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I stand to be corrected if needs be, but I was told this morning that all MAD routes are zeroed out from September, but that it does not mean all MAD routes are to be canned.
Sounds like some schedule jiggling might be being looked into. I guess things will become more clear over the next few days, but my feeling from this morning's chat is that MAN is not necessarily dropped for good.
Not a surprise really. The base never ever made a positive contribution to easyJet results. They should not have opened it at the first place...
Low costs at network carriers hub rarely make money (except U2 at CDG because of AIRFRANCE non sense, or Ryanair at DUB vs. a previously very weak EI), contrary when entering rich secondary cities (GVA, MIL, BCN, BER etc). Plus low yield market, plus most competitive hub airport in Europe with Ryanair AND easyJet plus IB express and Vueling, plus internal mistakes (some ridiculous routes such as BOD, SOF, or OTP; bad revenue management with all their VFR or summer only routes always sold out 2 weeks before departure), plus the environment (e.g. arab spring killed their good morocan routes), plus future taxes increase etc etc
Re-SEN, they won't switch aircraft from underperforming bases to underperforming bases. It will go to their good countries where competition is weak and corporate demand strong i.e. France (probably 3 or 4 ac), Italy (2) and Swiss (1 each for BSL/GVA). I doubt the UK will get any.
h&s - you mention that LCCs rarely make money at network carrier hubs. While not strictly a hub, British Airways has for many many years been a major player at London Gatwick - until the sale in 2007 of GB Airways to Easyjet, British Airways was the dominant airline at Gatwick. While BA like all airlines has had its good and bad years, it would be difficult to describe it pre 2007 as a particularly weak or badly managed airline
Using your argument, how did Easyjet manage to make money at Gatwick pre 2007 ?
In addition, how does Norwegian manage to compete out of Oslo, Copenhagen and Stockholm ? Air Berlin at Dusseldorf, Munich or Zurich ? Niki (now AB) at Vienna ?
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DWLPL at no point has the APD argument come with a commitment not to base extra aircraft in the UK. I am pretty sure that the UK will see some of MAD's aircraft.
at no point has the APD argument come with a commitment not to base extra aircraft in the UK
“The rise in APD hits regional airports hardest and increases the pressure to move aircraft to mainland Europe. The Government seems to think that APD is a free lunch. It isn’t; it costs jobs in the UK.” - 2009
Is that an explicit commitment or a mere comment made 3 years ago? You could even argue that MAN isn't a regional airport in that sense. Either way, the Continent has been lucrative for Easyjet but it's not without it's problems as we have seen this week.
Last edited by easyflyer83; 11th Oct 2012 at 20:53.
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That quote merely reiterates what has already been raised on this read, that aircraft may be be moved from marginal, regional bases if APD makes those routes and bases more marginal.
There's nothing in that old statement which precludes aircraft being moved to profitable routes in the UK and to bases within the UK where APD has had less of a negative impact.
Does anyone know when the based A320 will arrive at BFS? It was meant to arrive on June 20th but hasn't so far?
Hi David, I dont know the answer to your question but my understanding is that it was intended for the peak summer months of July and August. So I would imagine from 1st of July.
I have noticed a fair amount of 320 activity by EZY lately. Many London flights have had 320 particulary around Christmas and Bank Holidays times. The early Glasgow arrival in the morning seems to be 320 some of the time and I think it has been making an appearance from NCL and LTN.
The 320 goes GLA-BFS-GLA-ALC-GLA some of the days as far as I know. but alas not a based one at BFS. EI-BUD
The A320 gets around the network widely now. Whilst still very much outnumbered by the A319, there are still almost 50 in the fleet.
MAN an LGW are 320 heavy and ORY is all 320. Most UK bases have atleast one 320 and whilst they are predicated on the long distance routes, they do also operate the shorter hops aswell.
Below is a near accurate list of all the EZY bases.
EZY EZY currently have 146x A319 and 44x A320. LGW - 21x A320 (Around 22-27? A319 (+1 that N/S in BCN)) LTN - 3x A320 (Usually 13x A319 (+1 that N/S in DTM)) BRS - 2x A320 (9x A319) LPL - 1x A320 (8x A319) SXF - 1x A320 (7x A319) ORY - 6x A320 MAN - 4x A320 (2x A319) BFS - 1x A320 (5x A319) EDI - 2x A320 (3x A319) GLA - 1x A320 (3x A319) NCL - 1x A320 (2x A319) NCE - 1x A320 (1x A319)
The following are the bases with no A320's based: MXP - 17x A319 (+1 that N/S in NAP) CDG - 10x A319 STN - 9x A319 MAD - 8x A319 FCO - 4x A319 (+1 that N/S in PMO) LYS - 4x A319 SEN - 3x A319 LIS - 2x A319 TLS - 2x A319
EZS EZS currently have 15x A319 and 5x A320. GVA - 3x A320 (10x A319) BSL - 2x A320 (5x A319)
