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Old 24th Jul 2011, 18:45   #1381 (permalink)
 
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Just to add to my previous comments. As 32/14 reports, the new generation of aircraft should be able to do much more from smaller runways, and that may indeed be our saviour for long haul. I can remember when Bks Airways Elizabethans diverted away from Leeds when the old shorter runway was wet and litttle has changed since then operationally, een now aircraft are still considering diverting when our runway is wet, but of course rules and regulations change all the time.
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Old 25th Jul 2011, 21:26   #1382 (permalink)
 
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Hopefully the 787 will make a difference at LBA.

As for PIA the airline seems to go back on everything they say/do and it was the station manager for PIA who said he been told the route is likely to be pulled after November.

And for ryanair @ Man, it just goes to show they can't have it their way all the time.
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Old 26th Jul 2011, 15:29   #1383 (permalink)
 
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LBA Drop Off Fee

Leeds Bradford Airport boss defends drop off fee


The new drop off parking fee at Leeds Bradford Airport has been defended by an airport boss as necessary to help offset the 3 million cost of upgrading the apron area outside the terminal, the Telegraph & Argus reports.

Tony Hallwood, LBIA commercial director, told Bradford business leaders that the 2 charge for the drop-off and pick-up car park was in line with fees at other airports such as Manchester, Newcastle and Bristol. He added that the introduction of charges followed extensive work on airport facilities, which formed part of a longer-term major investment programme that would see the terminal building and passenger services vastly improved.

Leeds Bradford Airport boss defends drop off fee : Leeds Bradford Airport News Stories
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Old 26th Jul 2011, 21:05   #1384 (permalink)
 
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If they are finally going to put covered walkways and air bridges all the way down the ramp then I will happily pay the drop off charge.

however i suspect the cash will be spent on more shops in the retail area !!!! call me a cynic
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Old 27th Jul 2011, 05:43   #1385 (permalink)
 
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Cue even more congestion on the laybys and the small roundabouts on the local roads. I will happily walk 100yds to avoid a 2 quid charge.
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Old 27th Jul 2011, 10:10   #1386 (permalink)
 
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Tony Hallwood, LBIA commercial director, told Bradford business leaders that the 2 charge for the drop-off and pick-up car park was in line with fees at other airports such as Manchester, Newcastle and Bristol.
Rubbish - there is no drop off fee at MAN

Not sure about NCL and BRS

Is this a case of misleading people by the Commercial Director or sloppy reporting - or both - a journo just regurgitating a press release without checking?

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Old 27th Jul 2011, 10:22   #1387 (permalink)
 
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I think the LBIA Guy was thinking of the cost of short-stay car parks around Departures. But drop off is definitely free, albeit busy.
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Old 27th Jul 2011, 10:27   #1388 (permalink)
 
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But there is a pick up fee at Manchester. The fee at Bristol and Newcastle is 1. Is that in line with 2?
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Old 27th Jul 2011, 10:30   #1389 (permalink)
 
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Pick up fee at Manchester!? Not sure about that. Short stay pickup car park at Arrivals is either 2.00 or 1.50 for up to 1 hour.

Driving alongside Arrivals at least in T2 from my recollection was free.
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Old 27th Jul 2011, 10:38   #1390 (permalink)
 
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But there is a pick up fee at Manchester. The fee at Bristol and Newcastle is 1. Is that in line with 2?
http://www.manchesterairport.co.uk/m...sf/Content/Car

It is easy to pick up or drop off - all terminals have drop off areas. To pick up at the airport you are need to park in the short stay car parks.

We have drop off areas for all terminals. For pick up there is a 2.20 charge for up to 30 minutes.
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Old 27th Jul 2011, 10:39   #1391 (permalink)
 
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He was referring to both pick up and drop off car parking and pointing out that some charge for both and others charge for one or the other, but the principle of some kind of drop off and/or pick up charges are common place.

As far as I am aware, MAN offers free drop off - but no waiting - but there is no free pick up. Indeed, the MAN website has the following comment in its 'Pick up and drop off' section which seems to confirm this

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There is no free pick-up allowed anywhere on-site. The Turn Up and Pay Short Stay Price for up to 30 minutes is 2.20
Is this no longer the case - i.e. you can pick up passengers from the terminal front now, for free at MAN?

Of course with fuel prices at 1.30 to 1.40 a litre, there's probably a far bigger cost difference in the drive there and back than there is a couple of pounds in car parking
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Old 27th Jul 2011, 11:24   #1392 (permalink)
 
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2Planks: I'd be more worried about the price of a pint in the terminal or on board your flight than a drop off charge..2.50 darn here in BOH for drop off , but then with a pint costing 5 its enough to in yer beer

However the issue of free access to airports is now with EU Transport Commissioner, Siim Kallas. He has said that the EU's transport directorate would raise the drop-off charge with the European Observatory on Airport Capacity, which has the remit to address the question of access to all of Europe's airports.

Just watch the pick up charge double though to compensate for any EU free drop off legislation....and yes its about time those idiots at LBIA put some covered walkways in down the ramp like BRS...We're not all hard as nails twelve cans of wife beater northerners you know
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Old 27th Jul 2011, 11:30   #1393 (permalink)
 
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Bristol, Newcastle & East Midlands charge 1 while Bournemouth charges 2.50p for pick/drop off fees. Manchester also has a 2.20 pick up free for arriving passengers. (But dose include 30 mins parking)

Meanwhile Airports at Newquay 5, Teeside 6 and Blackpool 10 charge a development fee instead that have to be paid by all departing passengers. Not just car drivers.

So would you rather pay the 6 to 10 development fee instead of the now lower priced 2 (4 return) drop off/pick up fee which is only paid by car users at Leeds/Bradford?

The fee can be avoided at LBA by parking in the Long stay Car Park 3. As its still free to park in there for up to 1 hour. It can also be avoided by using either one of the airport bus services which operate from Leeds (757), Bradford (737/747), Harrogate (737) and Otley (967).
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Old 27th Jul 2011, 14:28   #1394 (permalink)
 
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It amazes me how a company can buy an airport with the promise of a multi million pound investment and developement, then in a deceptive way charge the airport users to pay for the investment!!!!
Does this happen at Leeds City Railway Station!!!! Maybe they should do the same as LBA, as they are going to spend millions doing the railway station up, this way the user will foot the bill and there will be more money in profits for the railway owners. The airport company should not be charging the airport customer for work done, its like Tesco saying that they are going to build a new supermarket, but could all the people that will use it please give us 2 everytime you do.......its disgraceful!!!
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Old 27th Jul 2011, 19:55   #1395 (permalink)
 
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So where does the money come from?
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Old 27th Jul 2011, 20:58   #1396 (permalink)
 
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Apparantly you cant stop anywhere near to the terminal to drop off either. They`ve thought of that...according a to a friend of mine who got caught out, they have double yellow peril lines all over the place re inforced by a squad of` `parking wardens` armed with electronic number plate recorders so they know where to send the `bill` to

I`m not getting into the rights and wrongs of charging, but sadly word gets out and it sends the wrong signals, which may be to the detriment of LBIA...

Still at least at Liverpool you still get 10 mins free to pick up and drop off
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Old 27th Jul 2011, 23:01   #1397 (permalink)
 
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Liverpool airport returned a 5.1 million loss in 2010.
If they could scrape another couple of quid from each passenger, they would have made a profit. Airport losses have been driven by the demand for lower and lower fares where the airports have to rely on shops and parking. So, those who talk about airport rip offs, would they invest in one? No, I thought not.
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Old 28th Jul 2011, 07:36   #1398 (permalink)
 
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Well said, the very essence of so many airport problems, or as they say in those parts, 'yer don't get owt for nowt'
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Old 28th Jul 2011, 10:50   #1399 (permalink)
 
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WAWKRK - LBIA is a for profit company in a capitalist country - they can choose to charge what they like. I am a customer in a capitalist country - I can choose my airport. I am equidsitant from 3 local airports. All things considered in business you have to speculate to accumulate. Currently (IMHO) LBIA is a crowded, dirty airport with poor transport links where punctuality is poor (especially if you take into account the time it sometime takes to get from the remote stands). This new charge just makes the experience that little bit worse. Just because other airports do it doesn't make it good business sense, look at the pit of despair that is Durham Tees Valley. That's all.
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Old 28th Jul 2011, 13:49   #1400 (permalink)
 
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Yeh, whatever.
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