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Old 9th June 2008, 11:46   #1 (permalink)
 
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Bmibaby

I was wondering how WW is coping with the oil prices?

Also i wanted to know when the winter schedules will be released
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Old 9th June 2008, 14:09   #2 (permalink)
 
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BmiBaby Future

It looks like it is make or break month for BmiBaby....

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The decision on the airlines future operations is set to be made in the next month.
http://www.compare-airport-parking.c...-Cutbacks.html

Lets hope they continue to operate and expand from all of there hubs.
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Old 9th June 2008, 15:46   #3 (permalink)
 
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baby is safe

If you look at the baby website there are new routes coming in the near feature and new boss too. I dont think baby is going anywhere fast like the rest of the bmi group.
New routes Milan, Madrid and Barelona.
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Old 9th June 2008, 17:20   #4 (permalink)
 
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Mr Flaps

What's this about a new boss at Baby. Please do tell more!!
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Old 9th June 2008, 20:37   #5 (permalink)
 
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Think Big Brother Turnher will keep WW floating.

Think if WW finished, MB would see this as a personal failure.

BD/BMI don't do failure after 60+ years of op's.
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Old 10th June 2008, 23:53   #6 (permalink)
 
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Ryanair MK2

Bmibaby announce a £4-6 charge for the pleasure of checking in at the airport, mirroring the charge MOL introduced over a year ago.
INET check in will be increased for the Spanish destinations as well however pax must still queue at check in to submit APIS details and if they dont they will be offloaded at the gate (no appeal). negates the advantage of INET check in really!!!
FR & EZE both do APIS on line & if the pax has not submitted within 24hrs of Flt , booking is suspended.
I can see a good few arguements over this one.
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Old 11th June 2008, 10:53   #7 (permalink)
 
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So does anyone know when baby will release seats for winter 08/09?
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Old 11th June 2008, 11:29   #8 (permalink)
 
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Give me strength!!! Have we hit an all time low on P.prune...

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''The decision on the airlines future operations is set to be made in the next month. ''

The quote is from COMPARE AIRPORT PARKING.com!!!!

Guess that's what the dogger's think then
- but please hardly the sharp or most informed end of the aviation industry!!

regards bbb
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Old 12th June 2008, 02:45   #9 (permalink)
 
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BmiBaby is introducing a check-in fee of £6 at airport and £4 if you let them know when you book online.

Until the system is up and running then the winter flights cannot be uploaded. (A case of all winter flights will be subject to these charges).

I doubt baby are pulling out of Cardiff as they have sent new barriers over for check-in, along with new cabin baggage measure scales and that Cardiff is one of the places listed on with these check-in charges.

Baby is here to stay and if the 5 a/c from Virgin Nigeria along with the other that is due then i would expect to see a 4th a/c at Cardiff.
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Old 12th June 2008, 23:03   #10 (permalink)
 
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well why introduce the checking in fee at cardiff if they were going to close the base, according to the bmibaby station manager at cardiff, it is not true.
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Old 13th June 2008, 00:04   #11 (permalink)
 
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The only thing that we're closing at the moment is the window in Ops, cos it's bloody chilly tonight !
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Old 16th June 2008, 12:57   #12 (permalink)
 
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Various business news sources are today saying that Baby are going to double the MAN operation, with more destinations in France, Spain, Italy and Poland. 100 more jobs will be created, according to Crawford Rix.

Anybody got some more info?
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Old 16th June 2008, 13:39   #13 (permalink)
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Sounds like the press release put out on 22 May to me.

http://news.ebookers.com/news/bmibab...rt-growth/002/

TA
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Old 17th June 2008, 01:29   #14 (permalink)
 
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Are WW starting to suffer with their older a/c? Tonight some pretty major delays in and out of BHX, with EDI being badly effected. the 1006 operated to EMA with pax being bussed. The a/c also suffered a tech fault in EDI with a fuel pump fault, which caused a further delay.

When travelling as a passenger, I regularly chose WW over competition. But some of the delays I have seen recently lead me to wonder how long WW have before their older fleet let them down.

With EZY and FR in much stronger positions both financially and with modern aircraft, I hope they dont squash airlines such as WW, but all the facts sadly seem to point this way in the next 12 - 18 months.

It would be such a tradegy to see an airline with superior customer service (in comparison to other LCC's) go under due to market conditions.
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Old 17th June 2008, 10:04   #15 (permalink)
 
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What will their reaction be to the new FR routes launched today, does this put them in serious trouble ?
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Old 17th June 2008, 18:24   #16 (permalink)
 
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No. Why should it?
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Old 17th June 2008, 19:17   #17 (permalink)
 
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Topslide6

Basic rules of aviation economics make it plain that todays announcements mean Baby will lose £4.5m to £5m in revenue from the routes FR are now in competition with them on. So yes it will have a very big effect. They will have to adjust capacity or it's a £5m hit to an already negative bottom line.
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Old 17th June 2008, 19:27   #18 (permalink)
 
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FR and BmiBaby

Yes this is true, however by BmiBaby should be able to cope as they have battled with Ryanair at EMA and seem to have done very well. On the Alicante route they battled with Easyjet and Ryanair and seem to do okay..
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Old 17th June 2008, 21:21   #19 (permalink)
 
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adam12345, exactly. Ryanair being at EMA actually created revenue and passengers.

Uncovered, I assume you are an 'airline economist', or work in airline management in some capacity and have some knowledge and experience to back up your statement. Didn't think so.

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...or it's a £5m hit to an already negative bottom line.
Proof? No. Didn't think that either.
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Old 18th June 2008, 14:04   #20 (permalink)
 
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Winter Schedule

BmiBaby have today released there winter schedule.
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