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The average time taken to process each passenger is readily calculated. This will include whatever proportion of passengers need to have bags hand-searched, etc, which doubtless varies by time of day and such like but can be easily determined. The proportion of those who need additional checks has not suddenly changed upwards. What has changed is additional passengers due to additional flights, and seemingly the airport is attempting to process them with the same resources as before.
But it's not as if they didn't know Ryanair were coming, is it ?
A further inappropriate excuse is that proferred by BAA and others that it takes them so long to get security clearance for new personnel. This was being uttered last summer/autumn by various airports, the explanation being that it takes "3 months to get security clearance for them". Well the 3 months are long passed, no noticeable improvement.
If Inverness can't handle it they should have told Ryanair not to come.
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Spot on WHBN but unfortunately the lure of the ££££££'s for the management and owners of the airpoprt is obviously too much and therefore due to the shortsightedness of the management, the people who 'get it in the neck' are the passengers themselves who in turn get frustrated with the staff at the airport and then the Cockpit Team end up struggling to meet slots and it all becomes rush...rush...rush.
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According to the news section of HIAL's website, FlyBE are dedicating a newly-unveiled Q400 named "Spirit of the Highlands" to the INV-LGW route in its honour - looks like G-OINV will be heading elsewhere.
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I understand and agree with what you are saying regarding the squeezing of resources, it might just be me but on the last 3 occasions that I have been through INV security (all within the last 6 weeks) each time someone in front of me has been pulled and had their bag manually searched with either bottles of water or a nail file etc being fished out.
It might just be me being unlucky at INV and getting stuck behind someone who is a bit dim or chancing their arm trying to take liquids through, or the travelling public still don't understand the now not so 'new' rules.
I also agree with what others said earlier, I have only ever saw one screener in use at INV and with several departues clustered together both machines should be in use
I understand and agree with what you are saying regarding the squeezing of resources, it might just be me but on the last 3 occasions that I have been through INV security (all within the last 6 weeks) each time someone in front of me has been pulled and had their bag manually searched with either bottles of water or a nail file etc being fished out.
It might just be me being unlucky at INV and getting stuck behind someone who is a bit dim or chancing their arm trying to take liquids through, or the travelling public still don't understand the now not so 'new' rules.
I also agree with what others said earlier, I have only ever saw one screener in use at INV and with several departues clustered together both machines should be in use
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Cop a load of this
http://www.inverness-courier.co.uk/n...th_Europe.html
Still a year off for some of them but pretty major expansion of their INV base.
http://www.inverness-courier.co.uk/n...th_Europe.html
Still a year off for some of them but pretty major expansion of their INV base.
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Just to let you know, that the EMA-INV route is to stay, load factors have been good, better than expected. However, the winter service maybe reduced.
First time i flew into INV last week, and it was tiny, too many PAX, looked a nice small simple easy to use airport, just too many people are once.
First time i flew into INV last week, and it was tiny, too many PAX, looked a nice small simple easy to use airport, just too many people are once.
from todays paper
DUTCH airline KLM confirmed yesterday it was in talks with Eastern Airways about setting up a new service from Inverness to Schiphol Airport in Amsterdam.
A new Eastern Airways service may also be allowed to operate effectively as a KLM subsidiary, meaning passengers would be able to book tickets direct from Inverness to any of the Dutch airline’s network of 124 worldwide destinations using a single KLM booking reference.
This “interlining” arrangement would allow passengers to check their luggage in at Inverness and not have to repeat the process until they reached their final destination.
News of the proposal to make Eastern the 73rd “interlining partner” with KLM around the world delighted the city’s business community and cheered the local tourism sector as it would also make reaching the Highlands from outside the UK far easier than current arrangements allow. At present passengers travelling from outside the UK have to book a flight to an airport such as London Heathrow and wait to collect their luggage before checking in again to catch a separate flight to Inverness.
The proposed Schiphol link would give Inverness Airport another international hub airport to rely on if the Heathrow service was terminated.
At present most international travel from Inverness must go via Heathrow, but last week bmi, which operates that service, said the link could be threatened due to the Competition Commission allowing the airport operators to charge increased landing fees which could mean bmi dropping regional services for more profitable transatlantic routes.
A spokesman for Highlands and Islands Airports (HIA) said it had been trying to restore Inverness Airport’s link with Schiphol after the end of a previous service on the route, operated by ScotAirways and launched in September 2001, was withdrawn a few months later during the downturn in the aviation industry which followed the Al Qaeda attack on New York’s twin towers.
Before this an Inverness/Schiphol service had been operated by KLM’s British subsidiary but was axed in 1998.
KLM and Eastern said despite talks no firm announcement would be made until any deal had been finalised.
Scott Armstrong, VisitScotland’s area director for the Highlands, confirmed his organisation had been consulted about promoting the new service internationally and welcomed its potential impact on the north of Scotland.
“VisitScotland welcomes any potential development at Inverness Airport which will provide a link between Inverness and Amsterdam, giving an increase in visitor traffic to the Highlands,” he said. “Dutch visitors are likely to tour the Highlands when they visit, research shows they are also highly likely to return and recommend Scotland as a holiday destination to their family and friends,” he added.
However there was a note of caution from Casia Zajac, director of Inverness Chamber of Commerce, who was keen steps were taken to minimise the risk of failure of another international service from Inverness following the end of the service to Stockholm just two months after its launch in 2004.
“Having international links is very important for business but we have to make sure there is a concerted effort from the public and private sectors to promote and support this service and that strong marketing and business links are in place to make sure it is sustainable,” she said.
A new Eastern Airways service may also be allowed to operate effectively as a KLM subsidiary, meaning passengers would be able to book tickets direct from Inverness to any of the Dutch airline’s network of 124 worldwide destinations using a single KLM booking reference.
This “interlining” arrangement would allow passengers to check their luggage in at Inverness and not have to repeat the process until they reached their final destination.
News of the proposal to make Eastern the 73rd “interlining partner” with KLM around the world delighted the city’s business community and cheered the local tourism sector as it would also make reaching the Highlands from outside the UK far easier than current arrangements allow. At present passengers travelling from outside the UK have to book a flight to an airport such as London Heathrow and wait to collect their luggage before checking in again to catch a separate flight to Inverness.
The proposed Schiphol link would give Inverness Airport another international hub airport to rely on if the Heathrow service was terminated.
At present most international travel from Inverness must go via Heathrow, but last week bmi, which operates that service, said the link could be threatened due to the Competition Commission allowing the airport operators to charge increased landing fees which could mean bmi dropping regional services for more profitable transatlantic routes.
A spokesman for Highlands and Islands Airports (HIA) said it had been trying to restore Inverness Airport’s link with Schiphol after the end of a previous service on the route, operated by ScotAirways and launched in September 2001, was withdrawn a few months later during the downturn in the aviation industry which followed the Al Qaeda attack on New York’s twin towers.
Before this an Inverness/Schiphol service had been operated by KLM’s British subsidiary but was axed in 1998.
KLM and Eastern said despite talks no firm announcement would be made until any deal had been finalised.
Scott Armstrong, VisitScotland’s area director for the Highlands, confirmed his organisation had been consulted about promoting the new service internationally and welcomed its potential impact on the north of Scotland.
“VisitScotland welcomes any potential development at Inverness Airport which will provide a link between Inverness and Amsterdam, giving an increase in visitor traffic to the Highlands,” he said. “Dutch visitors are likely to tour the Highlands when they visit, research shows they are also highly likely to return and recommend Scotland as a holiday destination to their family and friends,” he added.
However there was a note of caution from Casia Zajac, director of Inverness Chamber of Commerce, who was keen steps were taken to minimise the risk of failure of another international service from Inverness following the end of the service to Stockholm just two months after its launch in 2004.
“Having international links is very important for business but we have to make sure there is a concerted effort from the public and private sectors to promote and support this service and that strong marketing and business links are in place to make sure it is sustainable,” she said.
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As BE have had several puntuality probs on the LGW rotations, I understood that they were considering INV to AMS and CDG to reconfirm their commitment to H + I........maybe something in the next summer schedule?
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Thomson hols has added a second destination from Inverness which is Reus/Salou, alongside with PMI. Both are to be operated by AEA.
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bmi have decided to terminate the service wef 29/3/07 - "lack of demand".
Invernessians are up in arms, esp the business community, calling the decision "a disgrace" & a "slap in the face".
Invernessians are up in arms, esp the business community, calling the decision "a disgrace" & a "slap in the face".
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Nope not a HWY one, probably G-OJSA, looking like the twin sister of G-JURA which is in fine fettle and serving the Western Isles. The other ones are likely to have been G-CCPW and G-JXTA. Google them for more info.
As I have previously posted in another forum they are all third party a/c in for storage/maintenance or a combination of both.
Incidently JURA is due to have a makeover soon and will come out of the shed in the HWY green/black and white scheme.
Cheers.
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As I have previously posted in another forum they are all third party a/c in for storage/maintenance or a combination of both.
Incidently JURA is due to have a makeover soon and will come out of the shed in the HWY green/black and white scheme.
Cheers.
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HIAL - General News....
Not sure where to put this so feel free to move Mr Mod. From the BBC this morning:
Airports' record-breaking figures
Passenger numbers at Inverness are at a record high
The number of people using airports in the Highlands and Highlands is breaking all records.
In the past 12 months a total of 1,270,023 travellers used the airports, which is an increase of 3%.
New figures reveal that the busiest airport was Inverness with 703,371 passengers using the airport.
However, Wick has reported a fall in the number of travellers passing through and is down from 32,691 to 26,428, a drop of 19.2%.
The Dundee site, which transferred to operators Highlands and Islands Airports Ltd (HIAL) in December 2007, recorded growth of almost 22%. It had a further 64,639 passengers in the past year.
Inglis Lyon, managing director of HIAL said: "The vital role played by air transport in our region and the commitment of airlines to enhancing services have seen passenger demand increase and our airports handle record volumes of traffic in the past year.
"Increases to frequency and capacity on routes operated by Loganair have been a significant contributory factor to the growth achieved this year, helping to make the region's remotest locations more accessible.
"At Inverness, the withdrawal of the Liverpool and Heathrow services slowed growth for the year".
'Strong performance'
He said new Flybe scheduled services this spring, and new holiday flights to Spain and Jersey this summer, would see the airport develop new traffic over the next 12 months.
Meanwhile, at Dundee, Loganair will launch Belfast and Birmingham services later this month and a new Sumburgh - Bergen service in June.
"All in all, it has been a year of strong performance across our airports and we look forward to achieving further developments with our airline partners this year," Mr Lyon.
Sumburgh Airport on Shetland saw 13.3% increase in passengers, from 145,055 to 164,390 in 2007/8. Highlands and Islands Airports Limited manages and operates 10 airports in the north and west of Scotland. The airports range from the region's largest airports at Inverness, Kirkwall, Stornoway and Sumburgh to those at Barra, Benbecula, Campbeltown, Islay, Tiree and Wick.
Passenger numbers at Inverness are at a record highThe number of people using airports in the Highlands and Highlands is breaking all records.
In the past 12 months a total of 1,270,023 travellers used the airports, which is an increase of 3%.
New figures reveal that the busiest airport was Inverness with 703,371 passengers using the airport.
However, Wick has reported a fall in the number of travellers passing through and is down from 32,691 to 26,428, a drop of 19.2%.
The Dundee site, which transferred to operators Highlands and Islands Airports Ltd (HIAL) in December 2007, recorded growth of almost 22%. It had a further 64,639 passengers in the past year.
Inglis Lyon, managing director of HIAL said: "The vital role played by air transport in our region and the commitment of airlines to enhancing services have seen passenger demand increase and our airports handle record volumes of traffic in the past year.
"Increases to frequency and capacity on routes operated by Loganair have been a significant contributory factor to the growth achieved this year, helping to make the region's remotest locations more accessible.
"At Inverness, the withdrawal of the Liverpool and Heathrow services slowed growth for the year".
'Strong performance'
He said new Flybe scheduled services this spring, and new holiday flights to Spain and Jersey this summer, would see the airport develop new traffic over the next 12 months.
Meanwhile, at Dundee, Loganair will launch Belfast and Birmingham services later this month and a new Sumburgh - Bergen service in June.
"All in all, it has been a year of strong performance across our airports and we look forward to achieving further developments with our airline partners this year," Mr Lyon.
Sumburgh Airport on Shetland saw 13.3% increase in passengers, from 145,055 to 164,390 in 2007/8. Highlands and Islands Airports Limited manages and operates 10 airports in the north and west of Scotland. The airports range from the region's largest airports at Inverness, Kirkwall, Stornoway and Sumburgh to those at Barra, Benbecula, Campbeltown, Islay, Tiree and Wick.