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Old 30th Jul 2009, 12:13   #1 (permalink)
 
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DURHAM TEES VALLEY AIRPORT - 5

Given that Eastern are soon to drop their NCL-IOM service (last service Sun 23 Aug I believe) - I wonder if Manx2 will look to fill the gap at NCL or MME?
I wonder if MME would be far enough from LBA so as not to abstract from that service? Suspect NCL would offer bigger discounts however who knows.


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Old 30th Jul 2009, 21:52   #2 (permalink)
 
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Surely Excelsis will step in with a rocketship service departing hourly from the Metro / Airport / Rocket base?
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Old 3rd Aug 2009, 09:06   #3 (permalink)
 
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Ryanair could also do Stansted or Gatwick. I think either of those would be more beneficial as a London route than Luton. But we're not going to grumble are we
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Old 3rd Aug 2009, 10:16   #4 (permalink)
 
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FR base

MME is running in as one of the favourites for a new UK Ryanair base with 3 B738s based from October.
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Old 3rd Aug 2009, 10:37   #5 (permalink)
 
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FR Base...

How did you find this out?
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Old 3rd Aug 2009, 11:04   #6 (permalink)
 
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Currently on the Ryanair thread..I meant 3rd in other users' minds, not necessarily the minds of the most important people i.e. Ryanair management.

It would certainly be very galling to see a FR base at another Northern base e.g. NCL/LBA given they already have lo-cos but perhaps DSA are in with a shout seeing as though TOM are reducing.
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Old 3rd Aug 2009, 15:30   #7 (permalink)
 
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Just reading this thread, the Ryanair thread and a few other places - we seem to have a much bigger chance than you might realise, few airports would be able to match an offer MME could make (because of our desperation), also, it would make the local news like Jacko's death made the national news - it would be talked about for weeks, so whereas three aircraft, and B738s at that, would seem like over capacity, it maybes wouldn't be, people would come from the very corners of our catchment area, not to mention we'd steal pax from LBA, NCL and maybes more!

Also, it wouldn't matter if Ryanair paid nothing for years, they'd attract the right type of pax, we'd make enough profit from car parking, vending machines, the cafes/pubs etc.

It's funny how several airlines leaving have put us in the mess we're in, yet one airline could be about to put us in the best position we've ever been in overnight, and let's not forget, airports with their own based airlines grow a lot faster than those without, Jet2 at Leeds being a prime example and even us with bmibaby to a lesser extent - more airlines and routes would most likely follow!

Still, it hasn't happened yet...
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Old 3rd Aug 2009, 15:35   #8 (permalink)
 
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DTV and Ryanair

My feeling is ,it will be Glasgow a massive catchment area and PIK is not flavour of the month.DTV's record,lets face it has not been good.Lets hope however if they do come they sign a legally binding contract this time!!

Anyway more help needed, as seen on another web site, a huge amount of trooping flight going through Newcastle at the moment..have we lost those as well anyone??
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Old 3rd Aug 2009, 16:24   #9 (permalink)
 
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The Newcastle troop flights are more thank likely from the local barracks they have flown out of there many times before.

DTVA has handled flights very recently.
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Old 3rd Aug 2009, 16:35   #10 (permalink)
 
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MOD flights

Know its a little sensitive..but haven't seen many recently?

Which barracks are used for Newcastle? Thought all came from catt?????
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Old 3rd Aug 2009, 16:39   #11 (permalink)
 
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Had one the other day, Omni DC10 from Calgary bringing troops back from Canada. Departed to Hannover iirc.
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Also, it wouldn't matter if Ryanair paid nothing for years, they'd attract the right type of pax, we'd make enough profit from car parking, vending machines, the cafes/pubs etc.
So how's that business model working out at Prestwick then? ( closest analogy )

You're assuming that you'll make money etc because MOL says so. Is that happening at similar airfields? Is Shannon rolling in profit? I have yet to see proof this approach works in this part of the world, though I happily admit it seems to work well in parts or Europe.
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Old 3rd Aug 2009, 22:29   #13 (permalink)
 
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Bartrams, there is a barracks near Newcastle airport on an old airfield. A few years back they got the lucky dip of a Corsair 747-100 on its last flight before the breakers.
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Old 3rd Aug 2009, 22:51   #14 (permalink)
 
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yup .. RAF Ouston is only a few miles away .. it is now an Army Barracks !!

It also served as 'Newcastle Airport' temporarily in the 60's while the runway at NCL was being extended.
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Now known as Albemarle Barracks, just off off the Military Road. Used to see the odd VC10 when I used to visit family up there. Assume they move troops into Otterburn from there too
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Old 4th Aug 2009, 22:21   #16 (permalink)
 
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3 based aircraft from Ryanair would mean either 3 x 3 flights 7 days to destinations or about 12 new destinations at various days .Can't really see that happening at the moment,however, Ryanair have numerous aircraft on order and being delivered shortly and have reduced services at various airports in a huff so who knows. They have the clout to produce new routes out of nothing.Things are so bad at Teesside that even a rumour is good news.
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Old 5th Aug 2009, 15:50   #17 (permalink)
 
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Another two small pieces of good news.
The troop flights are still with us, another load of troops came back from Canada early this morning (Monarch A330) and there is a Globespan 763 coming down tonight presumably to depart in the morning.

Also, Newmarket have added a number of one-off holidays from DTVA next year taking us back to what we used to have after a quiet year!
Holidays can be had to Malta (Nov 09, Apr 10), Verona (May 10), Naples (Jun 10) using Air Malta and Viking.
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Old 5th Aug 2009, 20:33   #18 (permalink)
 
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Just been looking through the ryanair website and all routes out of MME along with DSA have been axed. So i doubt the new UK Ryanair base wont be going to either MME or DSA.
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Old 5th Aug 2009, 20:37   #19 (permalink)
 
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In the case of MME are you sure they're not just axed for the Winter? Do they even have next Summers schedules out yet?

If we were to get the base things would change anyway, we'd probably get DUB back, and at a higher frequency than when it ended too, but although my hopes have been built up (probably needlessly) I'll believe it when I see it.
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Agree that they're probably just dropped for the Winter, but does make you wonder if they can't sustain these for the Winter, where would based aircraft operate to?

Manx2 have also announced IOM-NCL, replacing EZE.
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