PPRuNe Forums

Go Back   PPRuNe Forums > Misc. Forums > Airlines, Airports & Routes
Forgotten your Username/Password?
Register FAQ Calendar Advertise Mark Forums Read

Airlines, Airports & Routes Topics about airports, routes and airline business.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 8th April 2009, 09:20   #301 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: KIDDERMINSTER
Age: 39
Posts: 222
Quote:
"we have big plans to grow further in Germany"
I seem to remember them saying something similar about Eastern Europe and Scandinavia a year or two ago and about their BHX base about four years ago, absolutely nothing happened.......not sure why BE produce these strange media alerts as the rest of their business seems to be very soundly and sensibly run
GayFriendly is offline   Reply
Old 8th April 2009, 09:47   #302 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: uk
Posts: 306
Could there be a link up with Luftansa? is flybe going to take BMIR and then feed into DUS?
scratchingthesky is offline   Reply
Old 8th April 2009, 11:25   #303 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: another place
Posts: 285
Quote:
Could there be a link up with Luftansa? is flybe going to take BMIR and then feed into DUS?
No. If internal rumours are correct then Flybe asked Lufty the question were given a huge price tag and they ran home to Exeter.

Different business model, different fleet and similar routes. They do not really need another Bacon integration if there is no cash incentive.

D and F
Deep and fast is offline   Reply
Old 9th April 2009, 12:11   #304 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: St. Helier, Jersey, CI
Posts: 1,649
G-JEBC

An Aviastar 146-300 which crashed in Indonesia yesterday was formerly G-JEBC:

No survivors as Aviastar 146-300 crashes in Indonesia

JetPhotos.Net Photo » G-JEBC (CN: E3189) Flybe British Aerospace BAe 146-300 by John Fitzpatrick
akerosid is offline   Reply
Old 10th April 2009, 19:06   #305 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: UK
Age: 33
Posts: 256
Indonesia

Wonder if fumes in the cabin will emerge
fredtheanorak is offline   Reply
Old 20th April 2009, 19:59   #306 (permalink)
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Here and there
Age: 35
Posts: 81
Lgw-lba

So FyBe to start LGW-LBA route after BMI cancells LHR-LBA.

God call.



Flybe.com - News
Serenity is online now   Reply
Old 20th April 2009, 20:11   #307 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: East Scotland
Posts: 36
Flybe LGW LBA

Good news for Leeds and Yorkshire. Maybe a springboard for additional routes to Frankfurt and Copenhagen.
Everyone is doing their part to promote needed services into Leeds, new terminal expansion by the owners, the airlines, apart from Bmi continue to provide a range of destinations so now Leeds City Council need to get on with approving the expansion before the Planning Comm and get the rail link sorted, if not direct into the airport then a shuttle bus from Horsforth. It is time Leeds moved on.
rpmac is offline   Reply
Old 20th April 2009, 20:19   #308 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Yorkshire, UK
Posts: 254
Call me cynical but LBA-LGW has failed before, it doesn't offer the connections that a LHR route does, I am not as enthusiastic or as hopeful as the above.
pwalhx is online now   Reply
Old 20th April 2009, 22:06   #309 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 42
Quote:
Call me cynical but LBA-LGW has failed before
Okay. You're cynical. Flybe seem to be making a habit of taking routes into LGW that others walked away from (ABZ and BA, NCL and Jet2 spring to mind). No reason why they shouldn't do the same with LBA.

Quote:
it doesn't offer the connections that a LHR route does, I am not as enthusiastic or as hopeful as the above.
It (LGW) also doesn't involve a regular 20 minute hold, 15 minute taxi to stand or 20 minute walk to the tube before finally arriving in Paddington. One or two plus points over LHR even if there aren't the fabled connections LHR (sometimes) offers......

Last edited by Drink Up Thee Cider : 20th April 2009 at 22:16.
Drink Up Thee Cider is offline   Reply
Old 20th April 2009, 22:10   #310 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: UK
Posts: 243
Quote:
Call me cynical but LBA-LGW has failed before
Possibly.... but was this when there was a competing LHR service?
With the lack of any LHR service and no alternative from LBA, then maybe the LGW service will survive.

If anyone can make money on this Flybe will. The Q400 is the best capacity aircraft for this route and with the lowest operating costs out there.
JobsaGoodun is offline   Reply
Old 21st April 2009, 10:57   #311 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: London
Posts: 3
At least one weekend in the year Network Rail have to carry out maintenance work on the heavily used East Coast Main Line which means rail journeys between Leeds and Kings Cross are disrupted. They don't do this work during the week which would inconvenience business travellers (because they pay the highest fares) but it is an alternative for travellers between the two cities. Regular railway maintenance is criticial if accidents are to be avoided. Remember when journey times from Leeds were extended to about four hours due to speed restrictions?

Gatwick is only 30 minutes by train to London Bridge and City Thameslink and 30 minutes to London Victoria. Its also useful for those travelling right down to the south coast. When the redevelopment of Blackfriars starts there will not be a through service from Kings Cross Thameslink to the South Coast.
flyrio is offline   Reply
Old 21st April 2009, 11:50   #312 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Isle of Man
Posts: 269
Quote:
When the redevelopment of Blackfriars starts there will not be a through service from Kings Cross Thameslink to the South Coast

Erm..no. Blackfriars mainline station stays open. Through trains continue to run during the week, but there is frequent disruption at weekends. The underground station however is closed until 2011

Thameslink Programme - Find out about the Thameslink Programme

Jusr re-read the FlyBe press release, and looking at the timetable and the comment about 20 jobs created at LGW it would seem that this will be the second aircraft to be based at LGW.
Haven't a clue is offline   Reply
Old 21st April 2009, 12:32   #313 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: UK
Age: 37
Posts: 114
... Still waiting to hear of LGW to EDI/GLA...

Come on flybe!
silverstreak is offline   Reply
Old 22nd April 2009, 12:40   #314 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: god knows
Age: 25
Posts: 207
The AirDB website says Flybe new route LBA-DUS. I wonder what Jet2 will make of that.

Edit to add: Prob not much as it goes via Gatwick.
Pilotdom is offline   Reply
Old 22nd April 2009, 13:23   #315 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: France
Posts: 5
The AirDB website says Flybe new route LBA-DUS.

I don't find this site very reliable ????
rouelan is offline   Reply
Old 22nd April 2009, 18:59   #316 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: brighton
Posts: 432
Are all flybe routes on a codeshare with BA ?

And does ba still have a 15% stake in flybe ?
flyer55 is offline   Reply
Old 22nd April 2009, 20:54   #317 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Isle of Man
Posts: 129
Q1 - No - only a very small number of those taken over with BACON, such as LGW-INV.

Q2 - Yes
Tonyq is offline   Reply
Old 23rd April 2009, 01:40   #318 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Doncaster
Age: 49
Posts: 121
Lba-lgw

The first flight from Leeds doesn't arrive in LGW till 1010. Not very good for morning meetings after all the disembarking formalites and the admittedly good train service to London. Good if meetings are in Croydon though.

Other way, good arrival time in Leeds, especially if you live quite south of the river, but generally it just seems so much easier to take the train.

BMI pulled the LHR route for reasons that have been dissected on this site, but I do wonder how many of the passengers on their flights were indeed transfer passengers, which would give them a much greater incentive to fly than go by train. I've no idea, I just wonder. Are Flybe codesharing this route, and if so, what connections do they have in mind?
johnnychips is offline   Reply
Old 23rd April 2009, 20:03   #319 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 218
No code-share but plenty of interline partners from LGW, including BA, BD, VS, EK, SQ plus many other non-UK carriers. There is nothing stopping people from using the BE onward connections although granted the majority of these you could probably fly direct from LBA to.

Some passengers choose to travel into LGW and hop over to LHR. If the route can work in places like NCL where they still have another (current) London connection I am sure it will work for LBA.....just a little bit of faith??
Cloud1 is offline   Reply
Old 23rd April 2009, 21:25   #320 (permalink)
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Manchester
Age: 28
Posts: 86
Lbalgw

Times should be for LBA based aircraft, there is much more demand north to south than the other way, southbound it will still be better for people to get the train to be in time for morning meetings. At least Q4 costs are v low, so may have a chance of working.
AirLCY is offline   Reply
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes


Posting Rules
vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 13:03.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC7
© 1996-2009 The Professional Pilots Rumour Network

As these are anonymous forums the origins of the contributions may be opposite to what may be apparent. In fact the press may use it, or the unscrupulous, or sciolists*, to elicit certain reactions.

*"sciolist"... Noun, archaic. "a person who pretends to be knowledgeable and well informed".