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Old 1st Mar 2012, 23:20
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Yeah, I am for real. I don't read the Daily Mail. I post my views on this based on ACTUAL EXPERIENCE.

The number is national rate in Ireland and 10p per minute in UK so not sure where you are getting this premium rate from, you ring the reservations centre who can do it for you.

The premium rate number is for people who want help with using the website rather than those who want to make a change to a reservation And besides, when I did it it only took two minutes. Lets not let the facts get in a way of a good story
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Old 2nd Mar 2012, 08:31
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01/03/2012 - Flight Cancellation - FR8357 Budapest to Manchester?

Oh dear, not all is well out east!

Any more information on this?

Pete
I was on the MAN-BUD inbound leg of this rotation. We left MAN around an hour and a half late. Before takeoff the F/O made an announcement apologising for the delay. He stated that the outbound flight had to be cancelled because the original operating crew would have exceeded their maximum flight duty hours for the day by the time they arrived back in BUD.

Classic Ryanair. Blaming everyone but themselves!

(P.s. Oddly enough, it was this trip which caused me the payment problems I described a few posts ago).
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Old 2nd Mar 2012, 09:05
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Normally force the crew to go into discretion

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Old 2nd Mar 2012, 10:03
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Faro will be 7 a/c and not the planned 8.
Leipzig - canceled
Milan-BGY - canceled
Nantes - planned to be canceled but its not
East-Midlands - 2 weekly flights dropped
Bournemouth - 1 weekly flight dropped
Paris-BVA - 1 weekly flight dropped
Cork - 1 weekly flight dropped
Masstricht - 1 weekly flight dropped
Bristol - 1 weekly flight dropped

Ryanair say its for operational reasons and the canceled routes were picked as they had low bookings.
Any idea why? The terminal in FAO is still not fully repaired after the winter storm, lot's of temp buildings and portacabins. Is this the reason or was it because they could make more money and had subsequently promised the aircraft elsewhere?
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Old 2nd Mar 2012, 11:56
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Apropos, why not blame the laws which allow people to be "employed" under such contracts?? It is modern form of slavery introduced by "share holder value" driven companies who have beaten the so called governments in UK & Ireland to make it possible.

In France, as you well know, the gov stopped them employing people on that sort of basis. The result? RyR employs the people who work flights there to move in and out at intervals to avoid being treated as French workers.

OK, so the market for jobs is so bad that people will sign up, blame that on the capitalists who (still) run our banks.

Ryanair is run by opportunists, so they use what they find. The airline business was a cosy cartel before them, not a good idea either. What we need is proper, humane labour laws applied across Europe.

Bye, Barry
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Old 2nd Mar 2012, 12:05
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Well said Barry !
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Old 2nd Mar 2012, 12:14
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French companies employ French nationals in the UK on French contracts paying French taxation and have been doing so since before Ryanair existed.

French Govt have refused to have to allow the employees of companies like Eurocamp etc be treated as French employees so to limit anything they could be entitled to.

French Govt have also used their own laws to refuse people with people with Internationally recognised Ski qualifications / Equestrian qualificatsions etc etc to set up running their own business in France.

Funny thing about protectionism is that people always dress it up as something else......
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Old 2nd Mar 2012, 20:04
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Normally force the crew to go into discretion

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Is it possible that they were already in discretion before the additional delay at BUD?

Perhaps they have some teething problems with rotas at a new base which has been hastily set up.
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Old 2nd Mar 2012, 20:34
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Discretion?

Scuse me?

Ryanair Ops / Crewing do not ever force anyone to go in to discretion.

If you read any company's Part A, discretion is the Commanders: if the company you work for thinks otherwise, take it up with your Authority.
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Old 3rd Mar 2012, 08:02
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Agreed, French play games, so does everybody. That's why I suggested we need cross EU rules. Don't hold your breath, M.O'L holds the strings
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Old 3rd Mar 2012, 12:03
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No they won't force you to use discretion, correct. But they will ask you to use it. That's in my experience.
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Old 3rd Mar 2012, 17:58
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Budapest problems take another turn.

13 return flights over next 2 weeks canceled. 4 airports in Germany,UK,Greexe.
Ryanair based crews in Budapest must clear Border Control Police on arrivals from Ireland and UK. (this is not required by law)
From 1 March Ryanair said they will not comply.
2 flights not allowed to depart MAN on 1 March and Baden on 2 March

Important Notice For Ryanair Passengers In Budapest, Hungary - Xpatloop.com - Expat Life In Budapest, Hungary - Travel

Those are the 4 airports that most lightly have the lowest bookings.
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Old 3rd Mar 2012, 18:44
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Why does this rule apply to Ryanair and not other airlines. A friend was on a Wizz Air Budapest based flight last week and there was none of this get the crew out stuff.
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Old 3rd Mar 2012, 19:07
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maybe hungary hates MOL just as much as the rest of europe
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Old 3rd Mar 2012, 21:34
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Crazy procedure or not, it's hard to feel much sympathy for Ryanair...
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Old 3rd Mar 2012, 22:11
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Bizarre @ Budapest "only"

"We call upon Budapest Airport and the Border Control Authorities to remove this bizarre and unique procedure at Budapest"

At first I presumed from the language that MOL was denouncing his own company !

Bizarre and unique, indeed.

A perfect soundbite by the king thereof to describe MOL's perverse obligation visited upon all nonEU passport holders travelling on the no-class-airline to have an extra stamp before they board at pain of supplying barrowloads of dosh to the company in question for a ticket on the next flight.

But then it said it was just Budapest......
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Old 3rd Mar 2012, 22:47
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Why does this rule apply to Ryanair and not other airlines. A friend was on a Wizz Air Budapest based flight last week and there was none of this get the crew out stuff.
Seems Hungarian Border Police have a personal axe to grind while breaking EU law in the process.

It will get solved very quickly at a Government level as very much doubt that someone is following Hungarian law.
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Old 3rd Mar 2012, 22:49
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maybe hungary hates MOL just as much as the rest of europe
Dear oh dear someone has a big chip.
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Old 3rd Mar 2012, 23:13
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add this to the fact FR are paying more to fly from BUD than they wanted to pay....look forward to future developments at the base!!!
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Old 4th Mar 2012, 01:48
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GRX back on the map, but no routes yet. CGN still not on the map.

Not sure why it went in the first place - were yields really that poor compared to other places in Andalucia, or was it a cost issue?
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