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I think Alicante has the right idea on this one.
If you want to use our airport, then you use air bridges. If you don't want to use the air bridges, then you're welcome to go to another airport that meets your needs better.
If you want to use our airport, then you use air bridges. If you don't want to use the air bridges, then you're welcome to go to another airport that meets your needs better.
Like Cork has a huge number of airlines that are beating a path to its door seeking to run services.
25% passenger decline over 5 years suggests otherwise.
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I have no experience of Cork. I have to say that T2 at Dublin is an absolute pleasure to use. Worth every penny.
- When your printed out boarding pass doesn't scan at security you have to trapes down 3 flights of escalators to the Aer Lingus desk.
- At the security check where you put your coins and phones and coats into trays the stations are very short, people can only start sorting themselves out at the last minute. Longer stations would be so much more efficient. They had the chance to design for that and messed it up.
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Mr Roy,
That has never been my experience. I have found it to be a breath of fresh air compared to the cattle market of T1.
My only gripe (thus far) is the poor choice of shops after the US formalities.
As far as airbridges are concerned.....horses for courses really. LoCo's don't want to pay for them...they consider it slows down the boarding/deplaning process anyway.
Cork I suspect is a bit like my own stomping ground and is grateful for ANY services coming their way.
That has never been my experience. I have found it to be a breath of fresh air compared to the cattle market of T1.
My only gripe (thus far) is the poor choice of shops after the US formalities.
As far as airbridges are concerned.....horses for courses really. LoCo's don't want to pay for them...they consider it slows down the boarding/deplaning process anyway.
Cork I suspect is a bit like my own stomping ground and is grateful for ANY services coming their way.
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ORK has one jet bridge at the minute and it is rarely used. If EI were to use it for LHR flights (to begin with) on a consistent basis and were to ask for / commit to use them for other routes there would be some justification, but at the minute EI are not budging and no "full service" carrier uses the airport. If Cork had a service to the US and the likes of LH offering frequent flights to FRA a second bridge could be looked at. Im sure it could be done quite quickly, as all the provisions are there, just a case of acquiring and installing the bridge.
I've only used T2 once and thought it was a great facility, why shouldn't ireland have facilities comparable to the best in the world? T2 is every bit as good as ZRH and head and shoulders above LHR, DXB, etc.
As for the public transport nightmare. CIE have run public transport since the year dot and it took them nearly two decades to implement a common ticketing/fare across Dublin. That says it all, I think.
I've only used T2 once and thought it was a great facility, why shouldn't ireland have facilities comparable to the best in the world? T2 is every bit as good as ZRH and head and shoulders above LHR, DXB, etc.
As for the public transport nightmare. CIE have run public transport since the year dot and it took them nearly two decades to implement a common ticketing/fare across Dublin. That says it all, I think.
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€200 million spent and Cork wants more money !!!!!!
How is it going to pay for itself again ?
How is it going to pay for itself again ?
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Terminal 2 is a good facility but as Müller pointed out in an investor day call, it's lacking simple touches to enhance the ease of use for the airlines and hence passengers. Just a case of Irish lack of attention to detail I think (I'm Irish so pease don't jump down my throat for that comment).
Missing:-
1. Lead in lighting for stands meaning a marshaller is always required.
2. Baggage has to be manually transferred from one belt to another in the US Preclearance area when a belt could've been installed to do this.
3. Pier E was piped for fuel distribution but never connected to the fuel farm meaning tankers driving round the airport loading the fuel instead of simple pumping / metering trucks as used at alot of other major airports.
4. The short term car park was built with just two lifts and there is a queue outside just about every time I have used the car park. Can't imagine this situation will improve much when traffic picks up properly.
Missing:-
1. Lead in lighting for stands meaning a marshaller is always required.
2. Baggage has to be manually transferred from one belt to another in the US Preclearance area when a belt could've been installed to do this.
3. Pier E was piped for fuel distribution but never connected to the fuel farm meaning tankers driving round the airport loading the fuel instead of simple pumping / metering trucks as used at alot of other major airports.
4. The short term car park was built with just two lifts and there is a queue outside just about every time I have used the car park. Can't imagine this situation will improve much when traffic picks up properly.
T2 is architecturally very nice. But as an exercise in efficiency, logic and easily flowing people from point a (Check in) to point b (departure gate) it’s a mess. I suspect that there was little or no consultation with process engineers in its development. T1 wasn’t any better. The current ease of use is more to do with the low passenger volumes than good design.
Like so much is the Irish State area (politicians, government, civil service and semi-states), it’s all about optics; it gives the impression of knowing what it’s about, sometimes even looks promising but fundamentally fails to deliver on doing the basics properly.
I wonder what world leading airports were visited during the design process and what elements of any were seen as worth incorporating into the design. The check-in, go up two flights of stairs to queue at narrowest part of the building in order to get through the bottle neck of security screening and then down levels to the gates area is very impressive.
What's that phrase about organising a get together to a brewery?
JAS
Like so much is the Irish State area (politicians, government, civil service and semi-states), it’s all about optics; it gives the impression of knowing what it’s about, sometimes even looks promising but fundamentally fails to deliver on doing the basics properly.
I wonder what world leading airports were visited during the design process and what elements of any were seen as worth incorporating into the design. The check-in, go up two flights of stairs to queue at narrowest part of the building in order to get through the bottle neck of security screening and then down levels to the gates area is very impressive.
What's that phrase about organising a get together to a brewery?
JAS
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There is invariably a queue for the two lifts to the short term car park - I now use the stairs.
It's quicker and provides exercise!
Admittedly it is not possible to use the stairs if one has heavy cases.
Such basic incompetence by the DAA architects/engineers comes as no surprise.
It's quicker and provides exercise!
Admittedly it is not possible to use the stairs if one has heavy cases.
Such basic incompetence by the DAA architects/engineers comes as no surprise.
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Irish Rail plan still to have the DART connect with the airport. There Rail systems in Irelnad by 2030 was released today. Trains will operate from Cork,Belfast,Galway direct to Dublin Airport as they plan to electrify the rail lines and services can operaete through DART undergound. Although these direct services to Airport will not happen until 2025-2030. Funding is a problem and there would need to be new EMU for this to happen and seen as the current IC tran fleet is very new. The Dart link up from clongriffin is still planned to happen in a few years.
If the direct services to regional cities happen it will be great for airprot acess and services to Cork would take 2h and Galway 1h45. TBH its a plan which may not happen.
If the direct services to regional cities happen it will be great for airprot acess and services to Cork would take 2h and Galway 1h45. TBH its a plan which may not happen.
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Over 1.1 million pasengers in Jan, down 5% on Jan 2011
UK - 475,000 down 5%
Europe -540,000 down 6%
US - 80,000 level on 2011
Middle East - 31,500 up 36%
Domestic - 3,500 down 72%
Latest News > More Than 1.1 Million Passengers In January At Dublin Airport
UK - 475,000 down 5%
Europe -540,000 down 6%
US - 80,000 level on 2011
Middle East - 31,500 up 36%
Domestic - 3,500 down 72%
Latest News > More Than 1.1 Million Passengers In January At Dublin Airport