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Old 30th Apr 2011, 11:36
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Cyrano,
glad to see the you added, my comments were made in the same vein.

Shed -on-a-Pole,
Perhaps you should take yourself a little less seriously I too, as a teenage aerosexual (as MOL is reputed to have labelled his pilot workforce, of whom I previously was one) was also a spotter , in a past life ,and still harbour a very bad habit of taking nice aircraft piccies whilst working, so I am hardly likely to come on here and be high and mighty (indeed there exists a nice pic of me & my cojo waving to a couple of spotties whilst taxying out at GRO one day a few years ago on airliners.net) so , I think your sensitivities are a bit misplaced.
As for encouraging an interest in aviation ? well, prior to 9/11 my cockpit was generally "open doors", whenever was reasonable, directly as a result of previous generations of Captain's kindness to me in that respect, so ,if you please, don't categorise me as some elitist old dinosaur. I payed my own way into this profession via the self-improver route, so I know where I arrived from very well thanks.

I think you can safely assume my command of the English language would suggest "sumfin like that" is deliberately substituted for "somewhere more appropriate", perhaps my humour is just a little too subtle for you?
Anyway, the point stands, that a large percentage of posts I read on this forum tend towards the spotterish side of commercial, which is an observation,not a criticism. Room for all sorts on pprune, EVEN cabin crew
My criticism was of the mods decision to dump a pilot- orientated landing incident discussion, in the middle of your forum,perhaps due to their usual desire to have no anti-Ryanair (even though I wasn't being) material left in R&N.
This did & does, strike me as a fairly useless place to dump it if you want it read by pilots, wouldn't you agree ?

Edited to say, to emphasise there is a place for us all in aviation, ironically the crew only became aware of the incident in Dublin courtesy of a member of the public who reported the nacelle striking the runway. Operating crew felt/suspected nothing, crew taking over didn't see it hidden under the engine, so & well done to Mr Reginald S Potter n'est pas ?

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Old 1st May 2011, 14:19
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+1 on the sentiments about arrogance, courtesy and respect.

BTW, French speakers never use n'est pas.....in such a context.

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Old 1st May 2011, 23:30
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Did you actually read my post above yours ? ?

Oh BTW, I did study 6 years in Ryanair "charm school", so don't expect TOO much.
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Old 2nd May 2011, 00:30
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Oh BTW, I did study 6 years in Ryanair "charm school", so don't expect TOO much.
was a spotter,in a past life, so I am hardly likely to come on here and be high and mighty
How about you stop patronising others and raise your game? Only the feeble minded blame their surroundings for what they lack when they're just lacking in good character and manners.
You sound exactly what you claim not to be!
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Old 2nd May 2011, 00:41
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Finally, can any of you guys actually READ.

Read this forum and you will find a plethora of posts "Ryanair now flying 4 times a week to ABC"/ " Oh it takes ages for the bags to arrive in T5" etc etc, I rest my assertion , a little bit of a Reggie Spotterish/ SLF place to put a bloody landing incident. . . which, was my criticism of the mods, AND. . the whole reason why I ended up here ,merely trying to find where our "pilot" discussion "inconveniently "? involving Ryanair, had been dumped.
Are you folks on this forum so sensitive (or thick? ) to actually understand what is on your forum, or indeed what my original gripe actually was?

Jeez, some folks are just so hard to please

Doesn't bother me nowadays, but please my sensitive little souls, think twice about flying FR if you are that easily emotionally bruised. . . Bless !

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Old 2nd May 2011, 06:09
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Well, captplaystation. It appears that you are desperate to prove our point for us. You have excelled yourself. Any discussion of Ryanair launching a new route 4 x weekly to [ABC] is exactly what this forum is all about. That is why it is called 'Airlines, Airports & ROUTES.' We surely cannot be aviation industry professionals (including aircrew) if we dare to show an interest in which routes the fleet may be deployed on next season, can we? And as for discussing the economics of and prospects for such routes, the operating companies thereon, or the airports served as a consequence ... well, how could we possibly be professionals and be interested in such considerations?

Or maybe as you say, it is just that contributors who discuss routes in the forum about routes are "thick". Yes, that must be it. And as for daring to discuss the functionality of baggage handling systems in Britain's newest major airport terminal ... well, what kind of person would raise that subject on the 'Airlines, AIRPORTS & Routes' forum. I mean, really, do any aviation professionals work in terminals? The very idea of it!!! Hmmm ... on second thoughts, maybe it is we regular contributors who do "actually understand" what is posted on this forum after all.

Have you considered sticking to the forum(s) which actually measure up to your high professional standards instead of AA&R? Give it a try.
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Old 2nd May 2011, 12:35
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Unlike L' Oreal, I doubt you are "worth it", but here goes.

I think anyone with a slightly developed sense of humour could have read the tongue in cheek sarcasm in my original post, which caused you so much offence/distress.
I have tried to explain A- Why I ended up posting here & B- my original gripe that this wasn't the right place for the discussion I was in, But. . . you are too "precious" / defensive to read what I have written, prefering to continue on your crusade to defend your forum.
Whether I think you are a bunch of anoraks, or indeed making informed comment on the industry, is not of great concern to you I am sure, however, you really should have a go at taking yourself a "little" less seriously and develop your sense of humour a little.
It is a great asset in this industry, as you have possibly surmised by now.
I can assure you I am unlikely to interfere with your discussions on this forum too often, as long as the mods don't continue to use it as a dumping ground for "inconvenient discussions" elsewhere.
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Old 2nd May 2011, 15:05
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For God Sake !

Please can we get this thread back on track and stop using it as a boxing ring, I for one check this thread for News regarding routes and Airports, I do not want to get dragged into the current slanging match, so please dont try and involve me, all I am asking is please can we get back to news on Airlines Airports and routes ... If you want to carry on your personal tit for tat banter can you please use your PM and let us Industry Professionals get back on topic...

Best regards DAZ211.

P.S Sorry MODS, I had to say the above...
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Old 2nd May 2011, 17:06
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HHN: Dark clouds again...

... ok, after the rants, maybe back to topic:
The new regional government of Rhineland-Palatinate (Socialdemocrats now in coalition with Greens), which as you know supports HHN with 11-15 million Euros each year (some 4-5 Euros per passenger) has decided today to ramp-down this support 'as fast as possible'. I wonder that this means for the future of FR at HHN. Though once people will tell them that it really has some 3000 jobs attached to it, they'll surely reconsider. The region isn't rich. The controversial big bridge above the Mosel river which will amongst other things connect HHN better to the North and West will however be built.
Another FR-related news-bit is that Kaunas city council is pushing for the Rail Baltica high-speed rail project (Berlin-Warsaw-Kaunas-Riga-Tallinn) to connect to the KUN terminal.
 
Old 3rd May 2011, 06:27
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Question FR at MAN

When FR pulled the base at MAN they just retained one flight originating in Dublin.

They have now added Alicante, Faro, Madrid, Palma and Tenerife to the list (all, I believe, using aircraft based in those locations - no base at MAN).

Does anyone know if there are plant to add any other routes to this list ?
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Old 3rd May 2011, 07:40
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MAN base?

MAN never was a base, only a destination that was heavily cut back and comes back to life now!
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Old 3rd May 2011, 08:37
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Fresh Bid for Aer Lingus !

Ryanair to make fresh Aer Lingus bid? : Stansted Airport News Stories




I have just stumbled across this bit of news and thought I would share it with you all, Its from the 01/05/2011 but has not been talked about on this thread yet ...
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Old 3rd May 2011, 10:31
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Just out of interest, and bearing in mind that I haven't read the article above nor any other material re: Ryanair bid to take over Aer Lingus, what would happen if the take over were to go ahead? Would the two companies operate under seperate entities albeit under the Ryanair 'umberella'? Would Ryanair keep the longhaul routes etc?
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Old 3rd May 2011, 12:39
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Who knows !!!
But I myself would like to see, STN being used along with DUB and SNN as longhaul hubs, Ryanair doing all European routes and Aer Lingus doing the longhaul routes with connections between the two ...

But dont think the take over will even get of the ground
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Old 3rd May 2011, 15:38
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Nothing from RNS about a take over yet. Just more shares being issued.

RYANAIR News RYA RYA.L - Interactive Investor

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Old 3rd May 2011, 16:08
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Take over of Aer Lingus

The serious Irish media reports that the responsible government minister (new government in Ireland since the last bid) would not allow the government stake in Aer Lingus to be sold to Ryanair - the whole issue has been reopened by the plan by the government to seel as many assets as possible to reduce state debt.


In addition, the EU has blocked previous bids on competition grounds so I can't see it changing its mind.

At the time of the earlier bids, Ryanair said it would keep the 2 companies operating separately but would expand the Aer Lingus brand (double I think I recall). As EI has moved away from the low cost model there is even more rationale for this now.
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Old 3rd May 2011, 17:47
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Yes the EU may have blocked it before, but have you noticed that since then Ryanair has been adding board members with friends, example:

Mr. Juliusz Komorek was appointed as Director - Legal & Regulatory Affairs, Company Secretary of Raynair Holdings Plc in May 2009. He served as Deputy Director of Legal and Regulatory Affairs since 2007. Prior to joining the Company in 2004, he had gained relevant experience in the European Commission’s Directorate General for Competition and in the Polish Embassy to the EU in Brussels, as well as in the private sector in Poland and the Netherlands. He is a lawyer, holding degrees from the universities of Warsaw and Amsterdam.

Mr. Charlie McCreevy, former EU Commissioner and Irish Minister for Finance has been appointed as Non-Executive Director of Ryanair Holdings PLC with effect from May 28, 2010. Mr. McCreevy has previously served as EU Commissioner for Internal Markets and Services (2004-2010) and has held positions in several Irish Government Ministerial Offices, including Minister for Finance (1997-2004), Minister for Tourism & Trade (1993-1994) and Minister for Social Welfare (1992-1993).


One jnr minister may say its a no sale to Ryanair, but at the end of the day the Irish Government needs the money.

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Old 9th May 2011, 21:55
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Just remember what happened to Buzz when Ryanair bought it, picked a fight with the unions and closed it down. Kept a few aircraft 737-300s I think as well as a British AOC. Can see the same happening if they AL.
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Old 9th May 2011, 22:46
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Serious Irish Media

What serious Irish media?
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Ryanair will slash flights acorss Spain lather this year if the recent fines imposed by the Spanaish Goverement are not reversed. They have being fined more than 60 times in the last 2 years. If the fines of 1.23million are not lifted the cuts will be announced.

They expect to carry 30+million passengers in Spain this year and they claim to sustain over 33,000 jobs.

Spanish consumers' organizations accused Ryanair of 'blackmail' and threatened to take legal action if 'even a single fine' was cancelled.
Ryanair threatens Spain with job cuts unless fines are lifted - Monsters and Critics
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