Ryanair - 8

[silverhawk]

Ryanair pilots do the flights, there. I thought I had already answered Smith's question because as I said 'Ryanair pay for nothing'

Just in case you are still unable to comprehend, I repeat, Ryanair pilots do the delivery flights. They go to Dublin where Ryanair then remove expensive equipment and send it back to Boeing as it is considered superfluous to a safe operation before the airframe is put on the line. Happy now?

[tabu]

I have no desire to be involved in a great debate here but to be fair - as I understand it - the only equipment that is removed when the aircraft are delivered to Dublin is the HF which is totally superfluous to the vast majority of the Ryanair operation. Hardly a safety issue.

Also I believe that the OFDM equipment (which could be considered to increase safety) is installed after the new aircraft arrive in Dublin prior to their being put on line.

[INKJET]

I would have thought HF was required for flights down to the likes of Lanzagrotty?

[Transportraition]

Aircraft deliveries

........back again ! -

silverhawk - you said Ryanair pay for nothing. I'm sure there is nothing to stop an airline with a multi-million $ order, plus options, with an aircraft manufacturer, negotiating that the manufacturer is responsible for the delivery of each aircraft to an airport of the airline's choice. If agreed, then the airline pays for nothing and the manufacturer's pilots or perhaps contracted pilots fly the aircraft.

Also, you seem pretty good at waffling on about unrelated matters to the subject - first it's toilet rolls and then equipment which has to be returned to Boeing !!! - who had asked about that ????

Anyway, thanks to ' tabu ' we got the answer to ' smiths ' question in one line !

I was quite happy to discuss this via private message but you put it out to the web pages and so I respond in a similar manner.

I'm sending this now so I can be out of the way for a discussion on HF equipment.

Goodbye !

[Coquelet]

Do you really believe Ryanair would pay for Boeing pilots? They pay for nothing.
Remember this is the airline that operates with no toilet paper.

Ryanair pays for nothing, it helps keeping the fares cheap, and that's what the customers want.

The second assumption is quite ridiculous - and a lie.

[silverhawk]

Transpotration

As you well know, you were not happy to discuss this in private messages.

You only used private message because you cannot use the words you used to me on the public forum

[silverhawk]

If you like I can cut and paste your private message.

[silverhawk]

Regarding toilet rolls



Airframe leaves base with one roll per toilet per day. No facility for uplift during the day. 0600 start, 2400 finish, usually 6 sectors.

Tell me again it's a lie!

I refused to fly with no bog roll.

[BALLSOUT]

silverhawk, come on mate, toilet rolls etc are down to the crew. There is plenty at base and it's down to the crew to make sure they have plenty on the aircraft before they leave. I wouldn't fly a long sector without it either, but i allways make sure the cc have got plenty on board before we leave base. These guys flying without it are most likely doing so because it's their fault in the first place!

[silverhawk]

Sorry, but have to disagree.

Directive from Head Office, some tisser called Head of In Flight decreed that only one toilet roll per toilet per airframe be sent per day, no uplifts available from dry stores. Apparently Base Supervisors did have extra supplies in case of emergency, but I know and I saw those locked away in the office (LPL).

[waffler]

but i allways make sure the cc have got plenty on board before we leave base. These guys flying without it are most likely doing so because it's their fault in the first place!


So it's now the Captains job to count the jacks paper before each flight !
Priceless.

Just when I thought you had already reached the bottom ( pun intended )
No doubt Ryanairs brainwashed accountant Racedo will tell us how much this will save annually.

[daz211]

I would not want to use any Airlines loo's never mind their loo roll, I take my own but have never had to use it on any flight anywhere in the world.

Ryanair flights are so short, I dont see why anyone has the need to use the toilet in the first place and If you have a condition that means you use the toilet alot then I would think you would be use to having your own loo roll.

I always pack for anything I need from when I leave the house until I get to my destination.

Loo roll, wet wipes, Snickers bar and bottled water bought after security, is a must for any flight I take with any airline in any country.

Its all about planning ahead for any problem with any Airline.

[silverhawk]

And that my friend is exactly what Ryanair are counting on, so they do not have to provide anything that will cost them money.

[TSR2]

Its all about planning ahead for any problem with any Airline

You cannot plan for every eventuality. Its the unexpected that causes the problems.

[FR-]

Well planned Daz, room in your case for clothes? I think you should come on some of my flights to IBZ or PMI with young lads, beer dont seem to last long in them. Im not sure about all bases but each morning we are given six toilet rolls, but we can always request extra when returning to base, but nine times out of ten, we have extra on board from the day before. I've had pax steal them before, odd . . .

fr-

[Ernest Lanc's]

I try and plan for as much as I can TSR2....I also agree with daz211 that there should be no desperate need to use toilets on short hauls..

Also like daz211 - I have never had occasion to use a loo despite taking my own tissues, supplied tissue is cheap and small.

Silverhawk and TSR2 both have valid points though IMO....

That's what airlines like FR are counting on, and no you can't plan for every eventuality...This is why I will never ever return to Tenerife.

[daz211]

FR

Hello FR long time no talk ...
It is easier to plan and pack with Ryanair as they let you take more O/B than other Airlines maybe its just me ? but I like my 3 sheet roll quilted and am never without wet wipes ... lol. .

[racedo]

However 738NG has a difficult competitor with 320NEO which reduces by 20%.

Nope what you have is an existing frame that is being compared with a theoretical frame that has not yet flown.

Don't confusion actual with Marketing hype.

[IJM]

Ryanair flights are so short, I dont see why anyone has the need to use the toilet in the first place

I also agree with daz211 that there should be no desperate need to use toilets on short hauls..

So what about longer Ryanair flights then - eg. UK to Canary Islands, Morocco, Malta etc?

Why should you be the judges of when people should use the toilets, and when they shouldn't?

[smith]

Do you really believe Ryanair would pay for Boeing pilots? They pay for nothing.

How do the FR pilots get to Seattle and who pays for this and their HOTAC? :-O