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Old 11th July 2008, 08:42   #1 (permalink)
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SIA A388 EGLL alternates?

This question came up, unanswered, on another forum, but someone on here is sure to know.

Given that very few airports are yet capable of accommodating the A380, what are SIA's alternates for Heathrow? Clearly they haven't needed to divert anywhere as yet, but if and when they did, where would it go ?

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Old 11th July 2008, 09:43   #2 (permalink)
 
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Read somewhere that it is Amsterdam and/or CDG.
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Old 11th July 2008, 09:57   #3 (permalink)
 
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BHX is one diversion point according to a CAA A380 airfield diversion compliance letter I read last year. Code 'E' runway and taxiways etc but obviously only as a fuel or emergency diversion as cannot take off fully laden on the existing runway. Maybe after 2012 though when the extension is built?

So I guess most of the other major UK airports fall into the same catagory.

Im not sure on SIA's existing diversion points, but as a guess they are probably airports that are huge or are already handling A380's so will have all the necessary kit ie AMS, CDG or FRA.
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I suppose a mix of A380 ready airports and airports that already have an SQ service (that way they have ground agents who know the SQ method of dealing with pax/diversions/compensation procedure etc etc.)
This weekeds visit of the A380 to MAN will se if it can be 'officialy' recognised as a diversion point, as rumour has it that its due to double back from LPL and land at MAN
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FRA & CDG are the SIA official diversion airfields for the LHR services.
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Following is a current NOTAM for Gatwick airport.
Not sure if acceptable for SIA - however still better than sending pax to FRA!

EGKK AD AVBL AS A FILED ALTERNATIVE FOR A380 ACFT. PPR WITH 30MIN NOTICE
FOR LANDING AND TAKEOFF. MAX TKOF WT 391 TONNES
FLIGHT LEVEL FROM SFC TO UNL
VALID FROM 1249 13-MAY-2008 TO 1700 19-DEC-2008: (A1369/08)
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Frankurt is SIAs preferred alternate from LL at the moment.
The A380 is a code 'F' aircraft so Birminghams code 'E' runway and taxiways are unable to handle such an aircraft.
So how does an A380 performing a missed approach at Manchester 'offcially' recognise Manchester as a diversion point ?

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point 5,
I did say IF RUMOUR HAS IT THAT THE A380 WILL COME BACK AND LAND
I know that a missed approach will not give it diversion point status, otherwise we could say LPL will be a diversion point also.
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Old 13th July 2008, 00:12   #9 (permalink)
 
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Point 5

The CAA have obviously done their calculations and measurements on BHXs runway/taxiways or else they wouldnt have made it an A380 diversion alternate
BHX has handled C5 Galaxys, 744s and huge Antonovs in the past so the A380 is not dis-similar in size really. Runway width is 46 meters.
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Not true, it is way bigger. Really.
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Old 13th July 2008, 20:10   #11 (permalink)
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A380 - Man

MAN is currently not listed as an alternate for SQ. However as Airbus make more deliveries to airlines that already serve the airport, that may change.

23R -05L is able to accommodate the A380, having the length and most importantly, the strengthened shoulders to 60m. There are major taxiway works underway at the moment. Whilst most work is replacement, elements of the airfield capacity plan will provide Code F routes.

Code F's can be handled, but require an Airfield Ops service, and non-standard parking remote on the West Apron. This is until the work is completed on Stand 12, and also on Pier C, Stand 31. This being undertaken as Emirates have suggested to the Airport that they intend to operate an A380 to Dubai by around 2010.

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EGPK / Prestwick is capable of handling the giant...

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