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Old 5th July 2009, 11:39   #2301 (permalink)
 
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Monarch

Reported on the Monarch thread and confirmed by the booking engine
it appears Monarch are to start schedule routes to FUE & LPA this
winter.

FUE is showing on a Wednesday and LPA is in the drop down but an
error is shown when trying to book.

I think Wednesdays will show LCA, TFS & FUE which is a major improvement on a couple of years ago when all aircraft were
tucked up in bed during the winter.

Volrider

Surely the buck stops with PK? What is this obsession with JK, I know
he still works there but as CEO it has to ber PK's problem doesn't it?

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Old 5th July 2009, 13:26   #2302 (permalink)

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Looks like the Army has common sense prevailing.

Just like a Westcountry Cream Tea ...
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Old 5th July 2009, 14:29   #2303 (permalink)
 
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JK was and has been there longer than PK sadly the problems were there long before PK.....
Sadly someone has to be accountable ultimately thats management, JK is only concerned with profit and not the end user unless they happen to have money hanging from their pockets, hence the charges for parking, trolleys, plastic bags and goodness knows what next.....

Anyway enough of that, I would love to see Virgin at BHX was there or is there any chance of this happening, we have two US carriers here but no British long haul since the days of BA 757 to New York. It would be nice to see something going West rather than East for a change?
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Old 5th July 2009, 15:05   #2304 (permalink)
 
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I would think not before the runway extension as B744 too big for routes and A340 300 with full load would not get off runway and I`m not sure you can handle an A340 600 at BHX because of dimensions

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Old 5th July 2009, 20:24   #2305 (permalink)
 
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Siloesid and Volrider........Gang up all you like....They are all still there on the Elmdon apron and Lima taxiway.....Not gone and left as you predicted.....
So your point was????????
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Old 5th July 2009, 20:36   #2306 (permalink)
 
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The point was Call 100 is that security is CRAP....sorry you cant work that one out, if I am wrong then how come a scallwag can cut a hole in the fence then wander not very quietly onto the airfield on a motorbike and burn a helicopter that was in view a few yards from a manned ICTS security checkpoint... I do not understand your argument on the security being good, or do we have to wait for another incursion and see another aircraft destroyed..... they all know its possible now...........
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Old 5th July 2009, 22:04   #2307 (permalink)

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call100,

It's not a case of 'they are still there', it's a case of they are back!

BHX hasn't a good record for 'incursions' on the Elmdon side, especially on Sunday nights/Monday mornings!!

Interesting to see what may be left in the morning, and I'm sure you know how that side of the airfield is manned at night !
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Old 6th July 2009, 10:00   #2308 (permalink)
 
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I understand if you guys are fed up about the security issue, but I wonder if you could clear something up for me?

In the late eighties I recall the police helicopter used to land on a moveable pad and was wheeled into a hangar at the end of the row of hangars on the Elmdon apron. It looks like a few of those hangars are gone now.

In recent times was the helicopter moved to a permanent area close to the 06/24 runway?

I wonder why that was? At watching the landing / moving process firsthand back then it seemed very quick and hasslefree.

Why were the few hangars knocked down? Had they fallen into disrepair?

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Old 6th July 2009, 10:59   #2309 (permalink)
 
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The point was Call 100 is that security is CRAP....sorry you cant work that one out, if I am wrong then how come a scallwag can cut a hole in the fence then wander not very quietly onto the airfield on a motorbike and burn a helicopter that was in view a few yards from a manned ICTS security checkpoint... I do not understand your argument on the security being good, or do we have to wait for another incursion and see another aircraft destroyed..... they all know its possible now...........
You are getting yourself tied up in knots here...I never claimed security was good....I said it would always be decided on a risk/cost basis....You both seemed to think some would leave because of it. They have not and neither have they come back, they never left. Keep having a go if you want, perhaps you think you'll change something..If you do all well and good and power to you.
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Old 6th July 2009, 12:34   #2310 (permalink)
 
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Keeprighton ( I like the title a good brummie fan) The helicopter I believe was moved when they had new offices rather than the old portacabins, the new offices are in the termianl and that landing pad was nearer.
Re the hangers well not sure what happened but as the expansion of the runway is planned then a hanger there would be right on the repositioned ILS and not useable.
Call 100 I agree that we all know security is not good but your hung up on cost, if this incident had happened to a FlyBe 195 or the Fedex ATR would cost be the implication then??? No I think that they would revise ALL security which sadly since the incident I don't think they have bothered to, which is the most annoying thing....I really hope this never happens again as there must be paperwork floating about that they cannot hide should a terrible incident take place.
They are lucky BHX as it has been quietly reported in the media, even stating it as Elmdon airport Sheldon, which we may know its the same place but joe public think its a microlight airfield or such...
Anyway thats my end line on this. Hopefully we can agree to dissagree
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Old 6th July 2009, 13:35   #2311 (permalink)

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You both seemed to think some would leave because of it. They have not and neither have they come back, they never left.
Well mr Call100, for your information, one minute it was there, the next it was gone, then it was there again.

So once again you are misinformed, they did leave and have come back.



Besides, for your information...the word on the street is that the Police Helicopter was taken out simply because it was the first aircraft they came upon and the attack was not directly aimed at the helicopter as a Police vehicle.
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Old 6th July 2009, 17:17   #2312 (permalink)
 
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Concrete Blocks Outside Old Terminal BHX.

Was amazed today driving down to the old terminal that they had blocked the bottom road of which goes past the cafe and to the front of the old terminal where the V.I.P. passengers get out of the cars to go in, It was totally blocked of with large concrete Blocks please tell me who this is going to stop. they would have been better putting the concrete blocks around the perimiter fence. Maybe Block the fence of to the right of the terminal under the old viewing balcony but Not The Whole Road. Was there any consultation with the likes of signature who handle alot of people threw there or was this just knee jerk reaction to the police helicopter attack!!! It Looks a Total eye sore
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Old 6th July 2009, 17:22   #2313 (permalink)
 
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The blocks were planned a long time ago, well before the helicopter attack and yes they are an eyesore and yes there are weaker points to the fence etc.
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Old 6th July 2009, 17:43   #2314 (permalink)

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was this just knee jerk reaction to the police helicopter attack!!!
How can it be a knee jerk reaction if the blocks were put in place weeks before the attack!

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It was totally blocked of with large concrete Blocks please tell me who this is going to stop.
It would stop the same people who did this BBC NEWS | UK | Scotland | Blazing car crashes into airport



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Old 6th July 2009, 17:53   #2315 (permalink)
 
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Would the Concrete Blocks be not better placed out side the passenger terminal To stop the same sort of Attack that happened at GLA?

Why the FBO Main Entrance?
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Old 6th July 2009, 18:25   #2316 (permalink)
 
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Have you been to the pax terminal??? try and drive a vehicle to the front....
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Old 6th July 2009, 18:46   #2317 (permalink)
 
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Yes Volroider as u say its not good outside there to Fort Knox Springs to mind

Silsoesid Fully understand where you are comming from. just my opinion they are an eyesore and to me other than the concrete blocks at the right hand side of the terminal blocking the crash gate/Fence under the old balcony. I See No purpose for them blocking that road of. Im sure the cafe has seen a Downturn in business since they were put there and I Dont think it a nice sight for a V.I.P. Turning up and seeing Concrete Blocks All over Dont see them at LTN? Just my Thoughts and Opinion
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Old 6th July 2009, 18:59   #2318 (permalink)
 
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As the subject of the arrangement at the front of T1/T2 has come up now...

Why don't BHX level off the old drop-off service road to be the same level/surface material as the adjacent pedestrian areas? It's permanently blocked off from any vehicle (emergency or otherwise) so it seems pointless to maintain this 'ghost' service road. Would be a decent plan turning a 'everyone inconvenienced/charged extra for so called airport security' into a 'increased pedestrian area/facility infront of terminal buildings'.
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Old 6th July 2009, 20:21   #2319 (permalink)

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I believe it was the police that sorted the blocks out, BHX had no security interest whatsoever.
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Well mr Call100, for your information, one minute it was there, the next it was gone, then it was there again.

So once again you are misinformed, they did leave and have come back.



Besides, for your information...the word on the street is that the Police Helicopter was taken out simply because it was the first aircraft they came upon and the attack was not directly aimed at the helicopter as a Police vehicle.
One minute it was there, the next it was there again??????????? Well of course...It's an airport...It's called flying away and coming back. If they left because of that incident why did they come back??? Assuming we all know who 'they' are.

Why would that information on the Police Helicopter be for my information?....I don't think anyone was questioning why it was attacked!!??
Where have the Police decided to move to by the way?
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