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Old 19th Feb 2012, 16:06   #1781 (permalink)
 
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The timing of the Haneda longhaul "window" makes scheduling of flights from the UK particularly difficult.

BA currently operates close to the end of the window, but still departs from Heathrow too early for feeder connections from elsewhere. Departure from Haneda is also uncomfortably early, but not quite early enough to make it worth saving a night in a hotel. Moving to early in the window might make it more user-friendly at the Tokyo end, but would involve a night departure from London.

Peter47's idea of a plane on the ground at Haneda all day could ease the timing problems, but even retrieving a 747 from the desert might not make it economic.

Another alternative, which also has drawbacks, would be to introduce an intermediate stop in somewhere like Seoul. This would probably permit an evening departure from London, arriving at Inchon (Gimpo would be better for Korean domestic connections, but is probably not acceptable to the Korean authorities) in time for a late eveing departure to get in early in the Haneda window. Return might be possible early enough to save that night's hotel in Tokyo and still arrive back in Seoul late enough to avoid any night curfews.

Obvious disadvantages are that the flight to Tokyo would no longer be non-stop and picking up passengers for the Seoul-Tokyo and return legs might difficult both practically and legally. However such a routing would introduce a British presence onto a route where there is none. It would also increase One World presence in an area currently well-served by Sky Team and *Alliance, but only by Finnair from One World.
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Old 20th Feb 2012, 12:06   #1782 (permalink)
 
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It would also increase One World presence in an area currently well-served by Sky Team and *Alliance, but only by Finnair from One World.
I think Cathay Pacific might raise an eyebrow about this - always plenty of pax on Europe to Hong Kong flights heading on there.

Tokyo has the issue seen elsewhere - a "new" airport so far from the urban area it purports to servce that no airline would use it unless forced. A generation or so later, the restrictions come off and carriers desert overnight, or as much as they are permitted, back to the old place.

Montreal was a classic for this (Mirabel now closed) and Prestwick the same for an example nearer home. Boris Island advocates please note.
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Old 20th Feb 2012, 19:38   #1783 (permalink)
 
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No, HND is very much alive and thriving!
Really

Does anyone know why it is not operating from 25th June through until 15th July??
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Old 20th Feb 2012, 21:25   #1784 (permalink)
 
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Does anyone know why it is not operating from 25th June through until 15th July??
Well it doesn't seem to be anything to do with the 5 rings or the bag of leather being kicked around eastern Europe a few weeks beforehand.

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Montreal was a classic for this (Mirabel now closed) and Prestwick the same for an example nearer home. Boris Island advocates please note.
That is (a) assuming Boris Island happens and (b) assuming that in order for it to happen, LHR closes. East to see why BA don't want it.
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Old 21st Feb 2012, 00:56   #1785 (permalink)
 
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I think Cathay Pacific might raise an eyebrow about this - always plenty of pax on Europe to Hong Kong flights heading on there.
I don't know how I forgot Cathay - I used them between Hong Kong and Seoul late last year. But there were only three of us off my BA flight and two of us plus a family of five transferring to BA on the way home. I know the numbers because both connections turned out to be much tighter than planned and we were escorted as a group from one flight to the next.
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Old 26th Feb 2012, 12:52   #1786 (permalink)
 
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Question 77W JFK days ?

Hi all, I'm wondering does anybody know the days on which BA will fly the 77W to JFK this Summer? Everywhere I look says that it will operate BA179/182 x 4 weekly but no info about which four days it is :S

Any help appreciated!
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Old 26th Feb 2012, 13:09   #1787 (permalink)
 
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Hi all, I'm wondering does anybody know the days on which BA will fly the 77W to JFK this Summer? Everywhere I look says that it will operate BA179/182 x 4 weekly but no info about which four days it is :S
From what I gather the 77W operates the BA179/BA182 Daily except day 4, so not on Thursdays...
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Old 2nd Mar 2012, 15:26   #1788 (permalink)
 
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I was interested to note on my itinerary from BA that my flight next week BR 871 from Taipei to Hong Kong is to be operated by Brymon Airways.
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Old 2nd Mar 2012, 17:45   #1789 (permalink)
 
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Recycled IATA airline code? Like Flybe (BE) using the old British European Airways (BE) IATA code.
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Old 2nd Mar 2012, 19:32   #1790 (permalink)
 
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Now allocated to EVA Airways.

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Old 2nd Mar 2012, 20:50   #1791 (permalink)
 
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Facepalm time......

BR was British Caledonian Airways, formerly British United pre merger with Caledonian Airways (Prestwick). Brymon was BC, though both were bought by BA.
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Old 2nd Mar 2012, 21:06   #1792 (permalink)
 
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I know all of the above airline codes, just found it slightly amusing that BA think BR is Brymon thats all
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Old 2nd Mar 2012, 22:13   #1793 (permalink)
 
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I know all of the above airline codes, just found it slightly amusing that BA think BR is Brymon thats all
Sure, especially as it's been EVA's IATA code since they started more than 20 years ago, in fact well before BA even bought up Brymon.

Incidentally, EVA is initals, pronounced separately (like TWA) and not as a word, although many seem to say it like "Ever". I never heard TWA called "Twar" though.
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Old 2nd Mar 2012, 22:16   #1794 (permalink)
 
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Really? Odd that given their callsign is "EVA", pronounced "eevah"! Learn something every day.
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Old 18th Mar 2012, 23:30   #1795 (permalink)
 
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Just a thought will BA ever restart flights from MAN?
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Old 18th Mar 2012, 23:45   #1796 (permalink)
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BA + MAN?

If history is anything to go by = No!
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Old 19th Mar 2012, 19:04   #1797 (permalink)
 
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Well always possible if we get stuck with BMI Regional. Never rule anything out ?
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Old 19th Mar 2012, 21:16   #1798 (permalink)
 
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Just a thought will BA ever restart flights from MAN?
What do you mean ? They are one of the largest scheduled airlines at MAN in terms of pax uplift.
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Old 19th Mar 2012, 23:22   #1799 (permalink)
 
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BA @ MAN currently operate to LHR, LGW & BLL via sun-air
They also have codeshares on certain Flymaybe routes as well as the AA transatlantic routes.

I do however agree that it would be brilliant to see something extra from BA @ MAN.

Even if BMIr do come onboard as part of the takeover do we really see BA keeping it going ? Not that it wouldnt be great to see regional flights back under the BA brand

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"Incidentally, EVA is initals, pronounced separately (like TWA) and not as a word, although many seem to say it like "Ever". I never heard TWA called "Twar" though. "

You better tell the Taiwanese then, as they were all saying it as 'Eevah' whilst I was there.
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