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I do think that Stobart will use the Aer Arann AOC to start a new brand to launch flights from SEN. The Aer Lingus Regional brand wouldn't work well with their plans. Plus Aer Lingus might not approve.
It might not be the announcement tomorrow but i do see it happening at some point. Tomorrow is probably just a few route frequency increases and maybe a new route ( Southampton etc )
It might not be the announcement tomorrow but i do see it happening at some point. Tomorrow is probably just a few route frequency increases and maybe a new route ( Southampton etc )
The Stobart Annual Report, published last week, was explicit as to the company's intentions for Aer Arann.. From Page 37,
<Phase 2 will be to replicate the Aer Lingus Regional model using London Southend as the UK base and servicing Scotland, Benelux and Northern France. We will target a minimum of 300,000 passengers per annum.>
The accompanying RNS quotes a "focus" on Spring 2014 for these routes, with this comment:
<We are currently understanding route and carrier planning for Carlisle Airport and are aiming to capitalise on the business potential for London-bound traffic, as well as providing an exclusive new in-bound route for some of the Lake District's 40 million visitors each year.>
Separately Stobart have again confirmed their intention to base an ATR42 at Carlisle to, operate CAX-SEN twice daily and CAX-DUB daily, subject as always to the final resolution of planning issues for the airport and distribution centre at Carlisle. Again 2014 is the projected start date. See #540 this thread.
<Phase 2 will be to replicate the Aer Lingus Regional model using London Southend as the UK base and servicing Scotland, Benelux and Northern France. We will target a minimum of 300,000 passengers per annum.>
The accompanying RNS quotes a "focus" on Spring 2014 for these routes, with this comment:
<We are currently understanding route and carrier planning for Carlisle Airport and are aiming to capitalise on the business potential for London-bound traffic, as well as providing an exclusive new in-bound route for some of the Lake District's 40 million visitors each year.>
Separately Stobart have again confirmed their intention to base an ATR42 at Carlisle to, operate CAX-SEN twice daily and CAX-DUB daily, subject as always to the final resolution of planning issues for the airport and distribution centre at Carlisle. Again 2014 is the projected start date. See #540 this thread.
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I agree with Barling Manga and don't think tommorrow's announcement will have anything to do with SEN, other than possibly a fourth daily DUB rotation.
The timing of the statements in the Stobart Annual Report was aimed mainly at boosting investor confidence in the outcome of the company's substantial investment in SEN. While I don't doubt their firm intention to launch new SEN routes, it's probably a few months down the line before any announcements are likely to be made in my view. Obviously SEN needs some airline diversity for the future and it would be a little strange if Stobarts did not take advantage of their majority shareholding in RE in order to provide that.
The timing of the statements in the Stobart Annual Report was aimed mainly at boosting investor confidence in the outcome of the company's substantial investment in SEN. While I don't doubt their firm intention to launch new SEN routes, it's probably a few months down the line before any announcements are likely to be made in my view. Obviously SEN needs some airline diversity for the future and it would be a little strange if Stobarts did not take advantage of their majority shareholding in RE in order to provide that.
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Reading all the reports regarding Re it's clear their entire fleet is committed to EIR for the next ten years, I believe this means EI will decide on route and capacity planning cannot see how Stobarts or more to the point Invesco will be involved but SEN certainly has a future for EI so expansion oh EIR there is likely but westbound rather than eastbound, IMHO.
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Have to agree with the statements regarding brand on these speculated new routes. Aer Lingus will not allow new operations under their brand from Carlisle or Southend or anywhere in the UK to anywhere excluding routes which would operate to Ireland. Also I doubt they're going to use the Aer Arann AOC this is used at present i.e. Callsign and the designator RE for charter services. And as has been said the fleet and new fleet is tied up to committed expansion agreed with Aer Lingus until 2022 so unless Stobart are going to buy further new aircraft.
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Well to be fair that's 50 less folks emigrating or on the scratcher
RE needed to have the further good news get restructured sound future new planes expanding etc etc all helps the profile
Only us sick aerosexuals were expecting more lol but give them credit it's tough out there and they pulled themsle up out of a bad place
RE needed to have the further good news get restructured sound future new planes expanding etc etc all helps the profile
Only us sick aerosexuals were expecting more lol but give them credit it's tough out there and they pulled themsle up out of a bad place
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Full article and video for anyone interested: Aer Arann creates 50 jobs in major expansion of its services - Independent.ie
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Yes, EI-REL is on maintenance in Monchengladbach. EI-FAT needs to get to Dublin sooner rather than later...
EI-FAU is now as it seems on test as F-WWEK
EI-FAU is now as it seems on test as F-WWEK
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Aer Lingus Regionals bussiest weekend on record with over 16,000 passengers due to fly this weekend up 11% on last year and over 1500 will be flying onwards to the US with Aer Lingus.
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Has anyone had any feedback on how PAX are finding the new DUB-MAN/BHX routes where both EIR and EI are operating?
In MAN today, the 18:15 EIR to DUB was delayed for a couple of hours. When the A320 turned up to operate the evening EI DUB service, there seemed to be great disappointment from those delayed thinking that they were on the A320 to then see the tatty old OY-LBH turn up to operate the EIR...setting off later and arriving much later.
It is still quite surprising that people don't realise that those particular flights are operated by EIR.....which again adds confusion regards baggage requirements.
I think the model is a good idea, I just think that EIR are shooting themselves in the foot operating knackered begged and borrowed A/C on these important routes. Recently we have seen a lot of EI-REH, OY-RUB and OY-LBH out of DUB.
Why couldn't they have waited for the arrival of the new A/C before launching these routes? Why are the 600's taking forever? It is much easier and quicker to damage a reputation than make or rebuild one. Can't imagine EI being happy.
In MAN today, the 18:15 EIR to DUB was delayed for a couple of hours. When the A320 turned up to operate the evening EI DUB service, there seemed to be great disappointment from those delayed thinking that they were on the A320 to then see the tatty old OY-LBH turn up to operate the EIR...setting off later and arriving much later.
It is still quite surprising that people don't realise that those particular flights are operated by EIR.....which again adds confusion regards baggage requirements.
I think the model is a good idea, I just think that EIR are shooting themselves in the foot operating knackered begged and borrowed A/C on these important routes. Recently we have seen a lot of EI-REH, OY-RUB and OY-LBH out of DUB.
Why couldn't they have waited for the arrival of the new A/C before launching these routes? Why are the 600's taking forever? It is much easier and quicker to damage a reputation than make or rebuild one. Can't imagine EI being happy.
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You really aren't happy with EIR, are you?
Ive taken DUB-BHX 3 times in the last month and each time Ive been on -FAS, so no issues.
How are EIR shooting themselves in the foot? Are they doing it the same way EI is doing it by hiring in Titan aircraft to operate routes?
Ive taken DUB-BHX 3 times in the last month and each time Ive been on -FAS, so no issues.
How are EIR shooting themselves in the foot? Are they doing it the same way EI is doing it by hiring in Titan aircraft to operate routes?
