a march on MAN with Air India coming in initially X4 each week; and now with Air Blue coming in within days could it be that MAN wants more of a slice of this cake - at the expense of BHX?
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MAN to Birmingham on the M6 IS A COMPLETE NIGHTMARE !!!
Done it 8 times in 4 months dropping my daughter up to and back to Salford .
Each time severe delays, 40MPH speed limits, accidents,roadworks, animals on motorway, heavy rain delays. Been forced off 6 times out of 8 before Stoke each time heading south.
Last Sunday took up 7.5 hours return and yet again forced off this time at J19 ,even then sat in a massive queue on the A road, fortunately able to see some departures from MAN to stem the boredom.
Then hit severe congestion again south of Stoke and approaching Birmingham
Done it 8 times in 4 months dropping my daughter up to and back to Salford .
Each time severe delays, 40MPH speed limits, accidents,roadworks, animals on motorway, heavy rain delays. Been forced off 6 times out of 8 before Stoke each time heading south.
Last Sunday took up 7.5 hours return and yet again forced off this time at J19 ,even then sat in a massive queue on the A road, fortunately able to see some departures from MAN to stem the boredom.
Then hit severe congestion again south of Stoke and approaching Birmingham
I too have been traversing the M6 a fair few times lately, as part of a journey which takes in the M25-M40-M42-M6 toll-M6-A roads to Cheshire as part of a move to the area.
In a total of about 21 return journeys so far (commuting), I have only had severe delays once (going north just after the Stafford North junction, cant remember the number).
Only once have I been directed off (southbound at the A500 through stoke due to roadworks on the M6, and it was 0300 to be fair).
Ive now got Cheshire-London down to about 3 hours on a good day, 5 on some of the longer days, but its certainly never taken me 7.5 hours to travel Brum-Cheshire, never mind on the regular occurrence you seem to be facing.
It would be interesting to know your travel patterns, as a one off issue is one thing, but to have issues 6 times out of 8, like I say, that's some pretty rotten luck!