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Just got back from a weekend in Edinburgh having used LCY for the first time. Must say I was impressed. No queues, good service, and a nice place to have a bacon sarnie and watch the runway.
Also used public transport to get there (bus to Lewisham and then DLR) and it was 1 hour 15 mins door to door and about £2 on Oyster - making LCY a better prospect than Gatwick for weekend breaks from Bromley for us.
Also used public transport to get there (bus to Lewisham and then DLR) and it was 1 hour 15 mins door to door and about £2 on Oyster - making LCY a better prospect than Gatwick for weekend breaks from Bromley for us.
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As per another thread, LCY seems to be getting its own airline in the guise of "BA City Flyer":
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=255020
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=255020
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Just got back from a weekend in Edinburgh having used LCY for the first time. Must say I was impressed. No queues, good service, and a nice place to have a bacon sarnie and watch the runway.
Also used public transport to get there (bus to Lewisham and then DLR) and it was 1 hour 15 mins door to door and about £2 on Oyster - making LCY a better prospect than Gatwick for weekend breaks from Bromley for us.
Also used public transport to get there (bus to Lewisham and then DLR) and it was 1 hour 15 mins door to door and about £2 on Oyster - making LCY a better prospect than Gatwick for weekend breaks from Bromley for us.
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glad to see people are finding the benefits of LCY. I had to travel through LHR the other day to Vienna (come on LCY where is that Viennna route??) and the 2-hour check in and the queues were awful!!! Still it reminded my why I use LCY when I Can.
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London City Airport reports November 2006 as being the busiest month on record since the Airport opened for business in October 1987. In November 222,787 passengers travelled via London City, a 24% increase compared with the same period last year.
Richard Gooding, Chief Executive of London City Airport believes the growing passenger numbers reinforces the Airport’s new owners’ opinion, that London City Airport has an exciting growth potential: “2006 has been an excellent year for London City Airport, the route network has grown from 26 destinations to 31 with recent route launches to Milan, Madrid, Hamburg, Nuremberg and Groningen. In early November we reached the 2 million passenger milestone in a calendar year for the first time, we are expecting to reach 2.4 million in total by the year end.”
The recent sale demonstrates the true value of our business. The new owners will be looking to drive our development plans forward in order to maximise the potential of the investment.
Richard continues: “Looking ahead we are confident that in 2007 passenger numbers will continue to grow, we are forecasting an additional growth of 10%. In order to grow and maximise the potential of the Airport, our immediate and longer-term plans will be to increase capacity.
Richard Gooding, Chief Executive of London City Airport believes the growing passenger numbers reinforces the Airport’s new owners’ opinion, that London City Airport has an exciting growth potential: “2006 has been an excellent year for London City Airport, the route network has grown from 26 destinations to 31 with recent route launches to Milan, Madrid, Hamburg, Nuremberg and Groningen. In early November we reached the 2 million passenger milestone in a calendar year for the first time, we are expecting to reach 2.4 million in total by the year end.”
The recent sale demonstrates the true value of our business. The new owners will be looking to drive our development plans forward in order to maximise the potential of the investment.
Richard continues: “Looking ahead we are confident that in 2007 passenger numbers will continue to grow, we are forecasting an additional growth of 10%. In order to grow and maximise the potential of the Airport, our immediate and longer-term plans will be to increase capacity.
Yesterday evening, Thursday 7 December 2006, London City Airport was voted the UK’s Best Regional Airport by the readers of Buying Business Travel.
Commenting on this accolade, Charles Buchanan, Business Development Director for London City Airport said: “We are thrilled and honoured to receive such recognition from the business community.
“2006 has been a very good year for the Airport. Passenger numbers have increased by 20% and yesterday was actually our busiest day since the Airport opened in 1987, with 10,530 passengers travelling via the Airport. It has also been a year since the London City Airport Docklands Light Railway (DLR) Extension opened, which put us firmly on the public transport map. Passenger usage of the DLR has exceeded all expectations.”
Commenting on this accolade, Charles Buchanan, Business Development Director for London City Airport said: “We are thrilled and honoured to receive such recognition from the business community.
“2006 has been a very good year for the Airport. Passenger numbers have increased by 20% and yesterday was actually our busiest day since the Airport opened in 1987, with 10,530 passengers travelling via the Airport. It has also been a year since the London City Airport Docklands Light Railway (DLR) Extension opened, which put us firmly on the public transport map. Passenger usage of the DLR has exceeded all expectations.”
Finally, I note that route survey section currently contains
# Barcelona
# Helsinki
# Rome
# Vienna
With Rome about to start by AirOne, I guess that VIE, BCN and HEL are rather safe bets as the first new destinations for BA Cityflyer. If so, Star A* might consider putting their own metal on a VIE service.
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Safety at LCY gate lounges
Not many non-positive comments on LCY here but interested to hear opinions, like what do Health & Safety think .....
As soon as a flight is called at LCY up to 80 or so pax all head for the gate, most of which are down narrow stairs straight to a boarding card check at the foot.
And delay of any sort there, or even just the fact that all the pax head down there together, means queueing the length of the stairs, holding various carry-on items in their hands.
Over time I have seen near-falls there on several occasions. A recent one was a mother, with baby AND bags (including the Pampers - poor soul !) nearly falling down a couple of times as the queue took several minutes to edge downwards.
Then of course some are coming straight from the bar !
Can't the handling agent desk be put at the other end of the gate with a corridor fashioned along the back wall to hold people waiting on the flat ? I know it would cut down on the seats but there are rarely enough of these anyway.
As soon as a flight is called at LCY up to 80 or so pax all head for the gate, most of which are down narrow stairs straight to a boarding card check at the foot.
And delay of any sort there, or even just the fact that all the pax head down there together, means queueing the length of the stairs, holding various carry-on items in their hands.
Over time I have seen near-falls there on several occasions. A recent one was a mother, with baby AND bags (including the Pampers - poor soul !) nearly falling down a couple of times as the queue took several minutes to edge downwards.
Then of course some are coming straight from the bar !
Can't the handling agent desk be put at the other end of the gate with a corridor fashioned along the back wall to hold people waiting on the flat ? I know it would cut down on the seats but there are rarely enough of these anyway.
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WHBM, as you said there is very little seating as it is at present and whilst a holding line for pax in the gate itself may alleviate the problem of waiting on the stairwell, it would cut down on the precious little standing room the gates offer.
I only deal with F50's and J41's but even a F50 booked in the high 40's quickly fills the available space to the point where it's an effort to go from the desk to the exit door.
As you know, stands 9 and 10 share one gate and that really is 'cosy'
I feel the airport really has outgrown itself now and I look forward to any expansion starting asap.
I only deal with F50's and J41's but even a F50 booked in the high 40's quickly fills the available space to the point where it's an effort to go from the desk to the exit door.
As you know, stands 9 and 10 share one gate and that really is 'cosy'
I feel the airport really has outgrown itself now and I look forward to any expansion starting asap.
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During the fog yesterday (20/12) morning there was the usual holding at ALKIN and possibly further out, but was most surprised that a KLM F50 was actually holding overhead the field. It kept on making me think someone had actually got in. Is this a new procedure ? Was ALKIN full ?
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Alkin is rarely used for a hold - unless the aircraft are close in. This is because it blocks the 28 approach, and any traffic inbound form the north via LAM.
Some people like to hold aircraft at the LCY NDB. usually at 2000ft. Again, depends on the situation as it blocks departures. There are many ways to do it depending on the may variables in the equation! (ie if the wx was close to accpetable limits, then holding close is better so you can dive them in before it detiorates again - the outer holds are miles away. Also, maybe the TC South East Low secotr was becoming overloaded, and the friendly Thames controller brough them into the Thames airspace to help the TMA out.
ALKIN only has 3000ft and 4000ft anyway - so aircraft are held further back at SPEAR or DET or even as far out as BONDY.
Some people like to hold aircraft at the LCY NDB. usually at 2000ft. Again, depends on the situation as it blocks departures. There are many ways to do it depending on the may variables in the equation! (ie if the wx was close to accpetable limits, then holding close is better so you can dive them in before it detiorates again - the outer holds are miles away. Also, maybe the TC South East Low secotr was becoming overloaded, and the friendly Thames controller brough them into the Thames airspace to help the TMA out.
ALKIN only has 3000ft and 4000ft anyway - so aircraft are held further back at SPEAR or DET or even as far out as BONDY.
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I would love to see BA offer more services to LCY on routes with large o&d numbers. Although they will ultimately be taking passengers from LHR routes, they could reduce flights to LHR and use those slots on new Long haul routes. A lot of pax, especially business pax would prefer to use LCY when flying to London. It would keep pax loyal to BA, as they can use LCY when flying to London, and LHR when flying everywhere else!!!!!!
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For the last week in November and the first two weeks in December, LCY has been the 8th highest airport in the UK for weekly aircraft movements, beating Luton and Glasgow in the process. Not bad for an Airport that only operates 16 hours a day, 6 days a week.
Weekday movement figures are now in the 340 mark.
Weekday movement figures are now in the 340 mark.
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LCY has had a number of the "shorter" UK domestic runs to secondary airports over the years (Cardiff, Swansea, Humberside, Sheffield, Isle of Wight, maybe others) and they never even remotely work out. Given the economic make-up of Exeter's catchment area (very few bankers) and the competition from a high-frequency train the same would seem to apply.
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During the fog yesterday (20/12) morning there was the usual holding at ALKIN and possibly further out, but was most surprised that a KLM F50 was actually holding overhead the field. It kept on making me think someone had actually got in. Is this a new procedure ? Was ALKIN full ?
There were lots of interesting holds being undertaken over the foggy period including left handed holds at Alkin. I heard a klm pilot who was holding at spear ask for the weather at lcy, the controller told him that the rvr was only 600m but he still asked if he could try and approach. the controller replied that the airport was not allowed to under 650m.....this is my kinda pilot