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Old 22nd Apr 2015, 19:51
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Not if they are getting rid of the E195s as planned - aren't most holiday destinations already covered anyway?
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Old 5th May 2015, 09:04
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Diversions in May

Here we are in early May and Leeds Bradford Airport (681 ft above sea level) is 200 metres in low cloud. Diversions are happening. Holding is taking place. Aviation fuel is being burnt. Knock on delays will now happen costing airlines lots of money. Passengers are missing meetings and connections. Passengers holidays are being eroded. Every month this year diversions have taken place.

So when will Air India be bringing their new dream liners in to an area where there is a lack of Indian businesses (that's what the meeting is about) and people? To an airport with a short, restricted runway, pointing in the wrong direction on a bumpy, pushed for space hill top? Where in 7 years no extra parking stands have been constructed. No wonder it's a 'medium' term plan.

The spotters/enthusiasts in the Yeadon region need to get a grip. If you want to help Yorkshire and the Leeds City region "there might be a better location"! & I don't mean in the Lincolnshire wolds. It's time you started backing the right horse.

18 miles away, sat on two of the country's busiest rail routes the visibility is 10km or more.
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Old 5th May 2015, 09:25
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Shuttle Diversion today

Misty morning - Shuttle 20A after a long time in the hold at FL80 with RVR around 300m for Rwy14, diverts back to LHR. Within 10 minutes or so of it heading south, the RVR lifts to around 1,000m. There must be a reason for LHR being used as a distant alternate, when there are BA Shuttle ops into MCR. Must be very frustrating for those passengers trying to get to Leeds...
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Old 5th May 2015, 10:20
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Originally Posted by slatgrille
Misty morning - Shuttle 20A after a long time in the hold at FL80 with RVR around 300m for Rwy14, diverts back to LHR. Within 10 minutes or so of it heading south, the RVR lifts to around 1,000m. There must be a reason for LHR being used as a distant alternate, when there are BA Shuttle ops into MCR. Must be very frustrating for those passengers trying to get to Leeds...
It's not mist. It's not even fog (by the precise definition of the many types). It is cloud.

Leeds Bradford Airport is quite literally in the clouds. When you build an airport 681 feet above mean sea level this is what very frequently happens (even as we approach Summer).

The first commercial flight to anywhere from Leeds East Airport - I'll be on it! The 5 or 6 million inhabitants of Yorkshire will never look back.
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Old 5th May 2015, 10:35
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you will have to live a long long time for that
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Old 5th May 2015, 11:47
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Yes, Cloud. Fog, mist, pea soup notwithstanding, I was just making the point that as an alternate for Leeds, going back to Heathrow is frustrating. Bit more than a bus-ride away. Then we see that the next scheduled Shuttle today is already cancelled as well.
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Old 5th May 2015, 12:23
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Originally Posted by LEEDS APPROACH
The 5 or 6 million inhabitants of Yorkshire will never look back.
Indeed. They'll look West.......
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Old 5th May 2015, 14:21
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Thought they faced East, a few times a day.

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Old 5th May 2015, 14:43
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Never mind, there's a new electronic billboard on the old Yorkshire Post building --- Manchester Airport, your window to the world, over 200 destinations.
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Old 5th May 2015, 15:19
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Originally Posted by anothertyke
Never mind, there's a new electronic billboard on the old Yorkshire Post building --- Manchester Airport, your window to the world, over 200 destinations.
Perhaps they realise the game is up? White Rose International will change the face of Northern civil aviation and be a fit for purpose airport that all true tykes can be proud of. Spotters at Yeadon will have to get on the train - it's only half an hour away so don't worry.
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Old 5th May 2015, 18:29
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Oh God, here we go again...change the record
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Old 5th May 2015, 18:56
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You've travelled hours from San Francisco (or Beijing) made a connection in England's famous capital and begun your flight to England's biggest and one of its most well known counties. It's May and you have looked forward to your brief visit for months.

You hold in the air above Leeds Bradford Airport and then have to divert back to London two hours after you set off. Exhausted now. Is this passenger encouraged to visit Yorkshire again?

Not a very good advert for Yorkshire. It is simply not good enough and in real terms there is absolutely no reason for it. I wont shut up about it until something is done about it. This is my right as a citizen of England and Yorkshire. Perhaps I care more about West Yorkshire than you do Paul? Civil aviation in Yorkshire is the joke of Europe.
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Old 5th May 2015, 19:18
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Well if Leeds/Bradford Airport's partnership with Middlesbrough FC wasn't bad enough for Peel Airports, It's now gone one step further and become the official Airport partner for Sheffield Wednesday FC.

Owls fly with Leeds Bradford Airport partnership
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Old 5th May 2015, 19:33
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This is my right as a citizen of England and Yorkshire.
Seriously...
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Old 5th May 2015, 20:20
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I'd be interested to know just how many foreign originating tourists use LBA as a gateway to Yorkshire..?

I would have thought most international tourists (particularly those travelling long haul) would fly into London and use that as a base for surface access to the rest of the country..?
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Old 5th May 2015, 20:23
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why don't you ask the owner of church-fenton if he intends to spend millions of pounds on c/f to bring it up the standard required for a licence, then at least you could stop bleating on about it if the answer is no.
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Old 5th May 2015, 20:35
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I find it a little sad when posters lurk waiting for someone else's aviation comment only to make comment on that comment without talking about aviation. Counter argument - yes but please refrain from the disparaging remarks with cartoons. It's just very spotterish.
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Old 5th May 2015, 20:54
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Originally Posted by snowman 1
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why don't you ask the owner of church-fenton if he intends to spend millions of pounds on c/f to bring it up the standard required for a licence, then at least you could stop bleating on about it if the answer is no.
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I've been told that if I don't shut up I might be stuck with Yeadon on the hill so I'm going to calm my enthusiasm/bleating. I would suggest you google certain things though and read between the lines. #WhiteRoseInternational -an airport for the whole North East.
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Old 5th May 2015, 21:51
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Leeds Approach. Please if you are going to start banging your drum again, would you be kind enough to do it on the Church Fenton thread you created. Leave the Leeds thread for discussing happenings at LBA. You have made your veiws clear on this thread already. Those that wish to debate Leeds East becoming the new Yorkshire international can have their discussions on your new thread. I may even read it from time to time. I hope your dreams for CF come true but for now we have an airport in Leeds that seems to operate ok despite all its insurmountable problems.
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Old 6th May 2015, 04:13
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Practically all the Americans I have had the pleasure of meeting would always arrive at Heathrow and use onward road or rail transport from there and doubt very much if they use internal air transport. Where is Manchester I was asked a number of times when the aircraft we were on diverted there because of bad weather in the London area. Where is Leeds - I think most Americans would think Leeds was something attached to a plug!
P.S. I am a Yorkshireman.
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