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Old 22nd Feb 2017, 02:42
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Tis news to a fair few operators of the A380 that SNN can't handle it. €100k's have been spent by Airbus and the likes of BA to prove that it can. It's already facilitated many proven flights for Airbus, training and ground handling for BA not to mention the diversion a few years back where everyone disembarked and were accommodate on other flights.
It was one of something like 1% of the airports that the A380 would fly to or was to be used as a diversion where no mods to the infrastructure was required.

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Old 22nd Feb 2017, 06:54
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Jaysus I remember sure when they spent all that money on the stand for the A380.

Oh wait, they didn't.

There is a fine line between handling and landing. Why do you think every A380 that has landed has parked in a taxiway. Nothing to do with Dublin anyway, so I suggest you stop trolling.
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Old 22nd Feb 2017, 12:45
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Some not so new news as reported elsewhere recently:

* - BA launching weekly IBZ from 19 May.

* - Transavia plan to close MUC base so one assumes MUC will commence and end after a season. FR may look to take their slots.

* - Norwegian expect to confirm routes tomorrow, couldn't see T2 or USPC been used.

* - Qatar will operate from T1 when they start in June.

* - Capacity to Scotland continues to increase with INV increasing from 7 to 9 weekly (x2 Sat/Sun).

* - WOW going daily from 4 June to mid September (x5 last summer), planned from November when daily service resumes.
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Old 22nd Feb 2017, 13:28
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With no pre-clearance, does anyone think Dublin-Stewart can work? Aside from very high season, it's usually possible to get some half-decent fare from Dublin to JFK or Newark and there is certainly plenty of capacity.

Fares will need to be seriously low to tempt people to a far-out airport with poor transport links when they can't even pre-clear in Dublin.
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Old 22nd Feb 2017, 13:54
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With no pre-clearance, does anyone think Dublin-Stewart can work?
Why won't Norwegian use pre-clearance in Dublin? Sorry if I missed this explanation earlier
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Old 22nd Feb 2017, 13:55
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The USPC comment is far from certain but I cannot see it, extra costs, reduced sales on board, schedule restrictions. Just doesn't fit with loco model.

As for fares existing carriers will put the pressure on them to keep then low but think they can work, interesting to see level of repeat business after the hastle getting to NYC...
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Old 22nd Feb 2017, 20:35
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Why won't Norwegian use pre-clearance in Dublin? Sorry if I missed this explanation earlier
To have operate from T2 to have pre clearance, unlikely given current demand that they will.

There is no doubt Norwegian will stimulate demand with low fares, but there are literally 100's of points in the US, and a significant portion of passengers who fly Dublin US are not originating their journey in Dublin or ending it in their first US port of entry, e.g. passengers coming from BHX to DUB and are onwards to EWR, equally pax starting in Denver going to MAN via JFK, so without this connectivity they will need to be consistently very keen on price to develop these new points, it will take some time and resource to get it right.

They are starting flights from Ireland to USA, and the incumbent carrier is probably one of the most experienced airlines on the North Atlantic, who is also ahead of its peers in terms of operating costs. They will get a run for their money, the US carriers in particular will retaliate and are nimble in that regard.

Finally, with them only having 3 aircraft (738's) certified to fly transatlantic, is it likely they will serve all of ORK, SNN, DUB and BFS. My guess would be that DUB will come last. ORK was the headline airport, then they talked about SNN and in the interim the BFS opportunity came along. So hard to see how they will do satisfy all of that with 3 units. They could sweat that asset and increase frequency and fly more than 14/15 hours per day... though unlikely...
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Old 22nd Feb 2017, 20:36
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How is LH983 at 05:30 tomorrow looking at this stage? Many thanks.
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Old 22nd Feb 2017, 20:43
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With no pre-clearance, does anyone think Dublin-Stewart can work?
I'd be inclined to the view that non pre-clearance won't be an issue if you're going into Stewart. Exiting there will probably be quicker than pre-clearance at DUB.
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Old 22nd Feb 2017, 20:48
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It depends though, If Norwegian suddenly channels 4 flights into Stewart all arriving at the same time and the US officials are simply not there to process them efficiently, there could be some eye watering delays getting into the US.
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Old 22nd Feb 2017, 21:10
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Sober Lark, I don't follow?

In regards to wind, you'll be fine.
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Old 22nd Feb 2017, 21:28
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Thanks for answering my question. Much appreciated and apologies for interrupting. SL
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Old 23rd Feb 2017, 10:01
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Hi all, well in anticipation of today's route announcement, I decided to try and book a DUB-NYC flight with DY, only to find that I would be routed through Stockholm. There's not been any route announcement, so I may have stumbled upon another route to be announced from DUB in the near future.

In any case, the proposed schedule is as follows.

4 Sep: DY4468: the 10:20 DUB to ARN
4 Sep: DY7005: the 17:45 ARN to JFK
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Old 23rd Feb 2017, 11:05
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Stewart - daily from 1 July
DUB-SWF 16.00-19.00
SWF-DUB 19.55-07.55

Providence - 5 weekly from 1 July
DUB-PVD 15.45-19.35
PVD-DUB 20.00-07.55

Stockholm - 2 weekly from 9 June
DUB-ARN 10.20-14.00
ARN-DUB 07.55-09.35

US Immigration wouldn't be a problem with these schedules if they wanted it provided staffing is available.
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Old 23rd Feb 2017, 12:52
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What time does the US pre-clearance facility close?
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Old 23rd Feb 2017, 13:09
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16.20 is last scheduled departure so they tend to hold until 17.00 if required.
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Old 23rd Feb 2017, 13:15
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I'm not convinced that DY will avail of CBP in DUB or SNN, if you consider that SWF/PVD and so forth have to handle arrivals from BFS, ORK and EDI as well, then it makes precious little sense to have four or five facilities paid for (I believe the airlines must foot some of the bill) when it can all be centralised in the three U.S. airports.
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Old 23rd Feb 2017, 13:21
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Shannon Pre Clearance will be well closed by the time the Norwegian flights are scheduled to takeoff.
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Old 23rd Feb 2017, 15:19
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Flights from Dublin are already on sale, and Summer fares have already shot up. For the route I would want to take (to Houston), I wouldn't save much at all in summer, and definitely not enough to justify the inconvenience of making the road connection from (say Providence to Boston) at my own time and expense. Looking ahead to Christmas 2017, on the other hand, the quoted fares are looking really good. It's too soon for me to confirm I'll be visiting the USA, though.
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Old 23rd Feb 2017, 20:47
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Well the cheap fares were snapped up, over 5,000 tickets sold earlier between (DUB/ORK/SNN) in 6 hours.
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