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Our passenger growth could create in excess of 243,000 jobs in the region according to a new report by the West Midlands Economic Forum.
– Paul Kehoe, Birmingham Airport’s CEO
– Paul Kehoe, Birmingham Airport’s CEO
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LIS, PRG, BUD
Destinations to capital cities that would surely raise Brum's profile in those respective countries.
What were the loads / yields like on those services last year?
Destinations to capital cities that would surely raise Brum's profile in those respective countries.
What were the loads / yields like on those services last year?
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Haven't a clue about yields but the loads for August 2012 were:
LIS - 86%
PRG - 91%
BUD - 92%
Obviously peak season but generally I believe the loads were pretty good. The problem is finding the right airline.
CSA have tried BHX-PRG before and pulled out and they seem to be shrinking all the time. Wizz would be the obvious choice for both PRG and BUD if it weren't for their LTN base. As for LIS, BHX didn't appear in Ryanairs proposed new base which would leave us with TAP; they're MAN route seems to be doing well, the fly LGW too which means they look to places other than LHR and as a member of Star Alliance their could be some back up there.
Having said all that, I think all three routes could work well for MON; LIS and PRG would definitely have been a better bet than MUC.
LIS - 86%
PRG - 91%
BUD - 92%
Obviously peak season but generally I believe the loads were pretty good. The problem is finding the right airline.
CSA have tried BHX-PRG before and pulled out and they seem to be shrinking all the time. Wizz would be the obvious choice for both PRG and BUD if it weren't for their LTN base. As for LIS, BHX didn't appear in Ryanairs proposed new base which would leave us with TAP; they're MAN route seems to be doing well, the fly LGW too which means they look to places other than LHR and as a member of Star Alliance their could be some back up there.
Having said all that, I think all three routes could work well for MON; LIS and PRG would definitely have been a better bet than MUC.
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LIS/PRG/BUD/LYS/GOT
BMI Regional have loaded the Lyon and Gothenburg into GDS.
Not bookable on their website as yet but not particularly good news for BHX re Lyon, as it shadows the flybe service.
Toulouse will be the first out but not yet loaded with Lyon departing BHX 11.45 (85 mins after flybe) arriving back 15.35 BM1431/2.
Gothenburg departs 16.30 arriving back 21.15 BM1441/2
FR- - Hopefully
RealFish/chinapattern
Prague was probably the best out of the three with load factors very rarely dipping below 75%. Yields I imagine were soft at times, I managed to fly on Baby for £167 for four in the Easter Holidays but this was several years ago.
Lisbon the second time round seemed to have much more expensive fares compare to when it first operated.
Budapest I considered flying on last October/November, again in the school hols and the fare was £75 return and that I would say was about £20-£30 higher than term-time fares and this probably explains why it was chopped despite great load factors. However I can't say I keep track as much as I have done in the past of FR fares due to the nature of their website.
Pete
Not bookable on their website as yet but not particularly good news for BHX re Lyon, as it shadows the flybe service.
Toulouse will be the first out but not yet loaded with Lyon departing BHX 11.45 (85 mins after flybe) arriving back 15.35 BM1431/2.
Gothenburg departs 16.30 arriving back 21.15 BM1441/2
FR- - Hopefully
RealFish/chinapattern
Prague was probably the best out of the three with load factors very rarely dipping below 75%. Yields I imagine were soft at times, I managed to fly on Baby for £167 for four in the Easter Holidays but this was several years ago.
Lisbon the second time round seemed to have much more expensive fares compare to when it first operated.
Budapest I considered flying on last October/November, again in the school hols and the fare was £75 return and that I would say was about £20-£30 higher than term-time fares and this probably explains why it was chopped despite great load factors. However I can't say I keep track as much as I have done in the past of FR fares due to the nature of their website.
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BMIR Birmingham flights
The new Birmingham BMIR flights are now loaded into Amadeus
Mon-Fri BHX-TLS 0700 0950 BM1421 ER4
Mon-Fri TLS-BHX 1020 1115 BM1422 ER4
Sun BHX-TLS 1145 1435 BM1421 ER4
Sun TLS-BHX 1505 1600 BM1422 ER4
Mon-Fri BHX-LYS 1145 1415 BM1431 ER4
Mon-Fri LYS-BHX 1450 1535 BM1432 ER4
Sun LYS-BHX 1440 1525 BM1431 ER4
Sun BHX-LYS 1555 1830 BM1432 (W pattern MAN based aircraft) ER4
Mon-Fri and Sun BHX-GOT 1630 1935 BM1441 ER4
Mon-Fri and Sun GOT-BHX 2005 2115 BM1442 ER4
I was hoping for a Sat TLS flight (all accomodation in Southern France changes on Saturday) for a our family holiday and of course they have planned LYS at a similar time to the new Flybe service.
Still three routes returning! Maybe a tour operator will utilise the aircraft on Saturday? As Inghams plan to do BRS-VRO on Saturdays.
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Mon-Fri BHX-TLS 0700 0950 BM1421 ER4
Mon-Fri TLS-BHX 1020 1115 BM1422 ER4
Sun BHX-TLS 1145 1435 BM1421 ER4
Sun TLS-BHX 1505 1600 BM1422 ER4
Mon-Fri BHX-LYS 1145 1415 BM1431 ER4
Mon-Fri LYS-BHX 1450 1535 BM1432 ER4
Sun LYS-BHX 1440 1525 BM1431 ER4
Sun BHX-LYS 1555 1830 BM1432 (W pattern MAN based aircraft) ER4
Mon-Fri and Sun BHX-GOT 1630 1935 BM1441 ER4
Mon-Fri and Sun GOT-BHX 2005 2115 BM1442 ER4
I was hoping for a Sat TLS flight (all accomodation in Southern France changes on Saturday) for a our family holiday and of course they have planned LYS at a similar time to the new Flybe service.
Still three routes returning! Maybe a tour operator will utilise the aircraft on Saturday? As Inghams plan to do BRS-VRO on Saturdays.
Daza
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LYS
Don't want to be negative before the first flight has even taken off but can't believe that two flights to LYS will work going within just over an hour of each other. Who will be first to blink? I think BE had already planned the route but were wrong footed when BM made their somewhat surprise announcement about BHX routes
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Birmingham-Lyon
GayFriendly wrote
Chinapattern wrote
I have to agree! Absolutely crazy! Which makes me agree with you Gayfriendly, one or the other knew of the schedule being planned. By the end of the Summer Birmingham could once again be without a Lyon service if both struggle.
Midland_pilot wrote
One I believe though they do pride themselves on being the UKs most punctual airline (see their website)
...can't believe that two flights to LYS will work going within just over an hour of each other
As if often the case with BHX, double or nothing!
Midland_pilot wrote
Not a lot of margin for error there - 1 or two airframes?
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Germanwings
Have various bookings over next few months on BHX-HAM.
Today received an email from LH in German, subject: "Important information about your flight to Hamburg" advising me that flights from HAM will start to change to the new 4U-concept as of the end of March. Whether that means BHX-HAM will be changed then, or later, is not clear from email.
Today received an email from LH in German, subject: "Important information about your flight to Hamburg" advising me that flights from HAM will start to change to the new 4U-concept as of the end of March. Whether that means BHX-HAM will be changed then, or later, is not clear from email.
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Summer 2013
Some changes
flybe seem to be removing a 195 and sending it to EDI with a 175 coming the other way. This means the first EDI departure from BHX goes from 118 seats to 88, as does the 14.45 departure and the 18.35 departure.
A bit of a surprise considering the fares charged and load factor. This will be similar to the Glasgow capacity but EDI carries several thousand more pax a month.
The one 195 also goes BHX-BHD-BHX-JER-BHX-MXP-BHX-BHD-BHX on a Monday and Friday from June. Increase in utilization is obviously on the menu.
One 175 goes BHX-GLA-BHX-LYS-BHX-GLA-BHX-GLA-BHX.
Still ten sort of based and the flybe/SN BRU aircraft, which leads me on nicely to Brussels.
This has changed yet again with SN2047/8 now showing as Tyrolean along with SN2049/40. SN2050/37/38/49 flybe leading just 2045/6 as the RJ100.
Pete
flybe seem to be removing a 195 and sending it to EDI with a 175 coming the other way. This means the first EDI departure from BHX goes from 118 seats to 88, as does the 14.45 departure and the 18.35 departure.
A bit of a surprise considering the fares charged and load factor. This will be similar to the Glasgow capacity but EDI carries several thousand more pax a month.
The one 195 also goes BHX-BHD-BHX-JER-BHX-MXP-BHX-BHD-BHX on a Monday and Friday from June. Increase in utilization is obviously on the menu.
One 175 goes BHX-GLA-BHX-LYS-BHX-GLA-BHX-GLA-BHX.
Still ten sort of based and the flybe/SN BRU aircraft, which leads me on nicely to Brussels.
This has changed yet again with SN2047/8 now showing as Tyrolean along with SN2049/40. SN2050/37/38/49 flybe leading just 2045/6 as the RJ100.
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Aer Lingus Regional expansion
Aer Arann extends Aer Lingus deal until 2022 - RTÉ News
Basically having a night stop Dublin using the ATR and making DUB 6 daily!
Every little helps
Barry
Basically having a night stop Dublin using the ATR and making DUB 6 daily!
Every little helps
Barry