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GayFriendly

You are probably right, it's probably more strategical than likely this route will continue non-stop over Winter 12'.
It just seems odd that two airlines will compete from July to September but eh NCE gotta be more profitable than I thought.

..and with low fares starting from 5€, you can't go wrong with this!

chinapattern

Are Monarch grabbing all the ex-TOM/FCA planes then? As the two new units are both A320's I can't see where else they'd be coming from.

OltonPete

Burpbot

The second 175 seems to have changed route but it is difficult to keep up with the changes.

The 175 is due late May at BHX and at present it starts on BHX-STR on1/6/12 but it then changes on 11/6/12 to BHX-GLA replacing the BHX based 195.

This 195 then starts on the current Q400 flight first out on BHX-BHD.

Next two 175 deliveries

Flybe

Therefore the spare 195 remains as it is now spare/stand-by.

Monarch

Very impressive schedule in high-summer with a minimum of 16 departures a day with a high of 19 on a Saturday.

GF - I think Baby operated Nice one winter at twice weekly Tuesday and Saturday but it lasted just the one season.

I would hope for BCN to continue.

Still plenty of rumours doing the rounds but away from the ex Baby routes.

Pete

OltonPete

Monthly passengers figures from the CAA the rest are estimates from using a BHX blog and libhomeradar. However a difficult month with Easter cancellations and libhomeradar having gaps in respect of the data.

Anything with flybe is estimated usually based on expected rotations with some deductions to take into account of Easter.

Schedule flights only with the 2011 figures in brackets if the route has a mixture of schedule and IT pax, with only the schedule pax shown.

AMSTERDAM 42,671 down -2.98 - 104 pax pr flight - 78% load factor
DUBLIN 41,554 down -3.28 - 121 pax - 67%
DUBAI 39,490 down -12.37 - 329 pax - 77%
ALICANTE 26365 (22767) - 155 pax - 83%
PARIS (CHARLES DE GAULLE) 30,171 up 7.42 - 91 pax - 79%
MALAGA 25862 (27477) - 154 pax - 83%
TENERIFE (SURREINA SOFIA) 16075 (16679) - 167 pax - 83%
FRANKFURT MAIN 23,737 down -1.23 - 101 pax - 66%
PALMA DE MALLORCA 13464 (13375) - 143 pax - 75%
FARO 16,765 down -13.43 - 155 pax - 80%
ARRECIFE 8103 (9826) - 169 pax - 84%
MUNICH 13,353 up 23.67 - 85 pax - 73%
DUSSELDORF 13,171 down -2.00 - 47 pax - 55%
ZURICH 11,607 down -5.30 - 68 pax - 69%
ISLAMABAD 10,121 up 0.18 - 298 pax - 85%
LAS PALMAS 6002 (5615) - 167 pax - 83%
PAPHOS 3349 (nil) - 186 pax - 87%
ROME (FIUMICINO) 8,513 n/a 0.00 - 109 pax - 67%
DALAMAN 3409 (2833) - 189 pax - 88%
BRUSSELS 8,366 down -4.03 - 44 pax - 55%
FUERTEVENTURA 4720 (5307) - 139 pax - 69%
ISTANBUL 7,428 up 51.04 - 124 pax - 79%
MURCIA SAN JAVIER 6,982 down -5.64 - 125 pax - 73%
COPENHAGEN 6,979 down -2.21 - 79 pax - 71%
HANOVER 5241 (4641) - 51 pax - 60%
NEW YORK (NEWARK) 6,650 down -23.34 - 151 pax - 89%
LARNACA 5000 (6895) - 192 pax - 90%
GENEVA 4952 (6957) - 138 pax - 89%
CORK 6,371 up 8.33 - 53 pax - 74%
ASHKHABAD 5,629 up 4.01 - 156 pax - 83%
MILAN (MALPENSA) 5,425 up 53.16 - 63 pax - 41%
IRELAND WEST(KNOCK) 5,232 up 33.40 - 109 pax - 73%
GERONA 4,787 up 28.54 - 141 pax - 75%
PRAGUE 4,378 n/a 0.00 - 122 pax - 82%
KATOWICE 4,232 up 42.20 - 163 pax - 86%
BYDGOSZCZ 4,070 down -6.95 - 170 pax - 90%
BARCELONA 3,913 n/a 0.00 - 109 pax - 73%
BRATISLAVA 3,844 down -9.55 - 160 pax - 85%
VENICE 3,592 up 1532.73 - 106 pax - 61%
REUS 3,544 down -0.53 - 136 pax - 72%
NICE 3,438 up 14.07 - 107 pax - 72%
IBIZA 3,392 up 13.18 - 131 pax - 69%
ALMERIA 3,363 up 17.88 - 187 pax - 87%
STUTTGART 2909 (2711) - 34 pax - 43%
RZESZOW 3,001 up 13.85 - 167 pax - 88%
SHANNON 2,976 down -0.30 - 50 pax - 69%
MALTA 2,976 down -36.56 - 165 pax - 87%
KAUNAS 2,870 up 7.73 - 159 pax - 84%
GDANSK 2,587 down -8.03 - 162 pax - 86%
MAHON 2,489 down -15.31 - 138 pax - 72%
BUDAPEST 2,367 n/a 0.00 - 148 pax - 78%
MONTPELLIER 2,308 up 32.72 - 128 pax - 68%
HAMBURG 2,036 up 2.11 - 39 pax - 50%
TRIESTE 1,951 up 2.52 - 108 pax - 57%
LISBON 1,749 n/a 0.00 - 109 pax - 73%
WATERFORD 1,554 up 28.96 - 26 pax - 33%
GRENOBLE 1,192 down -30.25 - 119 pax - 76%
GOTEBORG 1,049 down -14.02 - 26 pax - 59%

Pete

crewmeal

Dubai figures down again. No chance of a 3rd service or an A380 for the foreseeable future.

boeing767

Monarch indeed expanding operations in Birmingham for late S12:

Birmingham – Barcelona NEW 4 weekly service
Birmingham – Nice NEW 1 Daily service
Birmingham – Alicante 3 additional weekly flights
Birmingham – Dalaman 1 additional weekly flight
Birmingham – Faro 2 additional weekly flights
Birmingham – Ibiza 1 additional weekly flight
Birmingham – Malaga 4 additional weekly flights
Birmingham – Palma Malloca 3 additional weekly flights
Birmingham – Rome 2 additional weekly flights
Birmingham – Tenerife 1 additional weekly flight


And for Summer 2013, these routes will be operating on year-round basis:

Birmingham – Barcelona
Birmingham – Funchal
Birmingham – Munich
Birmingham – Nice
Birmingham – Sharm el Sheikh

Monty Gordo

On the basis that it is relevant to airlines operating out of Bhx, are there any rumours as to who might snap up the BMI-baby check-in area at the airport. Would be an ideal fit for Easy if it was to move in with a fresh raft of destinations......

grundyhead

They could save plenty of fuel by swapping 2 B777-300 ER rotations for a A380

nigel osborne

Grundyhead

The big problem BHX has is that it just can't entice enough first or business class passengers.

With Emirates they only needed to fill 4 first class seats and 24 business class seats per flight ,to get the 3 class 77Ws MAN,LGW,GLA,LHR has. Yet obviously EK don't think they can as BHX still flies 2 class.

It is therefore a huge step up to fill twice as many first class and business class seats on an A380.They don't operate any in 2 class.


Nigel

groundhogbhx

No problem in the front of the a/c or underneath, most days. Why do people focus on load factor when it is yield that is important.

GayFriendly

I should imagine MON/ZB would be wanting first dibs on that with the big increase in flights operated this summer onwards? They have a very small check in area at present, I can't imagine it coping that well in high summer, I read that there will be 19 ZB departures on a Sat in July and August.

Much as I would love to agree with you Monty I doubt an vacant set of check in desks will entice EZY to BHX.....I would really like to hear someone in the know from EZY explain why EZY consider BHX to be such a total no go option for either a proper base or to be served from other bases apart from seasonal GVA and year round BFS

groundhogbhx

I wouldn't call 10+ checkin desks dedicated to ZB as a small area.

nigel osborne

Gayfriendly,

Easy Jet are very clear about why they are not interested in a BHX base,and have stated repeatedly that yield is not high enough at BHX.Whether that is true or not, that is their official line.

Nigel

groundhogbhx

You will probably find that the desks will just be de-branded and used just like all the other general desks.

CabinCrewe

The EZY low yield was an excuse used initially at GLA also, but they have quite a developed network now, so I am not buying that....

ATNotts

Nigel

I don't buy the low yield arguement either. On the bucket and spade routes there's no such thing as high yield, nor probably on traditional weekend break destinations, such as Prague, Barcelona etc.

However, I seem to recall that due to the high numbers of inbound business travellers to BHX for events at the NEC and ICC, BA Regional actually had quite a lot of higher yield traffic on business routes. If EZY were to put resources into routes such as CPH, MUC, BER, ZRH (not GVA), MIL, MAD etc with proper frequency (minimum daily) then they would surely get better yield.

Unfortunately, these routes are already served, in the main, by LH and their Star Alliance mates so they would be starting as the new kids on the block, and perhaps, at this tough economic time, they don't want to take the risk.

nigel osborne

ATNOTTS,

Andrew yes I agree re the yield, but thats what they keep telling BHX.It was raised at the last Forum and repeated.

Suppose to make money for BHX full fare airlines probably bring more in than low cost, which is why long term BHX is in a better position to make more money than the likes of STN,LTN on the passenger side..

However thats another can of worms !

Nigel

OltonPete

Contactair F100 showing in various schedules this winter on the Swiss Zurich evening flight 18.15 arrival. Helvetic shown for the other two flights.

After KLM have changed the lunchtime E190 to the 737-700 from 2/7/12 more 737-900's are creeping into the schedule especially on KL1431/32
the last BHX departure to AMS. It seems Monday, Friday and Saturday are going see these quite often adding to the Tuesday KL1423/24.

As ever with KLM things are fluid and I have no doubt things will change.

No sign of easy bringing forward the BHX-BFS or increasing the GVA although baby only operated 2-3 Geneva's and all at the weekend.

Pete

Andrew R

Not impressed by the security at Birmingham airport. We where there on Sunday night (20/05/2012) and the queues were unbelievable. It took about 40 minutes just to get to through security. I also observed the 'security manager' (or whatever their correct term is) let a number of security personal go on a break which slowed things down further.

Some of the staff were also really rude, unhelpful and were basically shouting at passengers if they went through the body scanner too early or forgot to remove liquids from their baggage.

I also observed on an old, very frail women be harassed by security personnel because she set of the body scanner. She was asked by security personnel to lift her foot up which she struggled to do. If that was my mother or grandmother i would be appalled by it.

Some common sense from security personnel would go a long way. Some of those security personnel don't know how easy they have got it.

Never experienced anything like it.

revo

The flybe BHX-WAT services reduces to 5 weekly permanantly from 11th June, with tuesday and thursday dropped

Revo