BA Cityflyer

[towser]

BAladdy, unless it's a wet lease the answer is no as we haven't got the crew to cover it and as far as I'm aware it's not needed.

[32SQDN]

Hearing rumours that quite a number of experienced pilots are planning to leave Cityflyer. Does the company have plans to replace these aircrew if these pilots move on?

[EK77WNCL]

I'm sure they shouldn't have a problem finding more pilots if some are to leave. Flybe has some on offer I think

[Deano777]

EK77WNCL what do you mean Flybe have some on offer? BA Cityflier is not a step upwards. Flybe are not "offering" anything or "offering" anybody. I can't see many leaving Flybe to go and live in London for slightly worse money. If our jets are to go (which there is no indication that they are) then you might see some transfer of crews. At the moment we are short of Embraer pilots so there isn't a surplus with nowhere to go. Any pilots moving off the jet fleet at the moment are going to the Middle East or BA mainline etc, but not Cityflier.

[JBs747]

I'd imagine the job security and faster track into BA may be appealing to some... Flybe hasn't exactly been a smooth ride

[emb-145]

As someone who has worked at both I can assure you BA CityFlyer is far better than Flybe. Certainly a step up in my view

[Deano777]

Yes emb-145 but the point is that it's not always about the company is it. Who would leave Flybe to join cityflier when you get paid slightly less, you have to commute to LCY and on the whole the benefits of working there are not significantly more than what Flybe offers. So to my mind something would have to attract me to them rather than another big player, such as quick Ejet command, losing your job at Flybe, disgruntled in your job at Flybe etc etc. It wouldn't be the natural career progression of alot of pilots at Flybe unless there are underlying reasons to leave.

[emb-145]

Deano777

Quick ejet command - tick
Losing your job - tick
disgruntled at Flybe - where do I start?

[LGWAlan]

Serious question - what's the likelihood of a 190 getting off LCY with a full load of pax AND bags on a hot day in August for a 3h40 sector?

[VickersVicount]

they were never planned to take a full load and there will be a weight restriction

[LGWAlan]

Thx VV if not commercially sensitive do you know what they have been limited to?

[VickersVicount]

...no nothing more except they'll pre plan to be limited both out and inbound. Presumably not a huge amount or it will be hardly worth their while. Expect fares to be disproportionately higher.

[EMB-145LR]

I fly the E175 in the US and we regularly do 1,800+ mile sectors of over five hours. Granted we are launching off a runway nearly twice as long as City, but I would have though that the E170 would be capable of both of these new Greek routes without too many limitations?

[Jet Set Willie]

E190 for both Greek routes showing!!

[LGWAlan]

have already seen fares of over £400 return on both routes.....

they will only go one way - and thats up!

[BAladdy]

DUS

Just noticed that BACF's LCY-DUS is showing on BA.com as once again being operated by a T3 S2000 from 30th March to 5th September. Does anyone know if this is correct?. I thought the DUS route was doing quite well.

[BAladdy]

Notice on jethro's fleet listings that T3 S2000 G-CDKA is to be leased to BACF.

Does anyone know if the aircraft is replacing either G-CDEB or G-CERZ already leased to BACF or is this lease in addition to these aircraft. If in addition what route will the aircraft be used to operate.

[jijpc]

From looking at today's movement on Flightradar it appears CDKA might be replacing one of the other S2000s.
CDKA operated LCY-DUS rotations today, CDEB operated the first IOM-LCY rotation but was then replaced by CERZ which had positioned DUS-IOM which resulted in both CDEB and CERZ being at Ronaldsway this morning.

CDKA may of course just be a lease for maintenance cover but I don't know if that is the case.

Hope the above helps.

[BAladdy]

BACF's winter seasonal GVA service will become year round from early september and will operate up to 3 x daily

06th September to 30th October

BA2281 LCY 08:15 GVA 10:50 E70 x7
BA2285 LCY 14:25 GVA 17:00 E70 x6
BA2287 LCY 18:50 GVA 21:25 E70 x6

BA2280 GVA 07:10 LCY 07:45 E70 x7
BA2284 GVA 12:55 LCY 13:30 E70 x6
BA2286 GVA 17:45 LCY 18:20 E70 x6

31st October to 11th December


BA2281 LCY 08:15 GVA 10:50 E70 x67
BA2285 LCY 14:25 GVA 17:00 E70 x6
BA2287 LCY 18:50 GVA 21:25 E70 x6

BA2280 GVA 07:10 LCY 07:45 E70 x7
BA2284 GVA 12:55 LCY 13:30 E70 x67
BA2286 GVA 17:45 LCY 18:20 E70 x6

From 12th December

BA2281 LCY 07:10 GVA 09:45 E90 6
BA2281 LCY 08:15 GVA 10:50 E70 x67
BA2283 LCY 12:40 GVA 15:15 E90 7
BA2285 LCY 14:25 GVA 17:00 E70 x67
BA2285 LCY 17:20 GVA 19:55 E90 7
BA2287 LCY 18:50 GVA 21:25 E70 x6

BA2280 GVA 07:10 LCY 07:45 E70 x7
BA2282 GVA 10:25 LCY 11:00 E90 6
BA2284 GVA 12:55 LCY 13:30 E70 x67
BA2284 GVA 16:00 LCY 16:35 E90 7
BA2286 GVA 17:45 LCY 18:20 E70 x67
BA2286 GVA 20:40 LCY 21:15 E90 7

[Buster the Bear]

Flew on an 146 to Geneva a few years back, so a route resurrected.