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A certain amount of Racedo's comments are indeed true. And not completely difficult to fathom.
Budget deficit will take until 2015 to sort - fine. In the meantime we'll have build debts of we'll say 100 Billion. Now considering the amount of cuts we've needed to get down to our current deficit and the amount more to come getting to the lovely place of being able to service and pay pack our loans on our own - well it's a fair distance off.
However, on a more positive note - we can at least see a light - ie it can be done. And no we don't have to print more money. One elephant in the room is as bad as we are I think the UK have their own serious austerity to get stuck into and they can't keep printing money. Of course they can choose to keep doing it and wheelbarrow sales will sky rocket - in order for them to pay for Mars Bars - they'll need wheelbarrows to cart around money.
Looking at Aer Lingus, you wonder, are we perhaps about to see Aer Lingus succeed more than ever? Away from political manipulation, away from subsidies and needing to do things both professionally and commercially.
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A certain amount of Racedo's comments are indeed true. And not completely difficult to fathom.
Budget deficit will take until 2015 to sort - fine. In the meantime we'll have build debts of we'll say 100 Billion. Now considering the amount of cuts we've needed to get down to our current deficit and the amount more to come getting to the lovely place of being able to service and pay pack our loans on our own - well it's a fair distance off.
However, on a more positive note - we can at least see a light - ie it can be done. And no we don't have to print more money. One elephant in the room is as bad as we are I think the UK have their own serious austerity to get stuck into and they can't keep printing money. Of course they can choose to keep doing it and wheelbarrow sales will sky rocket - in order for them to pay for Mars Bars - they'll need wheelbarrows to cart around money.
Looking at Aer Lingus, you wonder, are we perhaps about to see Aer Lingus succeed more than ever? Away from political manipulation, away from subsidies and needing to do things both professionally and commercially.
Regards
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And the more debt a country is in, the more they can be pushed about by the EU and or IMF. On the same day Enda Kenny addresses the nation and says he want to bring sovereignty back to Ireland Sarkozy and Merkel are announcing their intention to sweep it further away! On the point of Aer Lingus, what happened to the new routes that we're to be announced;
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Budget deficit will take until 2015 to sort - fine
Sorry for drifting off topic....
Never in all my life have Iheard such a load of **** being spouted about Ireland than by Racedo.
Really, what is the obsession with running down the country Racedo??
Really, what is the obsession with running down the country Racedo??
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November passengers up an impressive 8.8%, LF also increased.
EI Regional up 30% from 53,000 to 69,000
EI short haul up 7% from 653,000 to 699,000
EI long haul up 4.2% from 72,000 to 75,000
LF increased 3.1% to 75.4%
The October midterm a week lather helped but in general there would of being an increase.
Aer Lingus passenger numbers up in November - RT News
EI Regional up 30% from 53,000 to 69,000
EI short haul up 7% from 653,000 to 699,000
EI long haul up 4.2% from 72,000 to 75,000
LF increased 3.1% to 75.4%
The October midterm a week lather helped but in general there would of being an increase.
Aer Lingus passenger numbers up in November - RT News
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Aer Lingus Regional
Good to see the upward trend in numbers especially with the new yield management strategy in place.
On a separate point, the Aer Lingus Regional numbers look very good especially when compared to the previous year. Does anyone know how much additional capacity has been added since last year? Any ideas on next steps for the partnership?
On a separate point, the Aer Lingus Regional numbers look very good especially when compared to the previous year. Does anyone know how much additional capacity has been added since last year? Any ideas on next steps for the partnership?
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Does anyone know how much additional capacity has been added since last year?
Winter - 2010:
DUB - 2 ATR72
ORK - 2 ATR72
SNN - 1 ATR72
Winter - 2011:
DUB - 3 ATR72
ORK - 2 ATR72
SNN - 1 ATR72
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Plans for Belfast
Just wondering if anyone had heard anymore news on Regional arriving at belfast to replace routes lost by BMI baby.
Also do EI plan to launch any new european routes for the summer? They dont seem to have done much up there recently.
Also do EI plan to launch any new european routes for the summer? They dont seem to have done much up there recently.
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Just wondering if anyone had heard anymore news on Regional arriving at belfast to replace routes lost by BMI baby.
Also do EI plan to launch any new european routes for the summer? They dont seem to have done much up there recently.
Also do EI plan to launch any new european routes for the summer? They dont seem to have done much up there recently.
Great set of Passenger numbers for November.
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Not sure do Aer Arann have any aircraft that could be converted to operate such routes? To my knowledge they still have 2 x ATR72-212 in service but as to being in a fit state to fly under the EI banner maybe another matter. Be great to see them expand at Belfast and it would be a natural next step for them I think. Every time I look at Aer Arann website it gets more green and seems to have more references to EI, maybe as they have been so successful in franchise the RE brand will slip away altogether?
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mart901, I think you are right there, Aer Arann Regional in its own guise only fly a small batch of routes, DUB IOM, DUB KIR, IOM LCY, WAT SEN, LTN MAN....and seasonally WAT Lorient..
So that is in effect 6 regular routes.
Cant see Aer Arann maintaining its own brand in the medium term.
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So that is in effect 6 regular routes.
Cant see Aer Arann maintaining its own brand in the medium term.
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That said, correct me if I'm wrong but EIR does have active ATR72-212's in the fleet? 1 or 2, I'm not sure if the one damaged at SNN ever returned to service? Can anyone shed light on this? I did read the aircraft based at Galway was to be put into storage and with less PSO routes they may be able to free up a 212? One thing I can never quite see is an ATR42 ever flying as EIR, somehow, unless there was a total refit of the cabin, and would that really be worth it? Probably more feasable to lease 72's.
I do believe BFS would be a brilliant base for them to expand on thinner routes and as previously said, fill gaps like LBA and BHX. BFS is well situated to serve lots of areas if not all of Northern Ireland without getting caught in city traffic.
I do believe BFS would be a brilliant base for them to expand on thinner routes and as previously said, fill gaps like LBA and BHX. BFS is well situated to serve lots of areas if not all of Northern Ireland without getting caught in city traffic.
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mart901, I think Aer Lingus Regional only use ATR72 (all 212s) aircraft, ie no 42s. Check jethros.org.uk for specific info (not sure i am allowed to quote sites!!)
BFS has been rumoured on this forum ages ago but nothing happened and the interest was about the time that EZY announced BFS MAN, so not quite sure. I think there are a few routes that could work BHX being the main one, perhaps CWL, though it would be thin. Outside of that as you say LBA, only if LS pull the route as has been rumoured. Perhaps a BRU daily 72 could work though not sure if that would be an instant hit. To my mind not a lot of other opportunities as most other points in GB well served by a Belfast airport, EMA too intense from BHD to make it worthwhile.
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BFS has been rumoured on this forum ages ago but nothing happened and the interest was about the time that EZY announced BFS MAN, so not quite sure. I think there are a few routes that could work BHX being the main one, perhaps CWL, though it would be thin. Outside of that as you say LBA, only if LS pull the route as has been rumoured. Perhaps a BRU daily 72 could work though not sure if that would be an instant hit. To my mind not a lot of other opportunities as most other points in GB well served by a Belfast airport, EMA too intense from BHD to make it worthwhile.
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from what I can tell its 4 x 500's and 2 x 212's but I'm sure one of those 212's was invilved in the incident at SNN. Apart from BFS routes I would imagine EIR could possibly fit into Newcastle, maybe a southwest UK route and maybe LBA all from DUB. I certainly can't imagine what we have now is the end of their expansion. I also think SEN - DUB would be a good one, before anyone else gets a foot in the door.
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Would SEN - DUB not perhaps turn into another bloodbath. Not due to competition on SEN-DUB but simply on LON in general.
BMI have been shrinking a/c, EI's interline helps their figures but there's no interline traffic with SEN. And comparing STN and SEN - kinda the same. So unless RE pick up a cheap 737 or 320 - the economics might not be the best. But of course, the guys in RE already have that one sussed no doubt
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BMI have been shrinking a/c, EI's interline helps their figures but there's no interline traffic with SEN. And comparing STN and SEN - kinda the same. So unless RE pick up a cheap 737 or 320 - the economics might not be the best. But of course, the guys in RE already have that one sussed no doubt
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I think under aer lingus regional branding they could make it work, they have done out of bristol and effectively driven ryanair out of aberdeen, although they would never admit that. I think under the RE brand they would be much more vulnerable, but I think the main cause of a bloodbath would be EZY on the route, something I can't see, but, I also can't see the airport expanding to routes all over europe but not to a main hub like DUB just in case of upsetting MOL. Somebody somewhere in aviation must have some balls! 
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Slightly off topic I know but relating to the last posts; if easyJet don't serve Dublin from SEN, fair assumption to say Dublin wont feature in the easyJet schedule for the foreseeable future.
