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757's
Not much better luck with the 757 fleet in the last 24 hours.
AY left Luton for ACE yesterday afternoon and got to Northern Spain and diverted to Manchester and has not flown since.
BN left BHX yesterday for Paphos 4 hours late and I assume crew hours stopped it from returning. It was due back at 03.00 ended up direct to Manchester at around 5pm. Nice coach trip for the pax, night flight delayed only to end up today with a Friday journey down the M6 especially with schools breaking up although it is not looking too bad on the traffic map.
The BHX schedule was recovered with BG positioning down from MAN this morning which I presume was spare or covered for by a 763.
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AY left Luton for ACE yesterday afternoon and got to Northern Spain and diverted to Manchester and has not flown since.
BN left BHX yesterday for Paphos 4 hours late and I assume crew hours stopped it from returning. It was due back at 03.00 ended up direct to Manchester at around 5pm. Nice coach trip for the pax, night flight delayed only to end up today with a Friday journey down the M6 especially with schools breaking up although it is not looking too bad on the traffic map.
The BHX schedule was recovered with BG positioning down from MAN this morning which I presume was spare or covered for by a 763.
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On a plus note we flew from LPL on the sunwing leased a/c's to IBZ and back last week and very pleasantly surprised, i know its TOM operated but i was surprised how well maintained the sunwing a/c were
Reminiscent of Channel Airways Comet operations in the early 1970s.
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Oh wow. Here come the summer delay reports... Every airline has them, no airline wants them. It's real life unfortunately. Nothings ever mentioned if the hundred others that depart early or ontime.
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There are delays and then delays but 34 hour +delay... come on, that is definitely newsworthy. Early and ontime flights dont ruin and shorten peoples hard earned holidays.
It is always worth highlighting less than favourable subcharters...
It is always worth highlighting less than favourable subcharters...
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Absolutely. Come on Cazza fly - be fair. This was not just a "real life" delay but an operator choosing to cover the Dalaman and Corfu rotations while withholding information from the Faro pax. They would have been livid if they had known what ops had decided! Thomson would be wise to give up such a very much "less than favourable" subcharter which will tarnish their holiday image considerably.
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I am sure the operator would have been working hard to reduce the delay to a minimum. However, with flight delay compensation, delaying three loads of passengers against one probably comes into the equation.
Despite being inbound on Wednesday night, seems not to have done the trip from Aberdeen to Faro on Thursday morning. But it then did a Dalaman rotation pretty much as planned later on Thursday, followed by a normal Corfu rotation on Friday morning. Only when convenient does it seem to have then been dispatched to Faro
As I understand it, Thomson market this, probably with pictures of Thomson aircraft splashed all over the place. But in fact the Aberdeen series is covered by an ASL aircraft. This I presume is the Irish organisation, but the aircraft in question is French registered. Goodness knows which AOC it is under, which authority is responsible for checking their insurance, or even for doing any ramp checks on an aircraft which does not seem to go to either Ireland or France.
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.... although that is not always the case, all these short notice operators are often fully utilised mid July (especially with others using the old faithful subcharter airlines) EuroAtlantic, Titan, HiFly etc
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It's all very well slagging off an airline when they delay a flight - or cancel. The latter being worse in some respect as they then just wash their hands whereas during a delay accommodation and refreshments are "usually" provided (no need for examples of where this isn't we all know not all operators play by the books)
The company I work for tried to sub charter last week to cover a tech aircraft overseas. Couldn't get an airframe from anywhere - they were all unavailable. Could this have been a similar problem for ASL/Thomson? Not the pax fault but may explain the time taken to get those pax to their destination.
Also I understand why they continued with DLM and CFU. Why delay a further 4 rotations and disrupt another 600? pax. FAO pax won't like it but operationally it made sense.
I wonder how many seats were available on routes from EDI, GLA & NCL that could have been utilised to get pax on their way.
The company I work for tried to sub charter last week to cover a tech aircraft overseas. Couldn't get an airframe from anywhere - they were all unavailable. Could this have been a similar problem for ASL/Thomson? Not the pax fault but may explain the time taken to get those pax to their destination.
Also I understand why they continued with DLM and CFU. Why delay a further 4 rotations and disrupt another 600? pax. FAO pax won't like it but operationally it made sense.
I wonder how many seats were available on routes from EDI, GLA & NCL that could have been utilised to get pax on their way.
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Passengers don't think about this aspect of EU261, naturally, until it affects them.
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Sunwing 737 C-GNCH operated out of Aberdeen
BY8034/BY8035 Aberdeen -Palma was graced with 737 C-GNCH last night 21st
Was sent up from Norwich
What was the reason if anyone knows
Our Saturday schedule was bit late due to her trip out to Aberdeen
Was sent up from Norwich
What was the reason if anyone knows
Our Saturday schedule was bit late due to her trip out to Aberdeen
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Incident: Sunwing B738 at Belfast on Jul 21st 2017, overran runway on takeoff
Surprised this has flown under the radar on many aviation forums. Runway approach lighting pole was found to be bent so this looks to have been pretty close to being messy.
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Given the length of the runway at BFS this is a pretty serious incident, which as you state above has slipped under the radar on these forums.
If a B737-800 is struggling to take off within 2800m of runway then some pretty serious miscalculation of takeoff performance has occurred here, so quite right if the flight deck crew (Sunwing) have been temporarily suspended. Don't think i've ever heard of a B738 takeoff run as long as that.
Lucky it was at BFS with a longer runway, if that was at BRS, CWL or others it would have ended in catastrophe.
If a B737-800 is struggling to take off within 2800m of runway then some pretty serious miscalculation of takeoff performance has occurred here, so quite right if the flight deck crew (Sunwing) have been temporarily suspended. Don't think i've ever heard of a B738 takeoff run as long as that.
Lucky it was at BFS with a longer runway, if that was at BRS, CWL or others it would have ended in catastrophe.