Ryanair - 8
ryanair is not like other airlines. It does not care that it leaves pax stranded or that airports are upset. It has around 300 planes to operate but is working to ensure it does not have pax or airports to keep that number of planes in service.
BA or Ryanair
$120/barrel+ oil means fuel costs rise and the industry must downsize. The Ryanair model does not work without cheap fuel.
BA has approx 240 aircraft V Ryanair 272
BA carries 40% the number of passengers Ryanair does and BA has just increased its fuel surcharges YET AGAIN.
So can you provide me the industry study that shows when fuel prices rise the Industry must downsize but Ryanair most of all.
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No Mickeyman what I am saying is we have the same people sputing the same lines, from both sides all the time and it is tiresome. There are people who post provocative comments based on their own jaundiced view, that is what is tiresome.
As my grandmother used to say ' if you have nothing useful to say then say nothing'
As my grandmother used to say ' if you have nothing useful to say then say nothing'
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If the price of fuel increases, the salaries of pilots increase ( worldwide shortage imminent ), the unit price of the machines increase ( Airbus and Boeing happy to be out of a buyers market ), Airport charges increase ( or subsidies decrease ) etc, etc, then airfares increase. The price sensitive market may be tested, and inturn the loco's may have to evolve. I'd like to see Ryanair rebrand soon and get ahead of the possy for the next stage in aviation. Hub and spoke, central airports, mixed class travel and modern yield management, customer service, alliances, group purchasing, a mixed fleet.... Ancillary revenue will stay. Interesting times. Great viewing!
If [or rather] when fuel prices increase, and thus air-fares increase accordingly, the pax wanting to travel at the new higher fares will be business travellers or more affluent leisure travelers. I would venture that neither of these two groups would put Ryanair as their carrier of choice.
To be fair, I think this is an issue that is facing all lo-co carriers: in an era where cheap fares are no longer possible, how do you differentiate yourself from the competition? The obvious answer is customer service, and I would suggest that service is not Ryanair's strongest selling point.
To be fair, I think this is an issue that is facing all lo-co carriers: in an era where cheap fares are no longer possible, how do you differentiate yourself from the competition? The obvious answer is customer service, and I would suggest that service is not Ryanair's strongest selling point.
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ryanair's next big focus is customer service. plans are already well underway for improving this. ryanair have the customer base, majority will fly again (but obviously not the kind of people you find on these forums as it's generally people with very strong for/against arguments) and now time to work on keeping these loyal customers.
Majority of pax haven't been stung by Ryanair, like the efficiency of the airline and the punctuality as well as reliability, which well outstrips other low cost carriers. (That I'm afriad is a fact, rather than a view point as punctuality statistics show).
There will always be times people feel hard done by, I wonder how the vast amount of passengers who have been effected by cancellations to their holidays/flights by BA strikes feel!? Ryanair don't pretend to be perfect. A big area to work on is what happens when the flight has to get cancelled for whatever reason, and this will come in time.
The last 10 years has been growth growth growth...now it's time to sit back and work on the product. Watch this space, some interesting changes in the next few years.
Majority of pax haven't been stung by Ryanair, like the efficiency of the airline and the punctuality as well as reliability, which well outstrips other low cost carriers. (That I'm afriad is a fact, rather than a view point as punctuality statistics show).
There will always be times people feel hard done by, I wonder how the vast amount of passengers who have been effected by cancellations to their holidays/flights by BA strikes feel!? Ryanair don't pretend to be perfect. A big area to work on is what happens when the flight has to get cancelled for whatever reason, and this will come in time.
The last 10 years has been growth growth growth...now it's time to sit back and work on the product. Watch this space, some interesting changes in the next few years.
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Is it worth sticking around for then frfly, all these new changes?
A better service for the passengers? What about a better service for the employees? Let's start with Good morning when crew control ring you at 4am instead of them barking orders at you!!
A better service for the passengers? What about a better service for the employees? Let's start with Good morning when crew control ring you at 4am instead of them barking orders at you!!
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So if Ryanair no longer fly from ALC, won't pax simply fly with EZY or JET2 [etc] instead ? it is not as if there are no alternatives.
Ryanair seem to think that they are the only option, which is obviously not the case.
Ryanair seem to think that they are the only option, which is obviously not the case.
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Cost increases
It seesm some are suggesting that the low cost model has had its day due to fuel costs, taxes, capital costs etc. Clearly cost is all relative. For example, if Ryanair is £50 and BA is £100 and costs rise 20% then Ryanair is £60 and BA is £120 then Ryanair is still low cost. Even if the % rise hits the Low costs carrier more and it becomes £75 to BA's £120, it is still the low cost.
The point is rising costs hit all the airlines
The point is rising costs hit all the airlines
You're comparing apples and oranges, BA don't fly the same aircraft type as FR, they fly a wide variety, some smaller and some bigger. BA might well carry 40% of the number of passengers that FR carry but the chances are the average BA passengers will have (gladly) paid more for their seat than the average FR passenger will pay or will expect to pay.
Yup coming Ryanair with BA is unfair
No news for the BSL/PMO? It has been entered in the online check-in for 1 week now.
an April fool?
an April fool?
So where am I going wrong? I thought BSL and FR parted company not on the best of terms so I'm very surprised to think they'd be going back there again and on such a potentially underused route.
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No news for the BSL/PMO?
Ryanair have cancelled 8 previously ordered a/c
FLEET WATCH: Orders March 2011-08/04/2011-London-Commercial Aviation Online
Were these origionally due 2011 or 2012?
FLEET WATCH: Orders March 2011-08/04/2011-London-Commercial Aviation Online
Were these origionally due 2011 or 2012?
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Montenegro
The long-running developments regarding low-fares airlines entering Montenegro seem to be finally going somewhere:
Balkans.com Business News : Ryanair in Podgorica and Tivat soon
Not good news for Montenegro Airlines, however they've been in trouble before. Stories not unlike others we've seen in Eastern Europe (notably LT, SK). Maybe they are lucky and LH will snap them up. Tivat (TIV) used to be massively popular in the 80s for holiday makers, and Air Berlin (following the LTU tradition) is already flying there in the summer. The coast had lots of UK property investors over the past years. So listen, FR punters, MNE is not a cheap country. Podgorica (TGD) is probably the only capital city in Europe without some sort of low-fares carrier. To those who don't know the story: TGD is the city's old name from YU times, Titograd. So like at LED, those codes seem unchangeable. Quite possibly FR will sell TIV as something like Dubrovnik-East.
Balkans.com Business News : Ryanair in Podgorica and Tivat soon
Not good news for Montenegro Airlines, however they've been in trouble before. Stories not unlike others we've seen in Eastern Europe (notably LT, SK). Maybe they are lucky and LH will snap them up. Tivat (TIV) used to be massively popular in the 80s for holiday makers, and Air Berlin (following the LTU tradition) is already flying there in the summer. The coast had lots of UK property investors over the past years. So listen, FR punters, MNE is not a cheap country. Podgorica (TGD) is probably the only capital city in Europe without some sort of low-fares carrier. To those who don't know the story: TGD is the city's old name from YU times, Titograd. So like at LED, those codes seem unchangeable. Quite possibly FR will sell TIV as something like Dubrovnik-East.
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I am sorry to be so critical because I have travelled Ryanair myself although some time ago now but a twice weekly service to Corfu from Stansted is going to create quote ''up to 30 local jobs''. I know there is spin but come on.
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Somewhere like corfu it will create jobs, most of the pax will be tourists and need a hotel, something to do, ie daytrips/boat trips/waterparks. Twice a week, even if its just 300pax a week its 300 people using local services, keeping people in jobs.
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Cancelling part of those special-cheap priced ones from the famous discount-deal with Boeing or were they to be purchased at the different price now? Anyway, the cancellation of exceptionally cheap a/c would suggest a very gloomy outlook for the years to come.