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Old 25th Apr 2012, 17:55
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The ABZ service is very likely to be the end of CityJet's poor DND service over the past year or so - with so much chopoping and changing of schedule/aircraft type.
The future of the DND service is up to WX. I think the worst thing WX did was end the original contract with CB to operate the DND and EDI service using the D328. Another problem is the timetable for the DND/LCY service has not exactly been put together with the needs of business pax. It really needs a daily late morning service ex LCY and a early afternoon flight ex DND.

Personally I think that we will here from WX in the coming months announcing a new 3 x Daily LCY-ABZ service and that they plan to use a 3rd leased D328 from Suckling on the route. I think WX will be reluctant to go head to head and operate flights at the same time as BACF. They will probably end up operating basing the aircraft in LCY rather than ABZ like BACF and have the aircraft operate LCY-ABZ-LCY-ABZ-LCY-ABZ-LCY .
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Old 25th Apr 2012, 18:22
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I believe BA had a SCOPE clause with BALPA restricting all London based aircraft of ~ 100 seats or more having to be flown by Mainline. Hence when CFE was relaunched at LCY, all crews were EDI based. I believe that is no longer the case, can anyone confirm?
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Old 25th Apr 2012, 22:06
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Heres hoping BACF do expand. Its maybe a bit farfetched, but I'd like to see a service to Belfast from London City. Cityjet tried it a few years ago on the Dornier but ticket prices were sky high, something CityFlyer dont seem to be as bad for. Also with BA looking carefully at all its new BMI-inherited slots for domestic routes, and probably wanting to cut them back a bit to make better use of slots, could that leave a gap for new routes from LCY?

I know that London City tends to be a busy place most of the time, but is the place close to capacity at the moment?
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Old 27th Apr 2012, 08:03
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Where is the E70 aircraft for ABZ coming from? There shouldn't be spare aircraft with the current schedule and the new E90 will be used for FRA, GLA and VCE.
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Old 27th Apr 2012, 08:15
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Bacf Lcy Base

Skipness,

The SCOPE agreement is still firmly in place. (Nobody flies >100 seats out of London unless they are Mainline, hence the Embraer 190SR (scope restriction ! ) has 98 seats. The Edi base was required at start up as BACF were flying 110 seat RJ's until a 'deal' could be done with Mainline Balpa.
The Edi base remains as a cost effective supply of crews for Summer charters which historically have been from Scotland and the North.
The Lcy base is now much larger in crew numbers.
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Old 2nd May 2012, 15:37
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LCYCPH

It seems BA will suspend LCYCPH from 26 May.
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Old 7th May 2012, 10:11
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hi

has anyone heard the rumor that BACF might be sold off to Flybe after the olympics or next year sometime?

know its been spoken about a few years agos but just wondered the latest thoughts?

ta
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Old 7th May 2012, 10:16
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Not sure why it would be, its doing exactly as BA want it to do.
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Old 7th May 2012, 10:35
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So Hendra you have made one post in 8 years and you state there is a rumour going around, really? There has been NO rumour about a Flybe takeover for nearly 5 years. As CabinCrewe says BACF is doing exactly what BA wants it to do .
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Old 7th May 2012, 10:49
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marlowe- didnt mean to annoy anyone yup its my 1st post but i heard the rumor floating about the other day and wondered if there was any truth in it and thought folk on this site may know-thats all
im glad BA happy with BACF and guess this is highlighted in the new aircraft enroute
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Old 7th May 2012, 11:12
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Marlowe, I to have heard this roumour the other day in flybe. I personaly cant see us being interested on bacf. Famous last words ofcourse.
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Old 7th May 2012, 11:12
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God I hope not, we're quite happy without BA's interference especially considering what they did to regional airlines last time around
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Old 7th May 2012, 11:22
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set 1013 i know flybe are doing well but after buying finnair and placing orders for some more E jets do you thinking flybe could afford to buy another airline?
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Old 7th May 2012, 11:35
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Nobody is openly talking Flybe in BACF that rumour has just not surfaced, plenty of other stuff but not Flybe! Are you sure this is not just a throwback to the BACON takeover when there was a lot of Bad feeling from the Rashers about going to Flybe? And lots of talk about slot warming until the Olympics etc etc .
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Old 7th May 2012, 14:18
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What would be the rationale given the number of Gold Card holders BA has on the Wharf?
Is it known if BA CityFlyer has ever turned a profit?
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Old 7th May 2012, 14:34
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You also had plenty of Gold card holders in the regions - didn't seem to deter BA management shutting down Manchester, Birmingham, etc., the only difference would be what would they do with the JFK rotations, they couldn't exactly go to FlyBe ? Jack Walker would be turning in his grave, if his little Spacegrand would be flying across the pond.
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Old 7th May 2012, 16:00
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Well the jfk operation has nothing to do with BACF
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Old 7th May 2012, 16:06
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BACF profits are not reported seperately

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Old 7th May 2012, 16:27
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You also had plenty of Gold card holders in the regions - didn't seem to deter BA management shutting down Manchester, Birmingham, etc.
Not quite the same amount of money floating about as Canary Wharf though somehow....

The New York service is operated by BA Mainline so not relevant. If profits are not reported seperately they might be losing millions even after buying all the ERJs and investing in a really decent product, however seeing as prices are usually above LHR levels and well above LGW on competing routes, I would think not.
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Old 7th May 2012, 17:10
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After its creation BA publicly said BACF would be expected to make a profit within its first 2 years. Ive no reason to suggest it wouldnt have.
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