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Can Ryanair afford to wait much beyond about late December ? Decisions about where aircraft will be deployed during the summer season eventually need to be made, and presumably once the Xmas season is over, people in northern Europe start to think about booking their summer holiday
Next summer will happen irrespective of ALC.
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Just to give a mention that passengers are not always abandoned -
PMO-STN last night diverted to BHX as the aircraft was only CAT 1 (not the crew) and STN weather was poor. Rather than facing a bus journey back the pax were transferred to the recently arrived KTW-BHX and flown back to STN on
a CAT 3 aircraft. All dealt with within about 90 minutes.
Pete
PMO-STN last night diverted to BHX as the aircraft was only CAT 1 (not the crew) and STN weather was poor. Rather than facing a bus journey back the pax were transferred to the recently arrived KTW-BHX and flown back to STN on
a CAT 3 aircraft. All dealt with within about 90 minutes.
Pete
Pete - sounds like 1 too many aircraft in Birmingham and thus a need to send 1aircraft down to Stansted regardless. Chartering a coach or three would have possibly cost more thn putting the passengers on the repositioned aircraft. Agree that the passengers weren't abandoned, but suspect that this was partly driven by cost and convenience to the airline based on existing obligations
DJ
Possibly or just as likely Easy option A was selected as being the best one rather than waiting hours for a couple of buses and all the hassle that goes with it.
As 1 aircraft too many anyway in BHX, belonging to STN, then shuffling them around is perfectly reasonable.
One of the aircraft would still need to fly to STN anyway so pretty much little cost.
Possibly or just as likely Easy option A was selected as being the best one rather than waiting hours for a couple of buses and all the hassle that goes with it.
As 1 aircraft too many anyway in BHX, belonging to STN, then shuffling them around is perfectly reasonable.
One of the aircraft would still need to fly to STN anyway so pretty much little cost.
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BHX has eleven ryanair aircraft based for a schedule of three
so plenty to choose from
Most move every third day on rotation although I think one
had four to five days off this week.
racedo
Anybody who has diverted into BHX will know coaches are a
rarity at the best of times. If they had a spare crew in PIK
it would have been quicker to taxi them down than wait for
coaches at BHX
Pete
BHX has eleven ryanair aircraft based for a schedule of three
so plenty to choose from
Most move every third day on rotation although I think one
had four to five days off this week.
racedo
Anybody who has diverted into BHX will know coaches are a
rarity at the best of times. If they had a spare crew in PIK
it would have been quicker to taxi them down than wait for
coaches at BHX
Pete
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I think that the Rynair / Alicante El Altet situation will be resolved shortly after the Spanish General Election has brought a change of Government ! > Ryanair Introduce New Routes
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Spanish general election, Ryanair and Mystic Meg
Sunday 20th November. PP win an overwhelming majority.
Monday 21st November Mariano Rajoy picks his team for next four years.
Tuesday 22nd November Mariano submits his massive cuts in public expenditure to Frau Merkel for her approval
Wednesday 23rd November Mariano rings MOL to offer an extra 45M euro to keep the blue and white Boeing planes with the gold harp flying to Girona, Reus, Alicante, Murcia (all 5 airports there) Ceuta, Melilla and La Isla de Perjil.
Well 3/4 is better than Mystic Meg has managed recently.
Monday 21st November Mariano Rajoy picks his team for next four years.
Tuesday 22nd November Mariano submits his massive cuts in public expenditure to Frau Merkel for her approval
Wednesday 23rd November Mariano rings MOL to offer an extra 45M euro to keep the blue and white Boeing planes with the gold harp flying to Girona, Reus, Alicante, Murcia (all 5 airports there) Ceuta, Melilla and La Isla de Perjil.
Well 3/4 is better than Mystic Meg has managed recently.
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From the source above (djfwells):
True.
Could agree.
Receiving just 20 cents per passenger in subsidies, it is obviously of greater importance to the airline to keep operating costs as low as possible
Ryanair´s claim that the estimated 2 Million Euro per year unexpected surcharge was nothing more than a tax imposed to finance a new airport terminal building that was neither requested or required was perhaps justified.
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So maybe a stance against the bullying tactics of AENA is justified, and perhaps only Ryanair can demonstrate to them exactly how the tourist industry dictates the success of many regional economies.
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So maybe a stance against the bullying tactics of AENA is justified, and perhaps only Ryanair can demonstrate to them exactly how the tourist industry dictates the success of many regional economies.
Asking tourist businesses whether they would prefer to be taxed
such that it will attract more visitors into an area
or
taxed so they could pay a distant Govt taxes which gets paid to a foreign bank.
Funny think that answer will be easy.
such that it will attract more visitors into an area
or
taxed so they could pay a distant Govt taxes which gets paid to a foreign bank.
Funny think that answer will be easy.
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The 2 million Euro charge for using airbridges at Alicante represents a paltry 50 cent increase in the price of a fare, so there must be more to this dispute than meets the eye.
It is obvious that MOL wants everyone to know who actually has the real power at Alicante but it may also be to intentionally send a strong message to any other airport thinking of introducing or increasing charges for use of airbridges where walk-on is not an alternative.
If what MOL says that Alicante have imposed the use of airbridges without discussion or agreement and in breach of an agreed contract, then I fully support his stance on this matter, even though walk-on does little to enhance the passenger travel experience when there is an alternative. I fully realise that the Ryanair business model does not give a jot for airport or passenger experiences and this is not a criticism, just a fact.
It is obvious that MOL wants everyone to know who actually has the real power at Alicante but it may also be to intentionally send a strong message to any other airport thinking of introducing or increasing charges for use of airbridges where walk-on is not an alternative.
If what MOL says that Alicante have imposed the use of airbridges without discussion or agreement and in breach of an agreed contract, then I fully support his stance on this matter, even though walk-on does little to enhance the passenger travel experience when there is an alternative. I fully realise that the Ryanair business model does not give a jot for airport or passenger experiences and this is not a criticism, just a fact.
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Dublin to Eindhoven Diverted today and all passengers were told was you were in Maastricht, buses will be along shortly to take passengers to Eindhoven.
Passengers had to check FR flight info to find out it was because of fog,
Passengers had to check FR flight info to find out it was because of fog,
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LPL passengers face grilling when boarding if their hand baggage is close to the limit. Servisair are paying bonuses to the staff to find passangers who are breaching the weight and size limits.
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Well don't tell the EMA servisair girls and boys, I thought Ryanair sold them to the ground agents for £25, so servisair makes £15. Im glad about it, I dont see why some passengers should have bags that are bigger than everyone else. Follow the rules and you wont have to pay.
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i take it that if they are going to be so vigilant that all of the scales, cages and boxes have been verified as being accurate and fit for purpose?
if they arent 100% accurate, then maybe people should pay a pound or two less ;D
if they arent 100% accurate, then maybe people should pay a pound or two less ;D
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"I dont see why some passengers should have bags that are bigger than everyone else. Follow the rules and you wont have to pay."
Fair point, BUT, why does RYR and a couple of others reduce their dimensions by 5cm compared to standard ICAO hand bag size, and on the same type a/c as other carriers who use the ICAO size? Someone will answer, 'because they can'. True, but that is not a satisfactory answer. They are in the customer service industry and irritating your source of income with petty adjustments to standard rules just to trip up innocent pax for a fine. You buy a standard ICAO bag and then get screwed. It has even happened that a pax travelled 1 way with a sensible ICAO compliant LoCo carrier, and t'other way with one of the childish ones. Air rage started at the gate. I even saw ez in MAD do a check at the gate. The wheels of the bag did indeed go into the cage, but had to be manoeuvred, rather than a straight drop in/pull out. Nope, that was going to be an extra 25euros for the hold. Guy kicked and smashed the wheels off in front of some rather disturbed pax. Not a good image.
You also get some more sensible non-UK carriers who allow the cabin bag and sensible laptop/lady's handbag/dutyfree/ as an extra. The 1 bag rule is an unnecessary inconvenience and sensible discretion should be enough. It is the case that a B738 189 seats can not accommodate much more than 150 of RYR's own samsonite bag. What then when the flight is full? Delay code down to themselves.
Fair point, BUT, why does RYR and a couple of others reduce their dimensions by 5cm compared to standard ICAO hand bag size, and on the same type a/c as other carriers who use the ICAO size? Someone will answer, 'because they can'. True, but that is not a satisfactory answer. They are in the customer service industry and irritating your source of income with petty adjustments to standard rules just to trip up innocent pax for a fine. You buy a standard ICAO bag and then get screwed. It has even happened that a pax travelled 1 way with a sensible ICAO compliant LoCo carrier, and t'other way with one of the childish ones. Air rage started at the gate. I even saw ez in MAD do a check at the gate. The wheels of the bag did indeed go into the cage, but had to be manoeuvred, rather than a straight drop in/pull out. Nope, that was going to be an extra 25euros for the hold. Guy kicked and smashed the wheels off in front of some rather disturbed pax. Not a good image.
You also get some more sensible non-UK carriers who allow the cabin bag and sensible laptop/lady's handbag/dutyfree/ as an extra. The 1 bag rule is an unnecessary inconvenience and sensible discretion should be enough. It is the case that a B738 189 seats can not accommodate much more than 150 of RYR's own samsonite bag. What then when the flight is full? Delay code down to themselves.
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The bags will fit under the seat in front. We do allow wheels not to fit into the 'cage'. The problem with the one bag only, inc latop hang bags, some pax were taking the p!ss. Some airports have allow pax to have one bag plus duty free, ive not been to a spanish that dont allow duty free aswell, same as EMA/LPL but BHX does not. I was under the impression that bags that do not fit into the cabin will be put into the hold free of charge and the dispatcher should have some tags at the ready, it only take a few seconds to open the hold and place them in.
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The agreement in both Girona and Reus has been reached today. Ryanair will add new planes and routes to these airports from April 2011. The target: 2-3 million pax annually from Girona, 500.000 pax on the Reus routes.
The agreement has been reached with the Catalonian Genaralitat. The last important condition to be met: AENA may not increase "their already high rates in Girona and Reus", otherwise the draft agreements will be cancelled and the aircraft will be repositioned to other airports with lower costs.
Does BigFrank have any comments on that?
The agreement has been reached with the Catalonian Genaralitat. The last important condition to be met: AENA may not increase "their already high rates in Girona and Reus", otherwise the draft agreements will be cancelled and the aircraft will be repositioned to other airports with lower costs.
Does BigFrank have any comments on that?
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Girona and Reus
Just got some more details. The marketing support for Ryanair will amount to 5.8 million EUR per year in Girona, 3.2 million in Reus. In addition, Ryanair will receive some land (as far as I understand close to the Girona airport) where they can start the construction of a hotel and will be encouraged to erect a hangar at the airport.
It's a deal, only AENA could break it by raising fees.
It's a deal, only AENA could break it by raising fees.
In addition, Ryanair will receive some land (as far as I understand close to the Girona airport) where they can start the construction of a hotel and will be encouraged to erect a hangar at the airport.