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Old 4th Mar 2012, 07:44
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Talking EIR Bumpy landing


ATR 72-212 EI-SLN had a rough landing at DUB yesterday!
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Old 4th Mar 2012, 23:56
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Have heard some news due this week.
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Same here, tomorrow Tuesday apparently. Something about the RE/EI link. Not sure what though.
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Old 5th Mar 2012, 21:24
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Good news hopefully?
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Old 5th Mar 2012, 21:38
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On another site someone claims that the new Dublin - Southend route will be announced tomorrow. Perhaps that's the news.....
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Old 5th Mar 2012, 22:38
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Expect Aer Arann to confirm it will no longer operate its own services and will entirley operate as Aer Lingus Regional, also like above Dublin to London-Southend route to be announced.
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Old 5th Mar 2012, 22:58
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Will Belfast be in the announcement?
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Old 6th Mar 2012, 08:20
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Well the DAA have confirmed on twitter that Aer Lingus Regional will be operating a 3 time daily flight to Southend
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Old 6th Mar 2012, 08:27
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Southend to Dublin by Aer Lingus Regional

This should be a winner, even in these difficult times. It will offer people in south east Essex (and there's over a million of them) the benefit of new U.S. Customs and Immigration pre-clearance facilities at Dublin Airport, allowing them to arrive in America as domestic passengers, saving valuable time and hassle on arrival. Providing the fares are competitive this should stop a lot of journeys around the M25 to LHR.....
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Old 6th Mar 2012, 08:51
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3x daily sounds a lot though.

It's more than is offered to Cardiff.
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Old 6th Mar 2012, 09:02
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Yes, but Cardiff isn't London. Southend can probably pull passengers from the East End away from LHR and LGW ás well as drawing passengers from its over one million immediate catchment area, and there should be a good demand from Irish passengers seeking easy and rapid transit to London via SEN's new facilities. Pricing will be vital.

Time will tell.

Cardiff is a great city to visit, by the way!
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Old 6th Mar 2012, 09:03
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Cardiff probably could warrant a third daily rotation and it has had it at times but its a difficult market with Bristol a stones throw away. Southend is serving a lot of east anglia and london market and if you are going to look viable as an alternative to say stansted then two flights a day just won't do it.
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Old 6th Mar 2012, 09:43
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Does this mean that EI will then have some level of ownership of RE? Hopefully EI will have more involvement in the maintainance of the ATR aircraft.
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Aer Arann to base an aircraft in SEN to operate DUB.

SEN-DUB - 07.00-08.45 - DUB-SEN - 09.15-10.50
SEN-DUB - 12.55-14.40 - DUB-SEN - 15.10-16.45
SEN-DUB- 17.10-18.55 - DUB-SEN - 19.20-20.55

Operated by an ATR 42.
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Old 6th Mar 2012, 12:08
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Seems to look like there could be one or two filler routes in there after the 1st & 2nd rotations.

Going to the comments about the Cardiff route.

Cardiff had 3 x daily Dublin by RE/EI for a few years along with a 1 x Daily Cork and at the beginning of the Cardiff operation a Galway & Lorrient.

Cardiff could and does warrant a 3 x daily Dublin service which will allow more opportunity to connect with Aer Lingus traffic at Dublin. RE/EI has been changing the schedules around for many a year from Cardiff. Take it now for isntance Mon-Thu the last flight from CWL is at 20:45 Fri & Sun is 16:35 Sat 11:35

I am glad to say however that from the summer the schedule will be fixed Mon-Fri.

When the RE/EI franchise agreement was announced they offered times which were very convenient for business traveller to allow a full day at either city and with 3 x daily it allowed for the leisure traveller to have a dinner time flight along with the business traveller only needing to go either direction for a meeting etc.

RE/EI have no competition for such routes at CWL compared with the competition they have with Ryanair at BRS meaning that they will have to charge less from BRS to offer reasonable fares. (Lower Yield). At CWL they can maintain their normal ticket prices and attract a (Higher Yield).

Maybe the ATR72 is slightly too large for 3 x daily but certainly the ATR42 will be ideal for the route. Also RE/EI could bring back the ORK route which did quite well for leisure travellers especially since the ferry service from Swasnea to Cork has now terminated.
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Old 6th Mar 2012, 14:56
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sen/usa

any idea when tickets go on sale for the SEN/DUB/USA route,have tried end of may but can only get as far as dublin
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Old 6th Mar 2012, 16:54
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Originally Posted by mathers_wales_uk
Seems to look like there could be one or two filler routes in there after the 1st & 2nd rotations.

Apologies if I have misunderstood what you're saying, but do you mean between arriving in SEN at 10.50 and leaving again at 12.55?

Let's see, allowing a 25-minute turnaround:
Arrive SEN 10.50
Depart SEN 11.15, arrive XXX 11.40
Depart XXX 12.05, arrive SEN 12.30
Depart SEN 12.55...

A destination 25 minutes block time from SEN?
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Old 6th Mar 2012, 19:31
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A destination 25 minutes block time from SEN?

Ostend/Bruges? (97 miles, although I believe this to be highly unlikely...)

http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=SEN-OST&M...X=540x540&PM=*

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Old 6th Mar 2012, 19:45
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How will this impact sky handling if re becomes 100% aer lingus branded. will they still do ramp coaching dispatch etc or will that go to ei??
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Old 6th Mar 2012, 19:47
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The 1st Sen rotation to Dub will have pax ready to tx onto the EIN 105 for JFK leaving at 10:45. The 2nd flt to Dub pax will be able to catch the EIN109 to JFk leaving at 17:00 I think.......I'd say they might get good loads for atlantic traffic.?
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