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The ABZ service is very likely to be the end of CityJet's poor DND service over the past year or so - with so much chopoping and changing of schedule/aircraft type.
Personally I think that we will here from WX in the coming months announcing a new 3 x Daily LCY-ABZ service and that they plan to use a 3rd leased D328 from Suckling on the route. I think WX will be reluctant to go head to head and operate flights at the same time as BACF. They will probably end up operating basing the aircraft in LCY rather than ABZ like BACF and have the aircraft operate LCY-ABZ-LCY-ABZ-LCY-ABZ-LCY .
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I believe BA had a SCOPE clause with BALPA restricting all London based aircraft of ~ 100 seats or more having to be flown by Mainline. Hence when CFE was relaunched at LCY, all crews were EDI based. I believe that is no longer the case, can anyone confirm?
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Heres hoping BACF do expand. Its maybe a bit farfetched, but I'd like to see a service to Belfast from London City. Cityjet tried it a few years ago on the Dornier but ticket prices were sky high, something CityFlyer dont seem to be as bad for. Also with BA looking carefully at all its new BMI-inherited slots for domestic routes, and probably wanting to cut them back a bit to make better use of slots, could that leave a gap for new routes from LCY?
I know that London City tends to be a busy place most of the time, but is the place close to capacity at the moment?
I know that London City tends to be a busy place most of the time, but is the place close to capacity at the moment?
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Bacf Lcy Base
Skipness,
The SCOPE agreement is still firmly in place. (Nobody flies >100 seats out of London unless they are Mainline, hence the Embraer 190SR (scope restriction ! ) has 98 seats. The Edi base was required at start up as BACF were flying 110 seat RJ's until a 'deal' could be done with Mainline Balpa.
The Edi base remains as a cost effective supply of crews for Summer charters which historically have been from Scotland and the North.
The Lcy base is now much larger in crew numbers.
The SCOPE agreement is still firmly in place. (Nobody flies >100 seats out of London unless they are Mainline, hence the Embraer 190SR (scope restriction ! ) has 98 seats. The Edi base was required at start up as BACF were flying 110 seat RJ's until a 'deal' could be done with Mainline Balpa.
The Edi base remains as a cost effective supply of crews for Summer charters which historically have been from Scotland and the North.
The Lcy base is now much larger in crew numbers.
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hi
has anyone heard the rumor that BACF might be sold off to Flybe after the olympics or next year sometime?
know its been spoken about a few years agos but just wondered the latest thoughts?
ta
has anyone heard the rumor that BACF might be sold off to Flybe after the olympics or next year sometime?
know its been spoken about a few years agos but just wondered the latest thoughts?
ta
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So Hendra you have made one post in 8 years and you state there is a rumour going around, really? There has been NO rumour about a Flybe takeover for nearly 5 years. As CabinCrewe says BACF is doing exactly what BA wants it to do .
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marlowe- didnt mean to annoy anyone yup its my 1st post but i heard the rumor floating about the other day and wondered if there was any truth in it and thought folk on this site may know-thats all
im glad BA happy with BACF and guess this is highlighted in the new aircraft enroute
im glad BA happy with BACF and guess this is highlighted in the new aircraft enroute
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Nobody is openly talking Flybe in BACF that rumour has just not surfaced, plenty of other stuff but not Flybe! Are you sure this is not just a throwback to the BACON takeover when there was a lot of Bad feeling from the Rashers about going to Flybe? And lots of talk about slot warming until the Olympics etc etc .
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You also had plenty of Gold card holders in the regions - didn't seem to deter BA management shutting down Manchester, Birmingham, etc., the only difference would be what would they do with the JFK rotations, they couldn't exactly go to FlyBe ? Jack Walker would be turning in his grave, if his little Spacegrand would be flying across the pond.
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You also had plenty of Gold card holders in the regions - didn't seem to deter BA management shutting down Manchester, Birmingham, etc.
The New York service is operated by BA Mainline so not relevant. If profits are not reported seperately they might be losing millions even after buying all the ERJs and investing in a really decent product, however seeing as prices are usually above LHR levels and well above LGW on competing routes, I would think not.