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Supposing for a moment that for whatever reason there was a significant or complete reduction by Alitalia at Linate which is slot congested, how would the slots be distributed? Would they simply be auctioned off to the highest bidder? What is the process at slot restricted airports in the case of a large number of slots becoming available?
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Can I ask where you got this info from ? Do you have a link ?
I have just made a dummy booking for April 2018 and still showing LHR not STN.
And hope you don't mind I copied it to the Stansted thread hoping for more info
I have just made a dummy booking for April 2018 and still showing LHR not STN.
And hope you don't mind I copied it to the Stansted thread hoping for more info
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Rather arrogant and stylish carrier, similar in manner to the country Alitalia used to represent. Overpaid staff, diffident attitude to high-paying pax, silly pensions and benefits, but a poor legacy carrier in terms of ability to deliver. In fact, AZ provided the opening for low-cost carriers both in Italy and now all over Europe. An opening that was so easily exploited.
As for AZ now, just look at their very questionable safety record, their poor if not abysmal customer relations, their bloated bureaucracy. And yet it is still somehow in existence. Let AZ try their luck at STN. Maybe serving Ciampino, Bergamo, Beauvais. For sure an Italian government will pour yet more taxpayers' money into them.
But really, shouldn't they be permitted to go bust?
And then replaced by a proper airline without the abominable legacy.
As for AZ now, just look at their very questionable safety record, their poor if not abysmal customer relations, their bloated bureaucracy. And yet it is still somehow in existence. Let AZ try their luck at STN. Maybe serving Ciampino, Bergamo, Beauvais. For sure an Italian government will pour yet more taxpayers' money into them.
But really, shouldn't they be permitted to go bust?
And then replaced by a proper airline without the abominable legacy.
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Even MOL says that the process of selling off the remaining assets of Alitalia has been open and transparent. Unlike Air Berlin.
RoyHudd is not the only poster who finds it impossible to believe that Italian government would follow proper procedure.
RoyHudd is not the only poster who finds it impossible to believe that Italian government would follow proper procedure.
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So far as I am aware the slots that AZuse at LHR currently leased from Etihad
Who previously purchased them in return for a €60m lifeline.
If AZ is being sold off , perhaps EY want to sell the slots to recoup some of their cash from the failed investment.
This would leave AZ or successor no option than to relocate to another London
Airport.
Who previously purchased them in return for a €60m lifeline.
If AZ is being sold off , perhaps EY want to sell the slots to recoup some of their cash from the failed investment.
This would leave AZ or successor no option than to relocate to another London
Airport.
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AZ don't need to relocate to another London airport. They have an existing operation at LCY, if they're still around in the months and years to come they should focus on that. They'd be shielded from the locos and if they really wanted to feed any hypothetical long haul operation at MXP there's nothing to stop them adding a few flights each day to complement LIN.
I doubt they even particularly need LHR.
I doubt they even particularly need LHR.
One thing is the notably high level of landing fees at LCY for their general and connecting fare levels, as opposed to business pax. The E190 used there is of course significantly smaller than the A320 at Heathrow.
Quite apart from any long-haul connections, my experience on AZ from London is they carry a lot of connecting traffic to other Italian destinations through LIN and FCO - Sardinia, Sicily, Brindisi, and other points. There may be services to these points by the LoCos, but AZ can offer multiple departures per day on such connections.
Quite apart from any long-haul connections, my experience on AZ from London is they carry a lot of connecting traffic to other Italian destinations through LIN and FCO - Sardinia, Sicily, Brindisi, and other points. There may be services to these points by the LoCos, but AZ can offer multiple departures per day on such connections.
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EU laws should in theory prevent state revenue proping up a state asset.
However, we're dealing with an EU establishment that is unwilling to stand up to the dominance and down right repugnant behaviours of certain EU member states. The nod wink inner circle is cancerous and lies at the heart of the Commission.
There is of course a legal definition for that type of action.
However, we're dealing with an EU establishment that is unwilling to stand up to the dominance and down right repugnant behaviours of certain EU member states. The nod wink inner circle is cancerous and lies at the heart of the Commission.
There is of course a legal definition for that type of action.
Bankruptcy
As far as I can tell, the bankruptcy process for Alitalia has been put on hold until April 2018 to avoid interfering with national elections
Is my understanding correct and does it therefore mean it is just business as usual for the next 6 months, without the risk of anything nasty similiar to Monarch or Air Berlin ?
Is my understanding correct and does it therefore mean it is just business as usual for the next 6 months, without the risk of anything nasty similiar to Monarch or Air Berlin ?
