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Old 12th Sep 2017, 23:42   #7001 (permalink)
 
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Well, it's actually in Antrim but anyway.
Its actually in aldergrove, 3 miles south of antrim, its nearer to crumlin than antrim
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Old 13th Sep 2017, 07:30   #7002 (permalink)
 
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Some really good news for BFS via this announcement from EZY:

https://www.easyjet.com/en/worldwide
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Old 13th Sep 2017, 08:09   #7003 (permalink)
 
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I think it is a natural progression. Most of the connections I think will be EZY destinations, although Singapore and USA on the drop down menu.
Wonder what will happen if your flight from BFS is delayed and you miss your connection?
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Old 13th Sep 2017, 08:15   #7004 (permalink)
 
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As long as you have the Gatwick Connections part of the package they will organise and pay for the next flight / hotels etc.
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Old 13th Sep 2017, 08:22   #7005 (permalink)
 
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Great news. If successful and expanded, could we see the likes of connections from Bristol, Newcastle and Liverpool etc through Belfast onto Norwegians services.
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Old 13th Sep 2017, 08:49   #7006 (permalink)
 
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Be good if DY went into the other easyjet bases to offer long haul however can't see it happening as they are using Gatwick as a hub the regional airports like NCL won't be a hub it would be more likely point to point traffic only
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Old 13th Sep 2017, 08:54   #7007 (permalink)
 
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I was suggesting connections from Brs Ncl Lpl etc through Belfast, a large easyJet base with Norwegian transatlantic services already in place.
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Old 13th Sep 2017, 09:20   #7008 (permalink)
 
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Yes great news but the last time i was at belfast there was more bags on the ground than the aircraft, handlers getting a complete pasting at the minute up there
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Old 13th Sep 2017, 15:37   #7009 (permalink)
 
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Northern Ireland posters.

Surely there's no doubt something like this could work for us?

Doesn't NI have a bigger Canadian disapora than Shannon?

https://aircanada.mediaroom.com/2017-09-13-Air-Canada-Deepens-Embrace-of-the-Emerald-Isle-with-Expanded-Non-Stop-Services-to-Ireland-from-Toronto-and-Montreal
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Old 13th Sep 2017, 15:54   #7010 (permalink)
 
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Yes it should work, but not with Air Canada. As they serve Dublin, they probably take the view that we will travel down there to connect to their flights. A service from Bfs would weaken, even a little, their flights from Dublin. So I think it would have to be another carrier.
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Old 13th Sep 2017, 15:56   #7011 (permalink)
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I think you underestimate the mind-share that Shannon has among US tourists and even travel agents. The great-grandchildren of Irish emigrants have a standard tour that they do from Dublin to Kilkenny to Kinsale to Killarney to the Cliffs of Moher to Galway to a flight out of Shannon (or the reverse of that). It's hard for other airports or towns to get a look in.
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Old 13th Sep 2017, 16:00   #7012 (permalink)
 
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I think the last reference was to Canada, not US.
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Old 13th Sep 2017, 16:03   #7013 (permalink)
 
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Yes it should work, but not with Air Canada. As they serve Dublin, they probably take the view that we will travel down there to connect to their flights. A service from Bfs would weaken, even a little, their flights from Dublin. So I think it would have to be another carrier.
Would it be sustainable?
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Old 13th Sep 2017, 16:15   #7014 (permalink)
 
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Yes it should be, we have more of a population than Shannon region. With the smaller aircraft now becoming available, that changes the economics a lot.
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Old 13th Sep 2017, 16:36   #7015 (permalink)
 
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WestJet's B737's have 130 seats, whereas Air Canada's B737 MAX 8's are expected to have 16/153 layout (same as UA B752s), and given the lack of business demand, if anyone is able to make the route sustainable in the long run it'll be WestJet.

WestJet's current B737 transatlantic operations to DUB and GLA require a stop in St Johns/Halifax. There is (albeit limited) demand on St Johns - Dublin and Halifax - Glasgow given historical ties, though there would be no such demand for Belfast.

If WestJet were considering BFS (I'd be shocked if they weren't), they'd probably wait until 2019 which is when their B737 MAX 7's are being delivered, thus allowing BFS-YYZ non-stop.
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Old 13th Sep 2017, 16:51   #7016 (permalink)
 
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So you think Shannon is more sustainable? What about the Bombardier factory?
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Old 13th Sep 2017, 17:07   #7017 (permalink)
 
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The Shannon market is becoming saturated, and there is not room for 8 transatlantic destinations from 6 airlines. Give it a couple of years and some of these routes will be scrapped.

Regarding Bombardier, I know people who work for the company and there are a few employees who regularly fly to Montreal. However a) most if not all of them fly in economy class and not business; b) we're talking fewer than 100 round trips a year; and c) if BFS was to get a Canadian route it would be Toronto and not Montreal, meaning it would not be that much handier for Bombardier employees than flying via LHR or AMS.

It is worth noting however that a couple of years ago Willie Walsh was interviewed about BA's Belfast route, and he said that Toronto (as well as Hong Kong, and Copenhagen) were the most popular destinations for NI connecting passengers. That would suggest that there is potentially some extra demand for a Toronto route.

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Old 13th Sep 2017, 21:05   #7018 (permalink)
 
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Some really good news for BFS via this announcement from EZY:

https://www.easyjet.com/en/worldwide
That might explain why O'Leary had a go at Norwegian last week...!
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Old 13th Sep 2017, 21:53   #7019 (permalink)
 
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That might explain why O'Leary had a go at Norwegian last week...!
I was actually thinking that myself earlier.

Although with media reports of Norwegian looking to sell their leasing arm, combined with them selling their bank shares, he may have a point.
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Old 13th Sep 2017, 22:11   #7020 (permalink)
 
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Interestingly, of the two - Monarch is probably in more imminent danger.
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