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This article from anna.aero backs up quite nicely some of the points I have previously make about EZY's "growth"...
Ryanair, easyJet, Vueling, and Wizz Air?s growth airports
London Luton is EZY's fastest growing airport this year, seeing an extra 46 departures per week in August 2015 compared to August 2014. Equates to an extra 6 or 7 per day. Sounds good!?
Biggest declining airport is... London Stansted. Also worth noting they're pulling an aircraft out of Southend as well. Between them they lose somewhere in the region of around 40 to 50 flights a week.
So that impressive growth at Luton, in real terms, actually equates to about 0.
Look at Ryanair by comparison.
Ryanair, easyJet, Vueling, and Wizz Air?s growth airports
London Luton is EZY's fastest growing airport this year, seeing an extra 46 departures per week in August 2015 compared to August 2014. Equates to an extra 6 or 7 per day. Sounds good!?
Biggest declining airport is... London Stansted. Also worth noting they're pulling an aircraft out of Southend as well. Between them they lose somewhere in the region of around 40 to 50 flights a week.
So that impressive growth at Luton, in real terms, actually equates to about 0.
Look at Ryanair by comparison.
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Look at Ryanair by comparison.
Take a step back, both firms have had peaks and troughs of growth which stabilise into mature routes or retract as assets are redeployed round the entire continental network. easyJet are enormous at Gatters, it's a different focus in the London market. LTN, STN and SEN are peripheral by comparison whereas FR is pretty much all at STN having given up most of LGW.
In terms of the brand, the current livery is out of step with the warmer family and business friendly nuanced customer facing brand image consistent across print and digital, the clash is at the airport. The revised livery doesn't quite close the gap IMHO.
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It's nothing to do with FR being better than EZY. Just making a valid point.
Redeployment of aircraft I agree isn't uncommon and makes perfect sense in some cases but there should be a mix of that with some actual growth. It has been a common theme in the UK for EZY over recent years. Rarely, other than at LGW, has EZY actually delivered any growth at all.
FR have been able to and continue to grow very strongly at STN without it having an impact on their LTN and LGW operations. In fact, FR will increase at both these airports too this year.
A similar thing has happened in the North-west of England between LPL and MAN and also in Scotland regarding GLA and EDI. EZY have grown in recent years at MAN and EDI but most of that is only offsetting cuts in LPL and GLA.
FR by comparison have cut back in LPL and PIK but the growth bought to MAN, GLA and EDI over the same period has more than compensated for those cuts and quite significantly. That too shows your redeployment of aircraft but there's growth bought with it as well which is equally as important.
That's the only point I'm trying to make, not a fight between one airline being better than the other.
Redeployment of aircraft I agree isn't uncommon and makes perfect sense in some cases but there should be a mix of that with some actual growth. It has been a common theme in the UK for EZY over recent years. Rarely, other than at LGW, has EZY actually delivered any growth at all.
FR have been able to and continue to grow very strongly at STN without it having an impact on their LTN and LGW operations. In fact, FR will increase at both these airports too this year.
A similar thing has happened in the North-west of England between LPL and MAN and also in Scotland regarding GLA and EDI. EZY have grown in recent years at MAN and EDI but most of that is only offsetting cuts in LPL and GLA.
FR by comparison have cut back in LPL and PIK but the growth bought to MAN, GLA and EDI over the same period has more than compensated for those cuts and quite significantly. That too shows your redeployment of aircraft but there's growth bought with it as well which is equally as important.
That's the only point I'm trying to make, not a fight between one airline being better than the other.
I thought it was worth saying, sorry. It does seem like you have a point to prove and it does smack as being tribal. What you are saying is not untrue, after all you've just done a few basic, very basic sums to determine net aircraft growth in the UK. So what if easyJet aren't throwing new aircraft into the network left right and centre. It's not all about growing as big and fast as you can, that's a recipe for disaster if/when the doo doo hits the proverbial economic fan.
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Absolutely nothing wrong with FR's point, it is quite valid. As a resident northeast of the river, I have found myself flying less and less with EZY over the last few years. Bit by bit, FR have crept into EZY's traditional network and there has been seemingly little done to defend the customer base in the northern part of the London catchment. Shifting deckchairs will only get so far, as we've seen with the emerging battle on CPH. FR could if they wanted to further attack EZY's 'new' (moved) routes at LTN.
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Oops senior moment kicking in.
Should have been this:
easyJet adds 70,000 extra seats from Edinburgh | The Edinburgh Reporter
Should have been this:
easyJet adds 70,000 extra seats from Edinburgh | The Edinburgh Reporter
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Was at Southend at the weekend and it looked like EZDA was getting the new scheme with Air Livery.
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Bases 25 and 26 were launched at Porto and Amsterdam these days.
AMS will get a 4th aircraft next winter
easyJet Media Centre
26th October LTN-CPH increased up to 4 daily
27th October AMS-LIN 6 weekly
AMS will get a 4th aircraft next winter
easyJet Media Centre
26th October LTN-CPH increased up to 4 daily
27th October AMS-LIN 6 weekly
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After checking the departures from each airport it looks like the following amount of based aircraft for each base
Gatwick 55-60 (1 aircraft overnight at MAD, BCN & CPH)
Milan 18
Luton 18
Geneva 13
Bristol 12 (during summer season)
Paris (CDG) 9
Berlin 9
Basel 9
Manchester 8 (9 from June)
Rome 7
Stansted 7
Liverpool 7
Edinburgh 7
Paris (Orly) 6
Lyon 5
Belfast 5
Lisbon 4
Glasgow 4
Hamburg 3
Naples 3
Southend 3
Toulouse 3
Nice 3
Newcastle 3
Amsterdam 2 (3 from May, 4 from October for the winter timetable)
Porto 2
Right now there are 23 easyJet Switzerland and 208 easyJet aircrafts.
If someone knows more accurate figures please let us know!
Gatwick 55-60 (1 aircraft overnight at MAD, BCN & CPH)
Milan 18
Luton 18
Geneva 13
Bristol 12 (during summer season)
Paris (CDG) 9
Berlin 9
Basel 9
Manchester 8 (9 from June)
Rome 7
Stansted 7
Liverpool 7
Edinburgh 7
Paris (Orly) 6
Lyon 5
Belfast 5
Lisbon 4
Glasgow 4
Hamburg 3
Naples 3
Southend 3
Toulouse 3
Nice 3
Newcastle 3
Amsterdam 2 (3 from May, 4 from October for the winter timetable)
Porto 2
Right now there are 23 easyJet Switzerland and 208 easyJet aircrafts.
If someone knows more accurate figures please let us know!
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14 year old girl refused boarding because she had 2 pieces of hand luggage even though the poor girl offered to pay for a bag to go in the hold. Does anybody have any common sense anymore. Absolute joke.