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Bristol Bath Airport or Bath Bristol Airport anyone?
The idea has been shot down by BRS...
BBC News - Bristol Airport rejects calls to add Bath to its name
The idea has been shot down by BRS...
BBC News - Bristol Airport rejects calls to add Bath to its name
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Long Haul
Have been advised from a reliable source within an operational unit ( not ground handling ) at the airport that the L/H operation (TOM 787 ) will be returning next summer, Anyone heard this or know anything about it ?.
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Bristol Bath Airport or Bath Bristol Airport anyone?
The idea has been shot down by BRS...
BBC News - Bristol Airport rejects calls to add Bath to its name
The idea has been shot down by BRS...
BBC News - Bristol Airport rejects calls to add Bath to its name
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I see we have a new taxi provider for the Airport - Arrow Cars.
I used them at MAN in February (using their app), and it was pretty good. I think getting onto a company that has a better technology base will be good protection should Uber / Hailo etc. launch in the area.
I used them at MAN in February (using their app), and it was pretty good. I think getting onto a company that has a better technology base will be good protection should Uber / Hailo etc. launch in the area.
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BM BRS-DUS
BM are going to start BRS-DUS on 27APR, which is another great addition to the German network.
DUS is a LH mini-hub, and will host their new long-haul leisure brand, so it'll be interesting to see if the BM flight picks up LH/EW codeshares.
DUS is a LH mini-hub, and will host their new long-haul leisure brand, so it'll be interesting to see if the BM flight picks up LH/EW codeshares.
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Can't see it not to be honest.
BM is turning into a privately owned LH group feeder airline that operates the odd flight outside of the LH group.
Can't in all honesty see BM launching a route to DUS without an agreement to have LH codes added.
cs
BM is turning into a privately owned LH group feeder airline that operates the odd flight outside of the LH group.
Can't in all honesty see BM launching a route to DUS without an agreement to have LH codes added.
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DUS is a LH mini-hub, and will host their new long-haul leisure brand, so it'll be interesting to see if the BM flight picks up LH/EW codeshares
The first Eurowings long haul flights are from Cologne
Düsseldorf is the principal airport in Nordrheinwestfalen, and at the centre of Germany's industrial powerhouse.
As such, independent of any Lufthansa / Eurowings / Germanwings hub, a city such as Bristol, and it's hinterland should easily be able to support at least minimum once daily business orientated service to DUS, though clearly a twice daily morning and evening weekday service would be preferable for business. Other major UK regional airports support a multi daily DUS service, and have done for many years.
Still, from little acorns, large oak trees grow.
As such, independent of any Lufthansa / Eurowings / Germanwings hub, a city such as Bristol, and it's hinterland should easily be able to support at least minimum once daily business orientated service to DUS, though clearly a twice daily morning and evening weekday service would be preferable for business. Other major UK regional airports support a multi daily DUS service, and have done for many years.
Still, from little acorns, large oak trees grow.
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I'm assuming that the LH Long-haul flights ex-DUS will eventually migrate to EW, if LH stick to their guns on the 'LH only to/from MUC and FRA' policy.
I hadn't spotted at time of posting that the DUS flight was an evening flight. If it goes double-daily then a morning flight would surely arrive in time to connect to the lunchtime departures to EWR and ORD. There's usually a reasonable chance of getting award seats on those flights, hence the attraction over flying via FRA and MUC.
I wonder if DUS was a more attractive destination than CGN. Surely it wouldn't make sense to serve both?
I hadn't spotted at time of posting that the DUS flight was an evening flight. If it goes double-daily then a morning flight would surely arrive in time to connect to the lunchtime departures to EWR and ORD. There's usually a reasonable chance of getting award seats on those flights, hence the attraction over flying via FRA and MUC.
I wonder if DUS was a more attractive destination than CGN. Surely it wouldn't make sense to serve both?
I wonder if DUS was a more attractive destination than CGN. Surely it wouldn't make sense to serve both?
Attempts at BHX to serve both DUS and CGN have (always) ended in tears - with CGN losing out to the frequency and yield on DUS services.
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easyJet
There was a piece on the airport website last week saying that easyJet has placed on sale at BRS 'a record number of flights and routes' for the coming winter.
I note that both EDI and GLA appear to have improved frequencies next winter with, for most of the winter, EDI operating 5 x daily on Mondays and Fridays and 4 x daily for the rest of the week except Saturdays which remain single daily.
GLA will be 4 x daily on Sundays, Mondays, Thursdays and Fridays; 3 x daily on Tuesdays and Wednesdays with, as with EDI, Saturdays remaining at single daily.
With Thomson operating an enhanced programme next winter as well as (possibly) bmi regional, BRS should begin to narrow the gap a bit between its summer feast and relative winter famine (in 2014 January saw 342,000 passengers against August's 730,000).
The latest CAA stats are for February this year and show that the airport handled 381,074 passengers in the month, up 3.5% on February 2014 (atms were up 0.8%) with the rolling 12-month passenger total 6,364,159, an increase of 3.2% on a year ago.
Great Western Cities
In recent weeks there has been speculation on the CWL thread about the Wales Assembly Government's role in providing funding for Flybe's initiative at the airport and how this might impact on BRS. Incidentally, with the publicly announced decision of two or three months ago that the WAG would make £13 million available in stages as a loan to its airport company for route development, it was always going to be extremely likely that a positive outcome for the airport would result, and I expect further developments.
What may not be so widely known is that in February the political leadership in the cities of Bristol, Cardiff and Newport agreed to form what is effectively a super city region (under the title Great Western Cities) in order to boost the Severnside economy and develop renewable energy. The cities have already formed partnerships to shape transport plans although it doesn't appear likely that the respective airports will feature in this.
Given that for many years Bristol and Cardiff have been earnest rivals in all manner of things, the coming together is an interesting concept. It remains to be seen how it will work out and what, if any, effect it will have on BRS and CWL. Bristol and Bath (another former arch rival) have been working together quite successfully in recent years to boost tourism in their regions so perhaps the spirit of co-operation is well and truly abroad.
I note that both EDI and GLA appear to have improved frequencies next winter with, for most of the winter, EDI operating 5 x daily on Mondays and Fridays and 4 x daily for the rest of the week except Saturdays which remain single daily.
GLA will be 4 x daily on Sundays, Mondays, Thursdays and Fridays; 3 x daily on Tuesdays and Wednesdays with, as with EDI, Saturdays remaining at single daily.
With Thomson operating an enhanced programme next winter as well as (possibly) bmi regional, BRS should begin to narrow the gap a bit between its summer feast and relative winter famine (in 2014 January saw 342,000 passengers against August's 730,000).
The latest CAA stats are for February this year and show that the airport handled 381,074 passengers in the month, up 3.5% on February 2014 (atms were up 0.8%) with the rolling 12-month passenger total 6,364,159, an increase of 3.2% on a year ago.
Great Western Cities
In recent weeks there has been speculation on the CWL thread about the Wales Assembly Government's role in providing funding for Flybe's initiative at the airport and how this might impact on BRS. Incidentally, with the publicly announced decision of two or three months ago that the WAG would make £13 million available in stages as a loan to its airport company for route development, it was always going to be extremely likely that a positive outcome for the airport would result, and I expect further developments.
What may not be so widely known is that in February the political leadership in the cities of Bristol, Cardiff and Newport agreed to form what is effectively a super city region (under the title Great Western Cities) in order to boost the Severnside economy and develop renewable energy. The cities have already formed partnerships to shape transport plans although it doesn't appear likely that the respective airports will feature in this.
Given that for many years Bristol and Cardiff have been earnest rivals in all manner of things, the coming together is an interesting concept. It remains to be seen how it will work out and what, if any, effect it will have on BRS and CWL. Bristol and Bath (another former arch rival) have been working together quite successfully in recent years to boost tourism in their regions so perhaps the spirit of co-operation is well and truly abroad.
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Transatlantic scheduled
Bristol Airport Targets the Return of Transatlantic Service :: Routesonline
Shaun Browne, BRS aviation director, has said that the airport is 'very confident' of getting a New York scheduled service in 2016. He said that 'talks are in an advanced stage'. The airport came very close to achieving such a service for this year.
It seems likely that there wouldn't be two such services from Severnside and the CWL ownership and management have made it very clear that they want a New York route.
Based on the size and make-up of the respective catchments there seems little doubt that BRS would have an advantage. Operationally, CWL holds the better hand although the Continental B 757-200 seemed to have no problems during the five and half years it operated BRS-EWR.
Politics may yet have the final say if the next UK government decides to devolve APD to Wales, something that seems likely if Labour has to rely on the Scottish Nationalists and Plaid Cymru to govern the UK, where a quid pro quo or two (or more) will be looked for. Without some form of compensating mechanism for England or the English regions CWL would have a considerable advantage over its neighbour when it came to long haul.
Shaun Browne, BRS aviation director, has said that the airport is 'very confident' of getting a New York scheduled service in 2016. He said that 'talks are in an advanced stage'. The airport came very close to achieving such a service for this year.
It seems likely that there wouldn't be two such services from Severnside and the CWL ownership and management have made it very clear that they want a New York route.
Based on the size and make-up of the respective catchments there seems little doubt that BRS would have an advantage. Operationally, CWL holds the better hand although the Continental B 757-200 seemed to have no problems during the five and half years it operated BRS-EWR.
Politics may yet have the final say if the next UK government decides to devolve APD to Wales, something that seems likely if Labour has to rely on the Scottish Nationalists and Plaid Cymru to govern the UK, where a quid pro quo or two (or more) will be looked for. Without some form of compensating mechanism for England or the English regions CWL would have a considerable advantage over its neighbour when it came to long haul.
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Great news!
I wonder who it is? Realistically there are only two possibilities I guess- American and United. I hope it is the former, but I expect it to be the latter.
With it being rumoured that TOM will bring LH back too, late 2015/2016 could be a very good one for BRS!
Now I wonder if there is any chance of TK doing anything, or one of the ME3 putting one of their shiny new 787/A350s (the only aircraft in their fleets they realistically could operate from BRS) on a daily any time soon? I think BRS has definitely 'earned' it from pax numbers. It must be one of the busiest airports in Europe with no long(ish) haul routes!!
I wonder who it is? Realistically there are only two possibilities I guess- American and United. I hope it is the former, but I expect it to be the latter.
With it being rumoured that TOM will bring LH back too, late 2015/2016 could be a very good one for BRS!
Now I wonder if there is any chance of TK doing anything, or one of the ME3 putting one of their shiny new 787/A350s (the only aircraft in their fleets they realistically could operate from BRS) on a daily any time soon? I think BRS has definitely 'earned' it from pax numbers. It must be one of the busiest airports in Europe with no long(ish) haul routes!!
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TOM long haul
Thomson and First Choice drive on with exclusive product agenda - www.travelweekly.co.uk
The above link appears to suggest that TOM long haul is not currently on the agenda for BRS. In fact, Severnside and the greater South West England/South Wales still don't feature at all in the plans as set out by the TUI UK/Ireland MD in the linked article.
I suppose there might be an outside chance that the company is waiting to see if the next government devolves long haul APD to Wales before committing itself to either BRS or CWL.
The above link appears to suggest that TOM long haul is not currently on the agenda for BRS. In fact, Severnside and the greater South West England/South Wales still don't feature at all in the plans as set out by the TUI UK/Ireland MD in the linked article.
I suppose there might be an outside chance that the company is waiting to see if the next government devolves long haul APD to Wales before committing itself to either BRS or CWL.
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APD
MV how much is APD on a departure to New York ?
Any reduction in APD would be offset by the costs of the greater
catchment area (ie BRS vicinity) travelling to Rhoose (inc bridge tolls)
Any reduction in APD would be offset by the costs of the greater
catchment area (ie BRS vicinity) travelling to Rhoose (inc bridge tolls)
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The long haul APD rate in economy class is now £71 and is due to rise to £73 in April 2016. Children under 12 will be exempt from APD in economy class from this May and next year those under 16 will also be exempt.
Charter routes to the likes of Florida and Mexico are obviously heavily used by family groups so the exemption of young people would to some extent nullify any advantage that an APD-free CWL might have over BRS on long haul charter flights.
Taking, say, 250 as the average load for Florida/Mexico, if everyone paid APD the amount would be just under £18,000 per flight. Exempt youngsters might reduce that to around half.
If the Wales Assembly Government was given APD powers they've already said they'd reduce the rate, to nil if they can afford to do it. If an airline passed on the entire APD saving it wouldn't make any more money per se but might attract more passengers with a lower overall fare.
An airline choosing to pass on half the APD saving would gain a bigger take on a flight and still be able to offer a lower overall fare.
Although CWL seems to struggle with some types of flight, often city and business routes, its record suggests that summer sun and long haul transatlantic charter have always been well supported in terms of passenger numbers - how that translated into profitable ventures probably only the airlines/tour companies involved would know.
I know that my examples regarding APD costs on a flight are basic and somewhat simplistic because other costs between airlines and airports feature that can be negotiated but the BRS senior management is obviously seriously concerned about Wales gaining its own APD powers.
Middle East
?Direct flights to America from Bristol Airport on the cards by next summer | Somerset Guardian
This local newspaper report comments on the NYC story that's been the subject of recent posts in this forum. It also adds that the airport hopes to 'secure aeroplanes flying from Bristol to the Middle East within the next 18 months'.
Hope and expect are different animals and it may be speculation on the part of the newspaper, although such local journals aren't usually equipped with specialist reporters in aviation matters. It may be that they have included Turkey in the Middle East. I think that most people with an interest in the subject would believe that Turkish Airlines to Istanbul is much more likely than one of the MEB3 gracing the former RAF Lulsgate Bottom.
The long haul APD rate in economy class is now £71 and is due to rise to £73 in April 2016. Children under 12 will be exempt from APD in economy class from this May and next year those under 16 will also be exempt.
Charter routes to the likes of Florida and Mexico are obviously heavily used by family groups so the exemption of young people would to some extent nullify any advantage that an APD-free CWL might have over BRS on long haul charter flights.
Taking, say, 250 as the average load for Florida/Mexico, if everyone paid APD the amount would be just under £18,000 per flight. Exempt youngsters might reduce that to around half.
If the Wales Assembly Government was given APD powers they've already said they'd reduce the rate, to nil if they can afford to do it. If an airline passed on the entire APD saving it wouldn't make any more money per se but might attract more passengers with a lower overall fare.
An airline choosing to pass on half the APD saving would gain a bigger take on a flight and still be able to offer a lower overall fare.
Although CWL seems to struggle with some types of flight, often city and business routes, its record suggests that summer sun and long haul transatlantic charter have always been well supported in terms of passenger numbers - how that translated into profitable ventures probably only the airlines/tour companies involved would know.
I know that my examples regarding APD costs on a flight are basic and somewhat simplistic because other costs between airlines and airports feature that can be negotiated but the BRS senior management is obviously seriously concerned about Wales gaining its own APD powers.
Middle East
?Direct flights to America from Bristol Airport on the cards by next summer | Somerset Guardian
This local newspaper report comments on the NYC story that's been the subject of recent posts in this forum. It also adds that the airport hopes to 'secure aeroplanes flying from Bristol to the Middle East within the next 18 months'.
Hope and expect are different animals and it may be speculation on the part of the newspaper, although such local journals aren't usually equipped with specialist reporters in aviation matters. It may be that they have included Turkey in the Middle East. I think that most people with an interest in the subject would believe that Turkish Airlines to Istanbul is much more likely than one of the MEB3 gracing the former RAF Lulsgate Bottom.