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Old 1st Aug 2014, 19:16
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Air Malta

At the moment Air Malta still showing as flying for Thomson next summer.
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Old 1st Aug 2014, 21:19
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it very rarely operates with a 428 seater at the moment, 90% of the time it has been using a 3 class a/c with significantly reduced Y seating capacity
Is this not influenced by other factors,? i.e. performance restrictions on high LF's & warmer summer weather?
Also it's not that difficult for EK to influence pax demand at NCL through their web pricing from other departure points. Takes a lot of "bums on seats" to fill all this additional A380 capacity..........
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Old 1st Aug 2014, 22:18
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Doesnt seem to be as much similar Y capacity fluctuations and reductions on the other UK routes. I dont think a 7 hour route has that much effect on performance of a 777 even from NCLs relatively short runway.
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Old 2nd Aug 2014, 06:34
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LS645 EMA - PSA on its way into NCL , done a few circles after takeoff from EMA then headed north ?
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skyman771, no runway restrictions afaik. I don't know whether EK have a number of 2 class 77Ws in maintenence at the moment though?
Are the English schools on holiday now? I would have assumed that if they were, demand would have boosted. Another example of the NE Economy's weakness, and why the area can't sustain 2 airports despite the MME's supporters wishes.
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Old 2nd Aug 2014, 07:54
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it very rarely operates with a 428 seater at the moment, 90% of the time it has been using a 3 class a/c with significantly reduced Y seating capacity
In July eleven two class machines operated the route! With a fleet of appox 144+ B777's and only 18 two class aircraft I think you will see the a good portion of three class plus odd 200 chucked in!
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LS645 EMA - PSA on its way into NCL , done a few circles after takeoff from EMA then headed north ?
Aircraft was G-GDFT (gone tech?) - Passengers have continued journey from NCL on G-CELU at 8.30 this morning
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Isn't this just the usual low season figures we see at this time every year??
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Old 2nd Aug 2014, 09:26
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Isn't this just the usual low season figures we see at this time every year??
Exactly that, this year accentuated by Ramadan coinciding with the "unpleasant" time of year weatherwise across the subcontinent. People who know don't travel to India / Pakistan in high summer too wet, and too hot.

All Emirates routes from UK suffer in the same way.
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Old 2nd Aug 2014, 12:37
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LS645 EMA - PSA on its way into NCL , done a few circles after takeoff from EMA then headed north ?
GGDFT tech problem after take off from EMA. Diverted to NCL to change onto GCELU as this aircraft spare in NCL this morning.
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Old 2nd Aug 2014, 13:06
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EK - Plus DXB was only operating on one runway May 1st -July 20th so lots of flight reductions and hence less connections!
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Yeah EK always suffers in the summer, people think Dubai is too hot (honestly I think a lot of it is in peoples minds but I understand heat isn't for everyone), so the pax they do get are either off home for the summer if in education over here or on a holiday to popular destinations such as Thailand, Australia, Indian Ocean etc. I.e I'm off NCL-DXB-BKK on Monday, will let you know how the loads are.

I don't see why they don't just sell F from NCL, you'd think if most are 3 class anyway, if it goes empty, it goes empty, but if passengers book F, bonus for EK! It ups the load factors as well.
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Old 3rd Aug 2014, 13:14
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EK, First

If the seats in first were sold they would have to cater for those pax and also extra crew etc, so there would be a cost associated with it. If they thought that money could be made I am sure they would sell First.
Maybe they will one day.
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How many extra crew does it require to sell F compared to higher density 2 class? There already seems to be loads of crew onboard.
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My flight on Monday was pretty much full, less than 10 seats free, my mam got lucky and had one next to her, I was surprised and pleased to see the whole Tanzanian Commonwealth Games team and all associated members flying out from Newcastle too, very friendly people.
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That's good news, they must have got a better deal out of NCL than Glasgow.
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GLA has been overbooked for the past 7 days and many were offered alternatives on routes with extra capacity
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Still good to see, I hope your "routes with extra capacity" comment wasn't a sly dig at NCL there because although there was easily 20 of them, the A/C would still only have had 30 empty seats had they not been there. Most importantly, IIRC there was 1 spare seat in J. I know this because unfortunately we were some of the last on and had to board from the front through J (in row 49) an there were 39 somewhat displeased faces looking back at us. Notice the error there, there were 2 who greeted us with massive smiles and a hello because I think it was their first flight in J, they looked overwhelmed by it all (as I was my first time), but the "regulars"... The less said about them the better, someone has to be last.
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Old 8th Aug 2014, 09:02
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Mods may as well change the title of this thread to EK35/36 thread. Last time i checked, i'm sure there were more airlines at NCL.
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Old 8th Aug 2014, 09:43
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There are indeed more airlines operating out of NCL...shame they are rarely mentioned!

On Page 265 alone, 13/20 posts were EK related

And NCL does have a lot of extra capacity surely? The pax numbers and the frequent use of a 3 class a/c show this...?

On another note, the BA flights I was on in Feb had 1 spare seat each...this must mean they are going to send an A380 to NCL (light-hearted joke)
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