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Old 24th Sep 2012, 11:29
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Too near HUY, LBA and EMA for Aberdeen to work, HUY is popular due to the connecting helicopters, no helis at DSA
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Old 24th Sep 2012, 12:40
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Easyjet tried it for about 9 months but couldn't make a success of it.Why would anyone else want to try again if Easyjet couldn't make it work?
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Too large an aircraft , Didn't they use an a320 ?
If BMIR use an EMB135 it might work better
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Old 24th Sep 2012, 17:28
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The timings were poor for the Easyjet flights to AMS. And most of the reason of negative growth at the airport is because services are being pulled. The flights that do operate are well used if press statements are to be believed.
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Old 25th Sep 2012, 12:49
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Apart from the AMS flights, the DSA load factors were quite good for EZY
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Old 25th Sep 2012, 21:38
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Cessna opens Citation service centre in UK

Looks like Cessna have opened their first UK Citation service center at Doncaster.

Cessna opens Doncaster Citation service centre - Corporate Jet Investor

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Old 25th Sep 2012, 21:54
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Using existing Kinch facility - wonder whether they will continue to service competitor's aircraft (Beech KingAir)?
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Old 26th Sep 2012, 15:04
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Kinch had a high number of bizjets in but with the rebranding to Cessna I think there will be a much higher volume coming through...
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Old 11th Oct 2012, 15:20
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Any more prophecies Timmy? Now Flybe have confirmed next summer....

Still nothing in the paper. Wizz, Thomson and Flybe staying, increase from Thomas Cook.

Work now starting on the link road.
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Old 19th Oct 2012, 18:58
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Certainly.
Hearing Thomson are wanting to axe their winter schedule.

Could be partly backed up that the Paphos flight has now been axed, with no flights out on a Wednesday now.

Aircraft is being utilised elsewhere.

Mark my words, it will be closed in 3 years.
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Old 19th Oct 2012, 19:19
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TimmyW - it seems surprising that Thomson would axe their winter schedule when the clocks go back and the winter season begins less than 10 days away. Perhaps you could provide something a little stronger to back up what you've heard ?
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Old 19th Oct 2012, 20:11
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This was direct from a Thomson crew member.
Seems strange that days later the Paphos route is axed. Seems the aircraft can be better used elsewhere which was the reason I was given too.
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Old 19th Oct 2012, 23:53
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Hearing Thomson are wanting to axe their winter schedule.


Timmy try these guys. Hearing Aids, Hearing Test & Hearing Problems | Specsavers Hearing Centres


Seems strange that days later the Paphos route is axed


Odd then that you can book flights in March 2013 on a erm, sort of a Wednesday sort of day.


In my experience, (rather than using my invisible mates piece of toast that says 'Thomson Cancel' when you shine an unlit torch through it), these flights, are often a sign of a reasonable comittment between the parties concerned.
Thomson Flights


Just remind us when Wizz start at Manchester?
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Old 20th Oct 2012, 00:14
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You'll find Paphos doesn't operate November through to March. So what exactly is the aircraft going to do on a wednesday in those months?

The airport isn't sustainable. Anyone with half a brain can see that.
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You'll find Paphos doesn't operate November through to March. So what exactly is the aircraft going to do on a wednesday in those months?
Thomson had an aircraft at DUB in the summer that didn't operate Monday to Thurday.

Its more cost effective for TOM to ground the aircraft. Its paphas in winter its not exactly ACE, TFS where they are worm. You saving airport charges, fuel costs as well as crewing. One day not operating dosn't mean they are leaving DSA. I bet there is other bases in the UK where aircraft do operate on selected days.
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Old 20th Oct 2012, 09:48
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Timmy, let me just remind you what you said.

Hearing Thomson are wanting to axe their winter schedule
So now you're 'owned' by a Thomson crew member who is privvy to the full commercial intentions of the TUi group, despite the Thomson group having a clear bookable schedule throughout the Winter at DSA.

If the airport isn't sustainable, why does my source tell me theres more cargo coming?

Why has Cessna, who lets face it, are probably more commercially aware than yourself, come out with this statement?
Joe Hepburn, Cessna senior vice president, Customer Service, said: “Our European customers have been asking for modernization and paint capabilities.

“Our announcement this month of new Citation Service Centres in Spain and now the UK means we can now offer these services for the more than 1,070 Citations currently operating in the region. We are extremely excited about the benefits these facilities will deliver for the region’s Citation fleet.

“The location of the Doncaster facility has been popular with our European customers and the centre has a proven record of high-quality customer service.”


With your proven track record of 'epic fails' whom should we believe more?, you? or a multi billion dollar company who already have been measuring up their site for increases in capacity? You know, a company already advertising for new staff Looking for a career in the Aviation Services industry? | Kinch Aviation Services


Oh, by the way, this is what your mate at the Doncaster Free Press had to say about it ...
Aviation firm brings jobs hope to Doncaster - Business - Doncaster Free Press
Note the picture too, another 'epic fail' from Timmys 'quality' sources.

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Old 20th Oct 2012, 13:00
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Well Timmy is right in saying that the passenger stats for DSA are not good reading at the minute.

Thomson's have dropped there Wednesday flight to Paphos. This will leave the airport with just 1 flight operating on a Wednesday this winter. , It surely dose beg the question as to what might happen if Thomson’s new base up the road at LBA out performs DSA next summer?
Ryanair have nothing on sale for this winter where as they operated flights to Tenerife last year. And still nothing on sale next summer yet from DSA, but its known that ryanair are normally late at releasing there summer schedules. So there is still hope that both the GRO and TFS routes could be retained for next summer.
Flybe have reduced the Jersey route from 3x to 2x weekly next summer season.
Wizz Air now look to be staying at DSA. But they have reduced some frequencies on some routes this winter compared to last year’s offerings.
Thomas Cook will increase there offerings next summer with extra 2nd weekly flights to both PMI and DLM along with a new route to NBE.

So it’s not all doom and gloom on the passenger flight front. Even though we know it could be a whole lot better. The fact that DSA can now also boast at having the new Cessna Citation Service Centre on site which is the only one in the UK is good news and it should do well.
No Cargo movements are planned at the moment, but hopefully DSA might gain more Cargo movements when the economy picks up, but they will have stiff competition from both EMA and MAN
Oh lets not forget Vulcan 558 will be operating for 1 last season next year as well.

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Old 20th Oct 2012, 13:07
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I know from reading the DSA thread that anything that TimmyW says is not taken seriously by most of you but a Cessna Service Centre and extra cargo will not sustain the airport.The only way to make the airport sustainable is more passengers through the terminal which means more flights and additional routes.The question is how does the airport achieve this.The general trend at DSA at the moment is on a downward spiral.
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Old 20th Oct 2012, 18:45
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TOM aircraft not flying 1 or 2 days a week is not unusual at a regional base, NCL, CWL, EXT also has no flights on a wed, BOH wed & sat.
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Old 20th Oct 2012, 21:38
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The facts speak for themselves.
The number of passenger routes are declining year on year. No new routes (barring one or two from Thomas Cook) are being added. Airlines are not interested in operating from DSA. Link road or no link road, it isn't going to make a difference.

How can a passenger airport survive when on some days there will be one departure? It can't.

If anyone can suggest how or when this situation will change then go ahead, but the facts speak for themselves.
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